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I was wrong, the BBC does have it, they spell it differently though.
Posted today on the website.

No mention that they meet over the next 3 days in Italy though.

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By Jonathan Duffy
BBC News Online


The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever.
Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.

Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".

Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.


Leiden in Holland, the inauspicious base of the Bilderberg group
But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.

On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.

For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.

What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.

Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.

The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.

DISCREET AND ELITE
This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees
They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is decided by Bilderberg.

In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.

And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.

"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.


Timothy McVeigh was among those who believed the conspiracy theory
Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".

"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.

But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.

"The idea that such meetings cannot be held in private is fundamentally totalitarian," he says. "It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there."

As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).


The alternative - the WEF welcomes journalists
His response to claims that Bilderberg exerts a shadowy hand on the global tiller is met with characteristic bluntness. "Crap!"

"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.

Formed in the spirit of post-war trans-Atlantic co-operation, the idea behind Bilderberg was that future wars could be prevented by bringing power-brokers together in an informal setting away from prying eyes.

"Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended. The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

"In my experience the most useful meetings are those when one is free to speak openly and honestly. It's not unusual at all. Cabinet meetings in all countries are held behind closed doors and the minutes are not published."

That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no surprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.

"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."

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If Bilderberg doesn't have anything to hide, then let the reporters and the cameras in...
 

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People are not required to allow cameras and reporters into their homes whenever reporters feel like doing so, or into hotel rooms or board rooms or any other private meeting on private property. Why should this group be any different?

Oh, it's so big and powerful, we can't trust it.

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we dont have any right to know what goes on in their meetings, as that would be a violation of their rights in my estimation.

however, anyone who thinks george bush is the leader of the free world, is sadly mistaken.

the most powerful in the world have a vested interest in protecting what they have. and if that means going to war, cutting taxes, forming the european union, or controlling the world's oil suppy, then it will happen no matter what the consequences for the private citizen of each individual country are.

and for the naive who believe in a utopian society, i wish i had your ideals. keep believing that you are in control of your own destiny, and the most powerful have your best interests in heart; it allows for a happier life and less sleepless nights.
 

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I always wanted to be a professional hockey player... damn them. I never was in control of my destiny...damn them. There all so mean...damn them. I never get nothing...damn them

Who is them again?
 

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Caesar,

Rational thought is what put humans at the top of the food chain, therefore we should consider it a good thing. That means the more we know about what's really going on around us, the better off we are. Otherwise we might as well aspire to be laboratory mice running around in a labyrinth looking for cheese. Or maybe a dog fetching a stick in the park. Those animals seem pretty happy in their state of ignorance.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phaedrus:
People are not required to allow cameras and reporters into their homes whenever reporters feel like doing so, or into hotel rooms or board rooms or any other private meeting on private property. Why should this group be any different?

Oh, it's so big and powerful, we can't trust it.

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Phaedrus<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theyre not private individuals, they're public figures, with huge influence over millions of citizens.
If you want to be a private citizen-a real one, drive a bus or something.

And this citizen would like to know what the fuk they get up to.
I don't have double standards like you.
If these fukkers were Federal/governmental I would like to know what they were up to just as much.


Example.
2001 attendance list:

USA. Allaire, Paul A. - Chairman of the board of directors and CEO, Xerox Corporation; member, Council on Foreign Relations

DK. Andersen, Bodil Nyboe - Governor, Central Bank of Denmark

GB. Balls, Ed - Chief Economic Adviser, Spads, HM Treasury

P. Balsemão, Francisco Pinto - Professor of Communication Science, New University of Lisbon; Chairman, Impresa SGPS; Former Prime Minister.

S. Barnevik, Percy - Chairman, Investor AB and ABB (Asea Brown Boveri Ltd.)

N. Bergesen, Jr. Finn - Administrative director, NHO (Confederation of Norwegian Business and Industry)

I. Bernabè, Franco - Chairman, Franco Bernabè Group; International Board of the World Economic Forum; Special Representative of the Government of Italy to the Balkan, Board member of Peres Center for Peace (President - Uri Savir).

F. Beytout, Nicolas - Editor-in-Chief, Les Echos

CDN. Black, Conrad M. - Canada, Chairman and C.E.O., Hollinger International, Inc.; Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.

