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EDITORIAL: Obama's America is Canada

Sunday, June 29, 2008

What kind of "change" does Barack Obama want? He seeks to transform America into Canada. Mr. Obama is not proposing "new politics," but is a champion of the well-known, already enacted policies in the Great White North. His proposals are more reflective of Canadian values than American national ideals.
For example, Mr. Obama's economic plan consists of attempting to redress the disparities of wealth in the United States. He also wants to help the middle class, whom he states has been "squeezed" in the last decade. He rails against overpaid CEOs and an economy that is "out of balance." He will therefore impose higher taxes on those who make more than $250,000 per year, he will increase the capital-gains tax, he will cut taxes for the middle class and ensure that low-income seniors pay no tax. In other words, he will make America a more temperate nation — one in which the lows for those who do not succeed on their merits are not so low, and the highs for those who soar, are not so high. Mr. Obama's policies will result in stifling initiative and rendering America less meritocratic. This economic plan will have detrimental long-term effects, as has occurred in Canada. Canada suffers from a large "brain drain": Every year, many of the most talented, dynamic and enterprising individuals flock to America in order to escape the stagnation and limitations imposed on them by their government.

Mr. Obama is also proposing a host of government programs. He is suggesting increased spending for health insurance, homeowners who might default on their mortgage, the nation's infrastructure, and college tuition in exchange for public service, among others. As a result, he will render America less the land of the brave and the home of the free — and more the land of those who depend on the state. In Canada, government intervention and regulation is rife. This has led to large and unaccountable bureaucracies — and crippling taxation. The Fraser Institute conducted a study in 2001 that demonstrated that the total tax bill of the average Canadian family increased by 1,351 percent since 1961. The report revealed that in 2000, for example, the average Canadian family paid 47.5 percent of their income in federal, provincial and municipal direct and hidden taxes: "The tax bill accounted for more of the average Canadian's budget than shelter, food and clothing combined."
Mr. Obama wants the U.S. government to make health care affordable for every American. He says he opposes mandates, but he nonetheless favors universal health care. Canadians have universal health care; their system is inefficient. The wealthiest Canadians travel to the United States for medical care to avoid long waiting periods for tests and operations. In 2005, the Canadian Supreme Court ruled that patients must be allowed the possibility of receiving alternative health care if they are forced to wait so long that they are in fact denied treatment: Hence, a private parallel health care system is now emerging.
Despite Mr. Obama's Christian discourse, his social policies also resemble Canada's liberal policies. He is ardently pro-choice: He even voted against banning partial-birth abortion. Mr. Obama also supports same-sex unions (but not gay marriage, which he says must be decided by each religious denomination). In Canada, both abortion and same-sex marriage are legal. In Quebec, Canada's most liberal province, traditional marriage has been eroded to the point that 65 percent of couples do not marry but simply live together - that is, until it is no longer convenient. Is this the direction America should be heading toward?
Mr. Obama is calling for a multilateral foreign policy and greater respect for international law. He wants to "talk" with America's enemies and he seeks to curtail much of the anti-American sentiment around the world. His suggestions resemble Canadian foreign policy. Canada is a staunch U.S. ally. Canadians are mostly proud of their role as "peacekeepers" in troubled areas. However, Canada is not a superpower. Also, Canadian "peacekeeping" is possible mostly within a larger context in which America bears the brunt of keeping North America safe and free. Canadians can be "doves" because they are protected by American "hawks."

In summary, when pondering Mr. Obama's proposals, voters should examine the Canadian record. Canada is on the whole a gentler, softer and more liberal nation — but there is also less freedom, opportunity, prosperity, competition and dynamism. Canada is well-loved by other nations — but the country has little diplomatic or military clout.
During the 2004 presidential campaign, the Democratic candidate, Sen. John Kerry, was dubbed a "Massachusetts liberal" and was compared to a foreign leader: "He will be an ideal president — of France," mocked his critics. Mr. Kerry lost the election. In a similar manner, Mr. Obama, too, is a great leader — of Canada. But Americans have repeatedly demonstrated that they prefer individualism and freedom rather than the failing Canadian model of collectivism and comfort.

To all Canadian citizens is the above true, false? Just the bit about Canada not BO.
 

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article is bullshit. there's a reason why a record number of americans are heading to canada. its because canada's programs work better and its a better country.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education — these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."
 

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heres a great comment by somebody on a blog about the difference between canada and america.

As a citizen of both the US and Canada by birth, I have the ability to live in either country. Looking past all the differences and similarities between the countries described here, one particular difference defines why I choose to live in Canada: ignorance is widely glorified in the US.Many bloggers here prove my point: "Canada is socialist" really?, "Canadian pay 50% of their income in tax" (wow, that far exceeded the highest marginal rate in my tax return last year), "U.S. has more freedom than Canada" (newsbreak: Canada doesn't share the common-law principles of freedom upon which the U.S. Constitution was based??? "Canada will go bankrupt with its socialist ways" (funny that when Canada is in phenomenal financial shape, has mind-boggling resources and the US dollar is faltering, social security is expected to be bankrupt, the U.S. is running a war it cannot afford, etc.)I have found through experience that many Americans prefer to describe things in "black or white" terms. Someone or something is either "liberal" or "conservative", "good" or "evil", "Christian" or "atheist", government is "bad" rather than "good", taxes are either "low" or "high", you either "love" freedom or you "don't". If something is not purely "capitalistic" it can only be described as "socialist".What an overly simplistic world view. Anyone with a basic high-school education should understand that few things in life are so clear cut.I am a business owner with a graduate degree, middle-class upbringing, stable family, and a relatively high income. It is a no-brainer to live in Canada with the choice to do so. Why, when the standards of living in the US and Canada are virtually indistinguishable, would someone give up the privelege to live in a county where people are generally open, curious, and tolerant, to live in a country where it seems the majority now are closed-minded, fearful, and actually take pride in their general ignorance of that which matters most.
robertinbc 11/30/07
 

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article is bullshit. there's a reason why a record number of americans are heading to canada. its because canada's programs work better and its a better country.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education — these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."

