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If The Bradley Effect is Gone, What Happened To It?

<style>#fullpost {display:none;}</style> It was Tom Bradley's 1982 race for governor of California, in which he lost to George Deukmejian in spite of leading in the public polls, that gave the Bradley Effect its name. But now Lance Tarrance, the pollster for Bradley in that race, has an article up at RCP suggesting that the Bradley Effect was merely a case of bad polling -- and that his campaign's internals had shown a dead heat:

The hype surrounding the Bradley Effect has evolved to where some political pundits believe in 2008 that Obama must win in the national pre-election polls by 6-9 points before he can be assured a victory. That’s absurd. There won’t be a 6-9 point Bradley Effect –- there can’t be, since few national polls show a large enough amount of undecided voters and it's in the undecided column where racism supposedly hides.

The other reason I reject the Bradley Effect in 2008 is because there was not a Bradley Effect in the 1982 California Governor’s race, either. Even though Tom Bradley had been slightly ahead in the polls in 1982, due to sampling error, it was statistically too close to call.​
Tarrance's article is a fascinating read into the way that polls are spun and campaign narratives are spread. It is well worth your time to read the entire piece.

With that said, the evidence is pretty strong that the Bradley Effect in fact used to exist in the 1980s and probably through some point in the 1990s. In this Pew Research article you will find several examples of it, spanning the window from Harold Washington in 1983 to Carol Moseley Braun in 1992.

The evidence is perhaps equally strong, however, that the Bradley Effect does not exist any longer. As can be seen in the Hopkins paper for Harvard University that I have referenced many times, at some point during the mid 1990s the Bradley Effect seems to be disappeared.

(A brief aside: This is not to suggest that there was no relationship between race an errors in polling during the Democratic primaries. There is clear evidence that Barack Obama overperformed his polls in states with a large number of African-American voters, a.k.a a Reverse Bradley Effect. There is not any statistically compelling evidence however that Obama routinely underperformed his polls in states with a large number of white voters).

If the Bradley Effect has disappeared or at least dissipated, it is worth thinking about why. I can think of several plausible answers.

1. As Hopkins suggests, racial hot-button issues like crime, welfare and affirmative action are largely off the table today.

2. It may be generational. Expressions of racism are strongly correlated with age, and is much more common among pre-Boomer adults. However, a smaller and smaller fraction of the electorate each year came of age in the segregation era. The Pew study that I linked to above reports that 92 percent of Amerians are now comfortable voting for an African-American for President. In 1982, when Bradley's race occurred, that number was more like 75 percent. (Although the Bradley Effect isn't about racism per se -- it is about people misleading pollsters because of social desirability bias -- racism is nevertheless one of its prerequisites).

3. Racism also has a strong inverse correlation with education, and the country is much more educated than it used to be. In 1980, 55 percent of the electorate had attended at least some college. By 2004, that number had increased to 74 percent. Most colleges are racially diverse, at least to a degree, and so the experience of interacting with African-American students as friends and classmates may be a significant deterrent to racism.

4. There may be some relationship to the revival of the religious right in the 1990s. For members of the religious right, there are now ample and automatic reasons to vote against any liberal candidate, a.k.a. their positions on issues like abortion. In addition, the religious right has made voting along cultural grounds (as opposed to policy grounds) more socially acceptable in general. So long as the voter believes he or she can articulate a "valid" reason for voting against an African-American candidate, there is little reason to deceive a pollster about one's intention.

5. Relatedly, there may also now be less overlap between those sorts of voters who are more likely to harbor racist sentiments and those who are more likely to vote for a Democrat. One test of this hypothesis would be to see whether black Republican candidates still suffer from a Bradley Effect, even if black Democrats largely do not.

6. Polling techniques may have improved. For instance, "pushing" leaners toward one or another candidate with an appropriate follow-up question may be a good way to tease out the preferences of voters who are shy to reveal that they won't support a black candidate.

7. People's attitudes toward polls may have changed. Our society has become more and more impersonal, and so when a pollster calls, the respondent may no longer regard the interviewer as a "neighbor" to whom he or she must seem socially desirable. This would be taken to the logical extreme by IVR polling technologies (a.k.a. "robopolls") in which there is no interaction with a human at all.

8. African-American candidates may have gotten smarter about how they market themselves to white voters.
 

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Another article which discusses the issue of the disappearing bradley effect:

http://election.princeton.edu/2008/09/27/the-disappearing-bradley-effect/

Polls did show a significant Bradley/Wilder effect through the early 1990s, which includes the period when Bradley and Wilder were running for office. However, Hopkins notes that the effect then went away in races from 1996 onward. To quote the study: “Before 1996, the median gap for black candidates was 3.1 percentage points, while for subsequent years it was -0.3 percentage points.”
 