F. Bon, Michel - Chairman and CEO of France Télécom

IRL. Bruton, John - Former Prime Minister of Ireland; Vice Chairperson of the EPP and CDI

D. Burda, Hubert - Germany, Publisher, Burda Verlag (magazines) media

NL. Burgmans, Antony - Netherlands, C.E.O, Unilever NV

E. Cebrián, Juan L. - VC, Sogecable, S.A. (TV Broadcasting); CEO PRISA (El Pais)

F. Collomb, Bertrand - Chairman and CEO, Lafarge; Director, Total Fina Elf Group (petroleum & chemicals), Atco; Supervisory Board, Allianz; Board of Directors, Credit Commercial de France

CH. Couchepin, Pascal - Minister of Economic Affairs; Head of the Swiss Federal Department of Public Economy, (Swiss Federal Councillor)

INT. Courtis, Kenneth S. - Vice President for Asia of Goldman Sachs, (Japan) Inc.; International Research Council of the Center for International and Strategic Studies (CSIS) in Washington and Economic Strategy Institute in Washington.[Canadian]

IRL. Cox, Pat - President of the Liberal Democrat Group (ELDR), European Parliament.

USA. Dam, Kenneth S. - Deputy Secretary designate at US Department of the Treasury; member, Council on Foreign Relations (New York)

B. Davignon, Etienne - Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique; Former Vice Chairman of the Commission of the European Communities

GR. David, George A. - Chairman, Coca-Cola Hellenic Bottling Company SA.

USA. Dodd, Christopher J. - Senator, Democratic Party, Connecticut; member, Council on Foreign Relations

USA. Donilon, Thomas E. - Executive Vice President, Law and Policy, FannieMae; member, Council on Foreign Relations

I. Draghi, Mario - President of the Economic and Financial Committee, Council of the EU - Director General, Ministry of the Treasury

USA. Eisenhower, Susan - Tufts University, Asst. Director, Communications and Media Studies; President, the Eisenhower World Affairs Institute

DK. Eldrup, Anders - Permanant Secretary, Ministry of Finance; Danish government representative to SAS (airlines)

TR. Erçel, Gazi - Merkez Bank; former governor Central Bank of Turkey

USA. Feldstein, Martin - Professor of economics at Harvard University; President and CEO, National Bureau of Economic Research.; member, Council on Foreign Relations

INT. Fischler, Franz - E.U. Commissioner for Agriculture and Rural Development, European Commission

USA. Glickman, Dan - Former Secretary of Agriculture; Partner, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld L.L.P.

USA. Graham, Donald E. - Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company

I. Gros-Pietro, Gian Maria - Chairman, ENI S.p.A.( Italian energy group)

USA. Hagel, Chuck - Senator, Republican, Nebraska

NL. Halberstadt, Victor - Professor of Public Economics, Leiden University; former Honorary Secretary of Bilderberg Meetings

S. Hedelius, Tom C. - Chairman, Svenska Handelsbanken; Vice Chairman of the Board, Ericsson

FIN. Heinonen, Olli-Pekka - Minister of Transport and Communications

N. Heyerdahl, d.y., Jens P. - Group president and CEO, Orkala ASA

N. Höegh, Westye - Chairman of the Board, Leif Hoegh & Co ASA

NL. Hoeven, Cees H. van der - President, Koninklijke Ahold nv

CDN. Hunkin, John - Chairman and C.E.O., Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce

B. Huyghebaert, Jan - Chairman, Almanij NV

S. Johansson, Leif - President and C.E.O., AB Volvo

USA. Johnson, James A. - Johnson Capital; Vice-Chairman Perseus, LLC; member, Council on Foreign Relations

USA. Jordan Jr., Vernon E. - Managing Director, Lazard Freres & co LLC [Senior Partner, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Field is a possible misprint]; member, Council on Foreign Relations

USA. Kissinger, Henry A. - Chairman, Kissinger Associates Inc.; Former Secretary of State; member, Council on Foreign Relations

D. Kopper, Hilmar - Chairman of Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank A.G.

USA. Kravis, Henry R. - Founding partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.; member, Council on Foreign Relations

USA. Kravis, Marie Josée - Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute Inc.