Thanks for opinion, however I was looking for information from someone who had first hand knowledge.
 

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i do have first had knowledge. ive been in canada.

people leave there doors unlocked. everyone of every race get along. people are way more accepting. people got a government they can actually count on. better financial situation, more resources, more educated citizens. less illiterate, less unemployment.
 

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Loss of freedom has been completely crushed here, right now I have to connect through the board via proxy server as google.ca has therx blocked for Canadians.

Seriously pluses and minuses to both.
Your more free to gamble and play poker online, drugs laws not as strong, but if you want to own a AK47 its probably not your place.

So not really buying the loss of freedoms bit.

No doubt taxes are high but the country does not run a deficit.
Probably the biggest complaints are about healthcare, which seems to be popular in the US as well.
 

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t2050, you agree canada>us then right? more unity among the people to right?
 

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t2050, how would i go about applying for citizenship. i plan to visit british columbia this summer for the 3rd time. everytime i go i fall more in love with the place. ubc has a highly rated masters program i've applied for. i'm interested in pursuing this and i would like to settle out there if everything works out.

i think last i heard theres a line of 900k people and they only accept 250k a year. you'd know more about how that works then me though.
 

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yep there is a huge backlog. Not exactly sure but my friend just married someone from the US, seems to be a long process from what she tells me. Residence must be easy as he has been living here for like 5 years.

BC is probably the best place in Canada to live imo , many of the ppl I grew up with have moved there. Toronto, (Ontario) has been losing its power as places like Alberta are booming from oil money.
 
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Loss of freedom has been completely crushed here, right now I have to connect through the board via proxy server as google.ca has therx blocked for Canadians.

Not for me, and never has been a problem before.

Maybe it's a your PC thing, or a Toronto the Good thing.

Shovel the 20' of snow from around your place & try again. :missingte
 

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Loss of freedom has been completely crushed here, right now I have to connect through the board via proxy server as google.ca has therx blocked for Canadians.

Seriously pluses and minuses to both.
Your more free to gamble and play poker online, drugs laws not as strong, but if you want to own a AK47 its probably not your place.

So not really buying the loss of freedoms bit.

No doubt taxes are high but the country does not run a deficit.
Probably the biggest complaints are about healthcare, which seems to be popular in the US as well.

Thanks for your honest assessment. Many years ago when I lived in Pittsburgh Pa. We used to go to a place in Thorold Ontario called the Lock 7 Motel. No phones in the rooms and 3 channels on TV. Did nothing but relax, drink and watch the ships go through the Welland canal.
 

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lmao...Rule #1..the safest places are where the banks are...Canada is known as the laundromat...its where the Fed Reserve & Narcotics money gets washed...The Spin Machine Baby...everybody whos anybody knows the worse place on the planet to live is an American City...this will become more obvious once the Food Riots (See Milwaukee) and the "natural disasters" start to become common place...Canadian Cities will be impacted as well but Rural Canada will be as close to "normal" as you can find...(B.C. Manitoba, etc)

They have already trained thousands of soldiers in preparation for the influx of Americans who can see the writing on the wall trying to cross the border when a loaf of bread is 100 dollars...hahhaa...you see it isn't really noticable when its just health care...it will be when its food and shelter...or heaven forbid....Draft Dodging....

And somebody please tell "Stupid American" to stop mouthing off to me about protecting Canadians from invasion...lolol what nonsense...Tell me..when your military is fighting a two pronged war...against several different countries, who in gods name is going to protect you? Chertoff? hahahaa...
 

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lmao...Rule #1..the safest places are where the banks are...Canada is known as the laundromat...its where the Fed Reserve & Narcotics money gets washed...The Spin Machine Baby...everybody whos anybody knows the worse place on the planet to live is an American City...this will become more obvious once the Food Riots and the "natural disasters" start to become common place...Canadian Cities will be impacted as well but Rural Canada will be as close to "normal" as you can find...(B.C. Manitoba, etc)

They have already trained thousands of soldiers in preparation for the influx of Americans who can see the writing on the wall trying to cross the border when a loaf of bread is 100 dollars...hahhaa...you see it isn't really noticable when its just health care...it will be when its food and shelter...or heaven forbid....Draft Dodging....

Loren I really think you are the spaceman...lol just come clean, I'm sure no one else will know you but me
 

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Not sure I can add much more...Home prices are f'n expensive in Vancouver but a lot of that has to do with everyone wanting to live here...
Anyone who is somewhat employable is only out of work if they want to be...winters are Shite...rain from November to May...and June's not that great either. July and August UnF'ning Believably fantastic. Women are spectacular, the food is great.
Racially mostly...whites, Chinese and Indians...
Other than the high home prices...I can't imagine many other places I'd rather be well other than central america or Australia
 
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Our borders are OFFICIALLY gone with Mexico and Canada starting in 2010

57 CFR docs Bush signed in March of 05 with Martin and Fox


Bye Bye American dollar
Hello AMERODOLLAR
Bye Bye American Trucking Industry
Hello to Land Grabs in Texas via the 10 lane Super Highway


Enjoy the landscape .... its changing quickly and this is no fluke gameplan
layed out by the Elite who control the world and want to turn the USA
into a 3rd world country
 

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