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If the right wingers can't even count on the Bradley Effect, what hope do they have?
 

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If the right wingers can't even count on the Bradley Effect, what hope do they have?

You obviously were not paying attention during the Obama Clinton primaries. :ohno:

Something about the Clinton-Obama tussle - with its overtones of race and gender - has exposed flaws in the science of pre-election polling. The causes are being hotly debated, but the leading contenders are the models used to predict who is likely to get out and vote. "They have no scientific basis," argues Jon Krosnick, a survey methodologist at Stanford University in California.

This year's New Hampshire Democratic primary was the biggest embarrassment for US pollsters since the presidential election of 1948 - when Democrat Harry Truman defied predictions to defeat Republican Thomas Dewey. Obama led Clinton by an average of 8.3 percentage points in polls taken over the three days before the primary on 8 January. Yet Clinton won by 2.6 points. :missingte

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...ers-are-flummoxed-over-clinton-and-obama.html
 

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You obviously were not paying attention during the Obama Clinton primaries. :ohno:

Something about the Clinton-Obama tussle - with its overtones of race and gender - has exposed flaws in the science of pre-election polling. The causes are being hotly debated, but the leading contenders are the models used to predict who is likely to get out and vote. "They have no scientific basis," argues Jon Krosnick, a survey methodologist at Stanford University in California.

This year's New Hampshire Democratic primary was the biggest embarrassment for US pollsters since the presidential election of 1948 - when Democrat Harry Truman defied predictions to defeat Republican Thomas Dewey. Obama led Clinton by an average of 8.3 percentage points in polls taken over the three days before the primary on 8 January. Yet Clinton won by 2.6 points. :missingte

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...ers-are-flummoxed-over-clinton-and-obama.html


Look at virginia. Obama was leading by about 17 in the polls leading up to the primary, but ended up winning by 28, that was an 11 point swing in his favor.

Look at wisconsin. Obama was leading by about 4 in the polls leading up to the primary, but ended up winning by 17, that was an 13 point swing in his favor.

Do you honestly think that these experts didn't take into account the primaries? The fact is that primary season changes from primary to primary, so the polling data is usually alot more erratic.

Don't worry just keep holding out hope that McCain is still in the game.
 

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I don't have to hope...McCain is in the game.

Just look at the polls. Adjust for the overpolling of Dems and its an even race.

It's a dead heat...now add the Bradley effect and guess who's ahead?

I'm not making this up...look at the polling data.

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Tools for Handling Loss




Dealing With Denial

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What is denial?

  • Being unwilling to face problems on either a conscious or subconscious level.<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O:p> </O:p>​
  • Acting as if there are no problems to face.<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A defensive response; protection from [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]pain[/COLOR][/COLOR], hurt, or suffering​
  • A mask to hide feelings or emotions behind.<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A way to avoid conflict, disagreements, or disapproval from others.<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A way to avoid facing the negative consequences of reality.<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A way of retaining our sanity when experiencing unbearable pain.<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A way to repress the truth of our loss, a way to continue to function in a ``normally.''<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A pattern of life for individuals who are compulsively driven to ``look good.''<O:p> </O:p>​
  • A way to avoid the risk of change as a result of problems or loss.<O:p> </O:p>​
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How does denial look to others?<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>

Persons in denial:
  • Appear to be irrational to those who know the problems and losses they have suffered.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be calm and relaxed to those who do not know the problems and losses they have suffered.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Are a cause of frustration to those who want them to confront the truth of the problem or loss honestly.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be unemotional, apathetic, or indifferent in the face of loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Are considered pathetic and pitiable by those who have tried to confront them with the denial and have failed.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be caught up in magical thinking about the loss involved.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be excessively involved in fantasy thinking about the loss or problem.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be childlike, very dependent on others to nurture them and reassure them that everything will be all right.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be running away from the truth concerning their problems or loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Appear to be avoiding or rejecting those who are intent on confronting them with their problems.
What are the negative consequences of unresolved denial?<O:p> </O:p>