INT. Lamy, Pascal - EU, European Trade Commissioner

F. Lévy-Lang, André - Former Chairman, Paribas

USA. Lewis, Bernard - Emeritus Professor of Near Eastern Studies, Princeton University; member, Council on Foreign Relations

FIN. Lipponen, Paavo - Prime Minister

CDN. Lord, Bernard - Prime Minister of New Brunswick

CDN. MacMillan, Margaret O. - Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs

GR. Manos, Stephanos - Member of the Greek Parliament & Former Minister of National Economy; President of the Liberal Party

P. Martins, Guilherme. d'Oliveira. - Minister of Presidency

USA. Mathews, Jessica T. - President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; member, Council on Foreign Relations

NL. Melkert, Ad P.W. - Parliamentary Leader PvdA, (Labour Party)

E. Miguel, Ramon de - Secretary of State for European Affairs

F. Montbrial, Thierry de - Director, French Institute of International Relations

INT. Monti, Mario - European Commissioner for Competition (internal market, financial services, financial integration, customs, taxation)

D. Mosdorf, Siegmar - Secretary of State for Economics and Technology

USA. Moskow, Michael H. - President , Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago; member, Council on Foreign Relations

P. Moura, Vasco Graça - Member, European Parliament; 1st Vice President, Committee on Culture, Youth, Education, the Media and Sport

CDN. Monroe-Blum, Heather - Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto

F. Nallet, Henri - International Secretary, Socialist Party

ISR. Nashashibi, Mohammed - Former Roving Ambassador of the Arab League; Finance Minister for Palestine Authority; Author

D. Nass, Matthias - Deputy Editor, Die Zeit

NL. Netherlands, Her Majesty the Queen of The - Beatrix, [reputedly the richest woman in the world]

PL. Olechowski, Andrzej - Former presidential candidate; Leader, Civic Platform

FIN. Ollila, Jorma - Chairman of the Board and C.E.O., Nokia Corporation; Member of the board of directors, Ford Motor Company and UPM-Kymmene (large timber/paper company)

NL. Orange, His Royal Highness the Prince of - Willem-Alexander, just married the daughter of an Argentinian fascist.

CH. Ospel, Marcel - President & Group Chief Executive, Union Bank Of Switzerland AG (UBS - total assets $ 1,1 Trillion)

INT. Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso - Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank; President of the International Center for Monetary and Banking Studies; Member of the G -7 & G -20 Deputies; Chairman of the G -10 Committee on Payments and Settlement Systems

S. Padgrotsky, Leif - Minister of Trade

USA. Pearl, Frank H. - Chairman & C.E.O of Perseus LLC; Founder & Chairman, Rappahannock Investment Company and Counterpoint Press.

CZ. Pehe, Jiri - Director, New York University, Prague; former advisor to President Havel

USA. Perle, Richard N. - Resident Fellow, The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research; Chairman and chief executive officer, Hollinger Digital, Inc.; Director, Jerusalem Post; member, Council on Foreign Relations

GB. Pragnell, Michael P. - CEO Syngenta AG; Director, AstraZeneca plc

USA. Prestowitz Jr., Clyde V. - Founder & President, Economic Strategy Institute (areas of expertise: Globalization, Asia, Technology Policy, Business Strategy); former senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment

A. Raidl, Claus J - CEO and Director, Böhler Uddeholm AG (steel)

S. Ramqvist, Lars - Chairman & C.E.O., Ericsson (world's third largest mobile phone manufacture); Board member, Skandia & Volvo

USA. Rattner, Steven - Investment Banker, Director and Managing Principal Quandrangle Group; US Treasury advisory committee on IMF matters; "old hand" at Davos meetings of the World Economic Forum; Chairman of New York Channel 13; member, Council on Foreign Relations

I. Riotta, Gianni - Co-Editor, La Stampa

INT. Robertson, George - Secretary General, NATO

USA. Rockefeller, David - Chairman of the International Advisory Committee, Chase Manhattan Bank; Member JPMorgan International Council; Founder and Honorary Chairman of the Trilateral Commission; member, Council on Foreign Relations

E. Rodriques Inciarte, Matías - Executive Vice Chairman, Banco Santander Central Hispano

GB. Roll, Eric - Senior Adviser, UBS Warburg Ltd,

TR. Sanberk, Özdem - Turkish Ambassador to the U.K.; Director General, Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation (TESEV)

