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and it continues tonight with the 49'ers - GA loses money nearly every week and Blue Marlin admits that a brutal football season buried them - I have never said anything bad about any book but I think alot of books are in big trouble and this time it is not the gossip queens - its real.
 

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GA's record almost looked fake, if it weren't for Ken posting that I might not have believed it. I am sure many books are down for the year, but if anyone is running as bad as GA did for so many months of different sports then it is time to look in the mirror to see who is the problem there.

I think the reality here is just typical for almost any industry. Most of the money and the liquidity are at the solid, big books and the little guys can't do anything but get bonus whores and sharps that will only pick on their weak numbers. I can't believe anyone would even want to run a book right now that wasn't near the top of the respected list. And if stuff like this keeps happening it is only going to get worse. Then again those of us that try to only patronize the best books probably don't mind them getting more customers.
 

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Yes, books have certainly not had a football season as they would have wished for. That coupled with the day-to-day expenses of running a book is causing a strain on many books which is quite obvious. However, those that weather this storm, will be reaping huge benefits in the near future.
 

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You're right Seymour, as it has been too easy this year for the players. Anyone who is betting this year and didn't make money up until early November should quit or jump off a tall building. If you are playing offshore, I would make sure it was at a big house with a reputation for deep pockets - Oly, Grande, Cris, etc. Otherwise, be very careful, especially if you are at one of those small joints offering large bonuses. Another reason to play with the big boys is that square money has been winning a lot this year, and the big boys have a better mix of players. Some wiseguys may have actually been losing.

This may all sound like common sense, but if it is, why are people playing at those half-assed books?
 

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In addition to all the sexy teams winning in the NFL I think the people running these books are just hustlers/street level people and have no clue how to run a real business - i.e., Blue Marlin is in business for 8 years and they can't come up with 500k? Something is wrong. What happened to all the winnings?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Seymour:
In addition to all the sexy teams winning in the NFL I think the people running these books are just hustlers/street level people and have no clue how to run a real business - i.e., Blue Marlin and is in business for 8 years and they can't come up with 500k? Something is wrong. What happened to all the winnings?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You bring up a very good point. I wish I could tell you the answer.
 

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While I don't think it's been a banner profit year for the books, it's certainly not been a loser!

Maybe the average win is down 40% from last years banner year.

Stay with books that have been paying the public for at least 4 - 5 years, don't spend 100's of thousands of $$ on advertising, and you should be ok.


Avoid the others like a plague !!.
 

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No way the NFL is down 40% - I would imagine they are running near even - and they need to pay to run things - I know locals that are paying out every weekend - I'm just glad KC did not cover against the Bengals.
 

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Seymour:

40% less win than last year - not just NFL

The last 6 weeks have been the nuts.
 

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And The Favorite with The Over covering on Monday Night Football didn't help any last night...
 
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There is no way based on the opening and closing lines that CRIS is down for the season and personally think the material in this thread is 100% bullshit.

The moves have been been average thus far this season and the mean square error for the opening lines is as low as it has ever been.
 

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Why do most people here seem to agree that fav. wins = losses for the books???
Heavy moves may lead to losses for the books but most responsible books try to balance things, so why wouldnt they be just as happy when the fav. wins?
 

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If you stick with shops that have been around for a while and get two way action with decent volume you should not have any problems.
As JC says shops offering large bonuses are often a bigger risk as this has to be factored into the overall hold that the book will have .
 

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If there is a BOOK LOSING this SEASON, they should consider SELLING PIZZAS........
 

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books may lose for a short period of time(eg. 8 weeks)but they could get everything back in a week. books with deep pockets and know how to book will always make $ in the long run. books always have to work if they are caught napping(partying) to long they may never get up.
 

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Books getting hammered this season is a BS excuse. I'm tired of hearing books are getting hammered. If you can't book right, get out early and minimize the loss for yourselves and your players. Many of these books are just gambling themselves when they stay open (still taking deposuts) in the red.
 

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Gaming Today reports in their Heard on the Street column that Las Vegas Sportsbooks are having a banner football season. Look, I know the offshores get some sharp play but someone isn't telling the truth here.
 

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The books are winning as usual. If any book is crying the blues get your money out of there quick!
 

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Like Moon said if you know how to book the bm's are walking with two loafs of bread in their hands.Most of the bm's i've spoken to told me that college has been bad but have had mostly good to excellent sun. nfl.
 

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"You're right Seymour, as it has been too easy this year for the players. Anyone who is betting this year and didn't make money up until early November should quit or jump off a tall building. "

Anybody have any keys to the roof of a tall building in Richmond VA?

Did you ever think that some gamblers actually try to bet with the books not against them?
 

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