Unresolved denial can result in:
  • Delusional thinking, leading to a feeling that everything is OK, even when it is not.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Greater conflict between the deniers and the non-deniers.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Fantasy or magical thinking, allowing distorted thinking to become a habit.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Poor problem-solving and decision-making abilities for the denier.<O:p> </O:p>
  • The denier totally avoiding or withdrawing from everyone who knows of the loss or problem.<O:p> </O:p>
  • The denier becoming a social recluse.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Others avoiding the denier to avoid upsetting him with their concern, questions, or reassurance.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Frustration for those who want to help the denier.<O:p> </O:p>
  • A maladaptive pattern of coping with the loss or problem for the denier.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Everyone involved in the life of the denier joining the denial; the problem is not confronted honestly by those who can do something about it.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Resentment by the denier of those who are confronting him about the problems or loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Prolonging the time before the denier must confront the pain, hurt, and suffering involved in the loss or problem.<O:p> </O:p>
  • The denier projecting the problem or the results of the loss onto others.<O:p> </O:p>
  • The denier's use of rationalization to explain away the problem or loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Exacerbation of the very problems being denied.<O:p> </O:p>
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How can we confront denial in ourselves?<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>

We can confront denial by:<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>
  • Asking ourselves honestly why we are in denial.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Asking ourselves what are the benefits to be gained by our denial.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Asking ourselves what is too painful to face.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing when we are caught up in magical or fantasy thinking about our problem or loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing the negative consequences that result from our denial behavior.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Not allowing ourselves to fall back into a safe emotional zone, but to keep our emotional response open and honest.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing when we are hiding behind a ``nice'' mask when discussing our loss or problems. <O:p></O:p>
  • Allowing ourselves to express negative or embarrassing emotions as we confront our problems (e.g., crying, feeling lost, feeling confused, or feeling scared).<O:p> </O:p>
  • Allowing ourselves to admit to being out of control.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Trusting others to help us with our problem.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Admitting our vulnerability and our need for assistance.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Risking the loss of acceptance or approval by those who may be unable to handle our open, honest admission of our problem.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing the negative behavior scripts that impede our ability to deal openly with problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing that it is human to have problems and to experience loss; it is not a sign of our lack of value or worth.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Refuting the irrational beliefs that block our acceptance of the loss or problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Asking others to not allow us to deny or avoid the truth about our loss or problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognizing that denial is a natural stage in the loss/grief response.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Maintaining our sense of perspective, allowing ourselves to go through the problems as a growth experience.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Believing that out of failure comes success; accepting the failure as a chance for personal growth.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Accepting the help of others in the aftermath of our loss.<O:p> </O:p>
How can we cope with denial in others?<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>

In coping with denial in others we need to:<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>
  • Have a great deal of patience in order to allow them the time it takes to finally confront their loss or problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Be accepting of the denial as a psychological defense that is a vehicle for them to retain their sanity.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Be careful in confronting them, so that they don't run away or withdraw from reality even more.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Be ready for their resistance in dealing with the truth about their loss and problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Freely offer them our support and understanding.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Accept them as they are, waiting to deal with the loss or problem until they are ready.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Be ready with a rational perspective to help them refute their current irrational beliefs.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Resist solving their problems for them; resist the desire to continue sheltering or protecting them from their loss or problems.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Continue to let them know that there is support for them in dealing with the loss or problems. Let them face the existence of the loss or problem gently but continuously.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Provide them with subtle means to face the problem by giving them magazine or newspaper articles, pamphlets, or books on the subject; suggesting TV, and radio programs on the subject, or proposing professional help.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Recognize that if they are locked into a chronic state of denial, which is debilitating to their mental [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]health[/COLOR][/COLOR], that a denial intervention may be necessary.<O:p> </O:p>
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A denial intervention model<O:p> </O:p><O:p></O:p>