A. Scholten, Rudolf, A. - Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Österreichische Kontrollbank AG

D. Schrempp, Jürgen E. - Chairman of the Board of Management, DaimlerChrysler AG

DK. Seidenfaden, Tøger - Editor-in-Chief, Politiken - one of the biggest Danish newspapers

RUS. Shevtsova, Lilia - Carnegie Endowment for International Misery, Visiting Professor, University of California at Berkeley & Cornell University

US/GB. Siedentop, Larry A. - Fellow of Keble College & lecturer on political philosophy at Oxford University; Author of Democracy in Europe

GB. Sieghart, Mary Ann - Editorial writer and assistant editor, Times of London

E. Spain, Her Majesty the Queen of, - Sofia

GB. Taylor, J. Martin - Chairman, WH Smith PLC, International Adviser, Goldman Sachs International

USA. Thornton, John L. - Director, Ford Motor Co.; President and co-CEO, Goldman Sachs & co Inc.; member, Council on Foreign Relations and the Brookings Institution

S. Treschcow, Michael - President and C.E.O., Electrolux Group AB

F. Trichet, Jean-Claude - Governor, Banque de France

CH. Vasella, Daniel L. - Chairman & C.E.O., Novartis AG (Pharmaceuticals)

FIN. Virkunen, Janne - Senior Editor-in-Chief, Helsingin Sanomat

S. Wallenberg, Jacob - Chairman of the Board, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

S. Wallenberg, Marcus - President and C.E.O, Investor AB; Vice Chairman of the Board, Ericsson

CDN. Whyte, Kenneth - Canada, Editor-in-Chief, The National Post

GB. Wolf, Martin - Associated Editor/Economics Commentator, The Financial Times

D. Wolff von Amerongen, Otto - Chairman and C.E.O., Otto Wolff Industrieberatung und Beteiligungen GmbH.

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Maybe they're the aliens that run planet earth, and they get together to eat slugs and laff at us once a year.

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2002 attendees

USA Allaire, Paul A. - Former Chairman and CEO, Xerox Corporation

CDN Baillie, A. Charles - Chairman and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group

GB Balls, Edward - Chief Economic Advisor to the Treasury

P Balsemão, Francisco Pinto - Professor of Communication Science, New University, Lisbon; Chairman of IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.

F Belot, Jean de - Editor-in-Chief, Le Figaro

USA Bergsten, C. Fred - Director, Institute for International Economics

N Bernander, John G. - Director General, Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation

CDN Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.

INT Bolkestein, Frits - Commissioner, European Commission

P Borges, António - Vice Chairman and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

USA Boyd, Charles G. - President and CEO, Business Executives for National Security

F Castries, Henri de - Chairman of the Board, AXA

E Cebrián, Juan Luis - CEO, Prisa (El Pais)

F Collomb, Bertrand - Chairman and CEO, Lafarge

CH Couchepin, Pascal - Federal Councillor; Head of the Federal Department of Economic Affairs

GB Dahrendorf, Ralf - Member, House of Lords; Former Warden, St. Antony's College, Oxford

USA Dam, Kenneth W. - Deputy Secretary, US Department of Treasury

GR David, George A. - Chairman of the Board, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.

USA David-Weill, Michel A. - Chairman, Lazard Frères & Co.

TR Dervis, Kemal - Minister of Economic Affairs

USA Deutch, John M. - Institute Professor, MIT

USA Dinh, Viet D. Assistant Attorney General for Office of Policy Development link to him

USA Donilon, Thomas E. - Executive Vice President, Fannie Mae

I Draghi, Mario - Vice Chairman and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs International [Chairman of the Deputies of the Group of Ten, Bank of International Settlements]

USA Eizenstat, Stuart - Covington & Burling

DK Eldrup, Anders - Chairman of the Board of Directors, Danish Oil & Gas Consortium

USA Feldstein, Martin S. - President and CEO, NAtional Bureau of Economic Research

P Ferreira, Elisa Guimarães - Member of Parliament, Former Minister of Planning

USA Foley, Thomas S. - Partner, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld

INT Fortescue, Adrian - Director General, Justice and Internal Affairs, European Commission

CDN Frum, David - American Enterprise Institute; Former Special Assistant to President Bush

F Gergorin, Jean-Louis - Executive Vice President, Strategic Coordination, EADS

USA Gigot, Paul A. - Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

USA Greenspan, Alan - Chairman, Federal Reserve System

NL Groenink, Rijkman W.J. - Chairman of the Board, ABN AMRO Bank N.V.

A Gusenbauer, Alfred - Member of Parliament; Chairman, Social Democratic Party

NL Halberstadt, Victor - Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings

USA Hills, Carla A. - Chairman and CEO, Hills & Company, International Consultants

USA Hoagland, Jim - Associate Editor, The Washington Post

USA Hubbard, Allan B. - President, E&A Industries

USA Hutchison, Kay Bailey - Senator (Republican, Texas)

B Huyghebaert, Jan - Chairman, Almanij N.V.

D Ischinger, Wolfgang - Ambassador to the US

USA James, Charles A. - Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust

USA Johnson, James A. - Vice Chairman, Perseus, L.L.C.

USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. - Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC

USA Kissinger, Henry A. - Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.

NL Kist, Ewald - Chairman of the Board ING N.V.

NL Kleisterlee, Gerard J. - President and CEO, Royal Philips Elecronics

D Kopper, Hilmar - Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG

USA Krauthammer, Charles - Columnist, The Washington Post

USA Kravis, Henry R. - Founding Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.

USA Kravis, Marie-Josée - Senior Fellow - Hudson Institute Inc.

CH Kudelski, André - Chairman of the Board & CEO, Kudelski Group

USA LaFalce, John J. - Congressman (Democrat, New York)

USA Leschly, Jan - Chairman & CEO, Care Capital LLC

F Lévy-Lang, André - Former Chairman, Paribas

B Lippens, Maurice - Chairman, Fortis

USA Mathews, Jessica T. - President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

USA McAuliffe, Terry - Chairman, Democratic National Committee

USA McDonough, William J. - President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

E Miguel, Ramón de - Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs

USA Mitchell, Andrea - Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondant, NBC News

F Moïsi, Dominique - Deputy Director, French Institute of International Relations

F Montbrial, Thierry de - Director, French Institute of International Relations

USA Moskow, Michael H. - President, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

N Myklebust, Egil - Chairman, Norsk Hydro ASA

FIN Ollila, Jorma - Chairman of the Board and CEO, Nokia Corporation

TR Özaydinlí, Bulend - CEO, Koç Holding A.S.

INT Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso - Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank

GR Papahelas, Alexis - Foreign policy columnist. TO VIMA

USA Pearl, Frank H. - Chairman and CEO, Perseus, L.L.C.

USA Perle, Richard N. - Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

D Polenz, Ruprecht - Member of Parliament, CDU/CSU

USA Prestowitz, Jr., Clyde V. - President, Economic Strategy Institute

USA Racicot, Mark - Chairman, Republican National Committee

USA Raines, Franklin D. - Chairman and CEO, Fannie Mae

A Randa, Gerhard - Chairman and CEO, Bank Austria AG

USA Rattner, Steven - Managing Principal, Quadrangle Group LLC

CDN Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.

USA Rockefeller, David - Member, JP Morgan International Council

E Rodriguez Inciarte, Matías - Executive Vice Chairman, Banco Santander Central Hispano

GB Roll, Eric - Senior Adviser, UBS Warburg Ltd.

USA Rose, Charlie - Producer, Rose Communications

F Roy, Olivier - University Professor and Researcher, CNRS

USA Rumsfeld, Donald H. - Secretary of Defense

TR Sanberk, Özdem - Director, Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation

D Schrempp, Jurgen E. - Chairman of the Board of Management, DaimlerChrysler AG

D Schulz, Ekkehard - Chairman, ThyssenKrupp AG

F Schweitzer, Louis - Chairman and CEO, Renault S.A.

DK Seidenfaden, Tøger - Editor-in-Chief, Politiken

F Seillière, Ernest-Antoine - Chairman and CEO, CGIP

RUS Shevtsova, Lilia - Senior Associate, Carnegie Moscow Center

USA Siegman, Henry - Council on Foreign Relations

USA Soros, George - Chairman, Soros Fund Management

USA Steinberg, James B. - Vice President and Director, Foreign Policy Studies Program

N Stoltenberg, Jens - Leader of the Opposition (Social Democratic Party)

USA Summers, Lawrence H. - President, Harvard University

IRL Sutherland, Peter D. - Chairman and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs International; Chairman BP Amoco

FIN Taxell, Christoffer - President and CEO, Partek Oyj

USA Thoman, G. Richard - Senior Advisor, Evercore Partners Inc.