If a person close to you is using a chronic behavior pattern of denial injurious to his [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]mental [COLOR=blue! important]health[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], then the following intervention model may be useful in helping him break through this debilitating denial.<O:p> </O:p>
Step 1. Prepare a written script of incidents characteristic of the target person's denial pattern of behavior. For each incident list the following:
  • The incidents where denial was used.<O:p> </O:p>
  • When it occurred.<O:p> </O:p>
  • What loss or problem was involved.<O:p> </O:p>
  • What the negative consequences of the denial were.<O:p> </O:p>
  • What could have happened if denial had not been used to resolve the problem or loss.<O:p> </O:p>
  • Why and how this incident of denial has affected you personally.<O:p> </O:p>
Step 2. Seek out other people who are closely related to the target person. Ask these people to prepare a written script, as in Step 1, for incidents of denial with which they know the target person has been involved. <O:p> </O:p>​
Step 3. Seek out the assistance of a [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]counselor[/COLOR][/COLOR] or mental [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]health [COLOR=blue! important]professional[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], if you believe the aftermath of a denial intervention with the target person may result in that person needing to get ongoing help. Invite this profes­sional person to the intervention rehearsal (Step 4). <O:p> </O:p>
Step 4. Meet with everyone who has written a script of denial incidents. Rehearse how they will be presented to the target person. Choose a moderator for the intervention. <O:p> </O:p>
Step 5. Set up a date, time, and place for the denial intervention session. Make sure that all of the variables of location, timing, and schedule are conducive to helping the target person relax and listen to what is being shared. (Have the session at a neutral site; not at a [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]psychiatric[/COLOR][/COLOR] hospital or chemical dependency [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]treatment [COLOR=blue! important]center[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]). <O:p> </O:p>
Step 6. Invite the target person to meet at the scheduled date, time, and place of the planned intervention. Do not reveal the agenda of the meeting or the participants. This is important as he may resist coming to such a meeting if he suspects he will be confronted with his denial. <O:p> </O:p>
Step 7. Bring the target person to the meeting, and introduce the intent of the meeting to him. It is to share the love and concern of his family and friends who are in attendance. The family and friends are there because they are concerned about the target person's health and happiness and about how the denial pattern is affecting their relationship. <O:p> </O:p>
Step 8. A moderator (selected by the group in Step 4) then introduces each intervenor, one at a time. The intervenors use the written scripts to explain all of the denial incidents. Each speaker continuously reassures the target person that he is loved. They share their concern about his welfare if he continues to use the denial pattern. <O:p> </O:p>
Step 9. Once all of the intervenors have presented their scripts, the target person is faced with verbal and written evidence of the denial pattern. The moderator then shares with the target person an outline of steps to be taken to assist the person in overcoming the denial pattern. (These steps are decided by all of the intervenors at the meeting in Step 4.) <O:p> </O:p>
Step 10. The target person may then be introduced to the counselor or mental health professional, if present, who shares a clinical perspective on the denial pattern and can explain what treatment is available. <O:p> </O:p>
Step 11. The intervenors then let the target person react to all that has been presented. The group ``problem solves'' with the target person about the next steps in breaking the denial pattern. <O:p> </O:p>
The eleven steps in the denial intervention are repeated as often as needed to keep the target person from reverting to the old pattern of denial.

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How come Dems won't talk about overpolling ratio's?

Denial? :lol:
 

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They're planting the seeds for the RNC's massive vote supression effort that they hope will steal the election. Obama votes will disappear by the millions as a result of voter purging along with voter caging for mass challenges. The RNC aplogists will use this so-called Bradley effect as an explanation in an attempt to cover up the real cause for the shift in the results.
 

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They're planting the seeds for the RNC's massive vote supression effort that they hope will steal the election. Obama votes will disappear by the millions as a result of voter purging along with voter caging for mass challenges. The RNC aplogists will use this so-called Bradley effect as an explanation in an attempt to cover up the real cause for the shift in the results.

hell the repubs even bragged about it in 2004.
 

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They're planting the seeds for the RNC's massive vote supression effort that they hope will steal the election. Obama votes will disappear by the millions as a result of voter purging along with voter caging for mass challenges. The RNC aplogists will use this so-called Bradley effect as an explanation in an attempt to cover up the real cause for the shift in the results.

Shorty uses wild stories and allegations without any evidence...just like the 9/11 truther moonbats here.

Meanwhile...here are some facts that show shorty is full of crap ...again. %^_

ACORN: The Fraud Continues
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This is one of those news stories you can hardly believe. In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations. The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent. The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter. Here is CNN's report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRhrT22BsIY

News reports have suggested that Indiana, traditionally a Republican state, may be in play. We're beginning to understand why.
 

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Shorty uses wild stories and allegations without any evidence...just like the 9/11 truther moonbats here.

Meanwhile...here are some facts that show shorty is full of crap ...again. %^_

ACORN: The Fraud Continues
POWERLINE
This is one of those news stories you can hardly believe. In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations. The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent. The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter. Here is CNN's report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRhrT22BsIY

News reports have suggested that Indiana, traditionally a Republican state, may be in play. We're beginning to understand why.

acorn doesn't have that much power. keep your pants on mj. your boy mccain has also dealt with acorn.
 

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They're planting the seeds for the RNC's massive vote supression effort that they hope will steal the election. Obama votes will disappear by the millions as a result of voter purging along with voter caging for mass challenges. The RNC aplogists will use this so-called Bradley effect as an explanation in an attempt to cover up the real cause for the shift in the results.


Already rationalizing why Obama will lose. What a bunch of shit this is. Dems always whining about something.
 

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acorn doesn't have that much power. keep your pants on mj. your boy mccain has also dealt with acorn.