USA Thornton, John L. - President and co-CEO, The Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

FIN Tiilikainen, Teija H. - Director of Research, Centre for European Studies

S Treschow, Michael - Chairman, Ericsson

F Trichet, Jean-Claude - Governor, Banque de France

CH Vasella, Daniel L. - Chairman and CEO, Novartis AG

USA Vink, Lodewijk J. R. de - Chairman, Global Health Care Partners; Credit Suisse First

A Vranitzky, Franz - Former Federal Chancellor

S Wallenberg, Jacob - Chairman of the Board, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

CDN Whyte, Kenneth - Editor, The National Post

GB Williams, Gareth - Leader, House of Lords; Member of the Cabinet

INT Wolfensohn, James D. - President, The World Bank

D Zumwinkel, Klaus - Chairman of the Board of Management, Deutsche Post AG
 

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Yup. Its just a couple of drinks and a round of golf for the boys....

No press reporting allowed, no publicity allowed.

2002 attendees
USA Rumsfeld, Donald H. - Secretary of Defense
INT Wolfensohn, James D. - President, The World Bank
USA Greenspan, Alan - Chairman, Federal Reserve System
 

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Eek,

One thing is for sure about you, you don't mess around when it comes to class warfare! You go straight to the top.
 

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Two ways of looking at this thing......

I was merely pointing out the thought that innocent people have nothing to hide....if a trooper pulled me over and asked to look in the trunk, I'd say "go on ahead"....

Other people would ask the trooper if he had a warrant and play the no-right-to-go-there card.

I'm not talking about making this into a media circus, but when all these high powered people get together and not even a reporter allowed to listen in on what's going on or being discussed leads me to believe there is something they don't want us to hear....

Do some of you people think that these people are just getting together to play in a bridge tournament?
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posted by eek:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Theyre not private individuals, they're public figures, with huge influence over millions of citizens.

If you want to be a private citizen-a real one, drive a bus or something.
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They are private citizens with an absolute right to privacy in their affairs. it doesn't matter what they are discussing.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
And this citizen would like to know what the fuk they get up to.

I don't have double standards like you.

If these fukkers were Federal/governmental I would like to know what they were up to just as much.
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It isn't a double standard in the least. Government entities have no privacy, private ones do, the end. It isn't because the government has an ability to effect me that it has no right of privacy from me -- in fact, neither the Italian parliament, nor the city council of Vancouver, BC nor any number of the myriad political groupings which do not exercise jurisdiction over my particular patch of land owe me a thing. It's not about what they're up to at all -- the Bilderberg 2004 meeting could be solely focused on weighing the various pros and cons of proposed ways to kill Phaedrus, and I would have no right to an intimate knowledge of these proceedings. Would I benefit from such knowledge, possibly enormously? Yes. Do I have a right to such knowledge? No.

And neither do you, no matter how dissatisfied with your life you are, and no matter how much you'd like to blame it on the rich.


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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jointpleasures:
Eek,

One thing is for sure about you, you don't mess around when it comes to class warfare! You go straight to the top.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Its not just class here...

I don't see much in the way of Chinese, Japanese, black dudes?(anyone know any in that list?) Arabs, Africans, It looks like there might be a couple of women...
Are any of them black guys? just wondering.

...there's not a bulk order for white bedsheets with eyeholes when these dudes get together is there....?
 

bushman
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...and ultimate cocktail party 2005.
(Thx for reminding me Stucco)

Bilderberg:
Their annual meeting is May 5-8.

And guess who's coming to dinner in europe on the 6th for the VE day stuff....bringing all his buddies with him of course....

"President Bush leaves for Europe Friday(6th) where he will take part in
ceremonies marking the end of the Second World War in Europe."
http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-05-05-voa47.cfm

Just like last year!
He 'just happens' to be in europe at Bilderberg cocktail party time!

spooky huh.
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Long live Freedom of Speech
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this is closer to the truth than you realize

eek said:
Maybe they're the aliens that run planet earth, and they get together to eat slugs and laff at us once a year.

AG
i dont think we agreed on 911 but this statement isnt too far off...i hope you dont consider this a joke.....
 

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