Yeah right...CNN is making fake reports to help the Republicans....right :103631605
 

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Yeah right...CNN is making fake reports to help the Republicans....right :103631605

you didnt see the video of him at the acorn rally? and dont go crying like a baby because you leave out the michigan and ohio voter caging methods of using foreclosed homes as a method to keep people from voting by the repubs.

your boy mccain was one of acorn's biggest supporters.

ill still maintain acorn isnt a bad organization. some of the members go to far and need to be held accountable, but the mission of acorn isn't unlawful or anything.

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ACORN was caught red handed covering up its own million dollar embezzlement within its ranks.

If thats not illegal activity ...what is?

Is that illegal activity..yes or no?

Simple question.
 

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i havent seen an article on the embezzlement. if you got a site or an article, link me.

why was mccain at the acorn rally and why did he throw all of us his support behind this illegal company then?
 

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i havent seen an article on the embezzlement. if you got a site or an article, link me.

why was mccain at the acorn rally and why did he throw all of us his support behind this illegal company then?

Looks like the folks inside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are finally showing how upset they are that their chief tried to hide the fact that his brother embezzled a million dollars from the organization.
The Pittsburgh Tribune reports that some members of the board are suing founder Wade Rathke for the cover up attempt.
Board members Marcel Reid and Karen Inman are seeking a court order that also would sever ties between ACORN and founder Wade Rathke, The New York Times reported Tuesday. Although Rathke resigned as chief organizer, he oversees staff and expenditures, the lawsuit contends.
The court action reflects continuing turmoil at ACORN. Rathke resigned after it became public this summer that his brother, Dale Rathke, embezzled $948,607.50.
Rathke tried to hide the fact that his brother stole a cool one mil from the organization’s funds several years ago. Looks like his buddies on the ACORN Board are finally fed up.
 

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Already rationalizing why Obama will lose. What a bunch of shit this is. Dems always whining about something.


I'm not a Dem, but give me your prediction for how many voters will be challenged at the polls (keep in mind only Republican operatives do this). In addition, what is your prediction for how many voters will have to vote via provisional ballot?

Those numbers will be available eventually in the postmordem of the election. If it helps you to predict, in 2004 there were over 3 million that had to vote via provisional ballot. Of those 3 million+, over 1 million were tossed and not counted. These are facts and not a "bunch of shit".

Here's an article to give some an idea of what is going on. It was written about 9-10 months ago. I've seen the guy (Kris Kobach) that it's about on Lou Dobbs program before.

http://crooksandliars.com/2007/12/26/kansas-gop-chair-sends-email-boasting-of-voter-caging/

Kansas GOP Chair Sends Email Boasting of Voter Caging
By Bill W. Tuesday Dec 25, 2007 9:38am

Kris Kobach, a former counsel to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft who is currently the chairman of the Kansas GOP, sent out an email on Thur entitled "Kansas Republican Party Year in Review" in which he brags of voter caging. Blue Tide Rising has the goods:

... Kris Kobach, chairman of the Kansas GOP, sent out a self-congratulatory litany of accomplishments. Among them was one particularly eye-catching item:

"To date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!" [...]

Slate.com has the best comprehensive write-up on how the Republican Party employs caging techniques to suppress the votes of the poor, the deployed, and college students. (You know, likely Democratic voters.)

Did we mention it's illegal? And that Kris Kobach is proud to be doing it?

Since Kris Kobach can't expand his own party or force his own Party's members to support his candidates he's shamelessly trying to keep Democrats from voting instead. This is the stratagem of a desperate and shrinking party.

Someone needs to ask Kris Kobach which voters he's caging and how he's doing it. Someone like a newspaper editor or perhaps a Grand Jury. ... (more)

More on Kris Kobach here and here (He apparently suffers from an advanced case of Lou Dobbs disease). Depending on what methods are being used in Kobach's admitted voter caging scheme, it may very well be illegal, but hardly surprising. Voter suppression through caging lists has become a standard part of the Republican playbook to steal elections for some time now. In Sept McClatchy detailed current Republican voter caging efforts underway in Florida and Ohio to "impede Democratic-leaning minorities from voting in 2008," and back in July PBS NOW took a look at the Republican Party's voter caging plan "designed to keep Democrats from voting, allegedly by targeting people based on their race and ethnicity." Watch that video here.
 

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the economy tanking on dubya's watch

sealed the deal

pretty simple folks

plus all the people that are anti-obama as well as anti bush and anti mccain like me know that mccain isn't the right answer to our long term problems either economically

so we voting 3rd party

honestly being a right wing moonbat it some ways i'm rooting for obama

than in 4 years we can straighten out/infest the GOP and start to rebuild
 
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