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Biggest oil price drop in 17 years

Crude falls $6.45 a barrel - 2nd largest price drop in dollar terms - as Fed chief indicates inflation and high fuel prices will cut into U.S. demand for oil.
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<!--endclickprintexclude--><!-- /REAP -->NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil prices plummeted by the second-largest margin on record Tuesday as investors feared a further decline in U.S. demand after hearing comments from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.
Light, sweet crude fell $6.44 to settle at $138.74 a barrel in trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
The drop in oil was the largest single-day slide in dollar terms since Jan. 17, 1991, when oil fell by $10.56. On that day, President George H.W. Bush withdrew oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve ahead of the first Gulf War.
But in 1991, oil was trading at just $32 a barrel, so the more than $10 slide in dollar terms represented a record 33% drop. Oil fell 4.4% Tuesday, which does not even crack the top 100 price declines in percentage terms.
On Tuesday morning, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned that high energy prices have helped to limit the purchasing power of U.S. households. High energy costs will remain a drag on the U.S. economy for the rest of the year, Bernanke told the Senate Banking Committee Tuesday.
That could result in businesses pushing a greater percentage of their high fuel and commodity costs through to consumers, he warned.
Immediately following Bernanke's speech, prices dropped more than $9, sinking below $136 a barrel, before recovering some.
"There's more demand destruction than people first perceived," said Neal Dingman, senior energy analyst at Dahlman Rose & Co.
Inflation: The weakened dollar, which Bernanke named as one of the reasons Americans can't spend as much, has been blamed for much of crude's runup.
Investors have been buying oil and other commodities to hedge against inflation, but that behavior may be changing as many begin to see it weighing on demand.
There's "definitely a reverse of what the rationale was even 2 to 3 weeks ago," said Peter Beutel, oil analyst with Cameron Hanover.
Federal Reserve: The Federal Reserve, which has the power to quell runaway inflation by raising a key interbank lending rate, has its hands tied, since the banks and other institutions that prop up the U.S. economy need the liquidity, according to Tom Orr, head of research at Weeden & Co.
In recent days, the government has unveiled a plan to bolster mortgage financing companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and has taken control of mortgage lender IndyMac Bank.
"They've got to keep rates as low as they can, though they really should be tightening... They know they need to tighten, but they just can't," said Orr.
"This is starting to feel like Jimmy Carter and the 1970s all over again," he added, describing a time when inflation was high due in large part to soaring energy prices.
OPEC demand: Internationally, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries mirrored Bernanke's concerns. The oil cartel lowered its demand forecast for 2008 to an increase of 1.2% from 1.28%, blaming economic strife and high fuel prices.
Concerns about lower demand even overshadowed the tight supply picture, which has been at the forefront of oil's price surge.
Brazil: The five-day strike by Brazilian oil workers in the Campos basin at 33 offshore rigs operated by state-run oil company Petrobras entered its second day, cutting into supply.
Petrobras stated that only two rigs had been totally shut down, but that production had been reduced by 4%, according to the Associated Press.
Iran: Investors also remained concerned about tensions between Iran, the second-largest exporter in OPEC, and the United States and Israel over its nuclear program.
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blamed high oil prices on threats from the West in an interview with state television, according to reports. However, he said that talks with the United States were possible.
Gas prices: Gasoline prices in the U.S. maintained record highs at $4.109 a gallon Tuesday, according to a daily survey from motorist group AAA.
 

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I pray a lot of those speculators are taking it in the ass right now.
 

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Let me put this in perspective so you don't all become to orgasmic.

We are celebrating $130 crude.......

One year ago if you said crude would be $130, everyone would be in a state of shock and extreme panic.

Plus, this crap is destined to go up in all probability................but hoping not.


The DOW is up a whopping 80 pts on day........LOL
 

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So with this news, does the Price of gas start going down for us?
 

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Plus, this crap is destined to go up in all probability................but hoping not.


I would say not. I know talking to an energy trader who has been around for sometime. He expects to see 100$ a barrel by October. I think he actually said 95$, but He is not the only one. Thing is that we only hear the people that say those whopping numbers like 200$ or more.
 

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This should cause some margin calls which will force the price even lower. I thought oil dropped $9 a barrel a week ago. Maybe that was over 2 days.
 

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CRUDE is back up to near 135 as we speak...........

Many bearish traders were stating that 130 was what they were hoping for on todays inventory results.

Until we go under 125, this means very little to any of us..........and then, we are still talking about 124 crude for goodness sakes.
 

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Oil's 2-day decline: $11 a barrel

Futures plummet after surprise growth in crude, gasoline stockpiles hints at impact of high prices on usage.

By Kenneth Musante, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: July 16, 2008: 12:17 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil prices plummeted Wednesday, bringing a two-day selloff to about $11 a barrel, after the government's weekly inventory report suggested record high gasoline prices may be reducing the nation's energy consumption.
At12:16 p.m. ET, light, sweet crude for August delivery was down $4.45 to $134.29 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
Oil was down $1.17 before the report's release. Wednesday's drop followed a $6.44 plunge Tuesday that was the second largest decline ever on a dollar basis.
The government's weekly stockpile report showed that crude supplies rose by 3 million barrels in the week ended July 11. Analysts were looking for a drop of 3 million barrels according to a poll by energy research firm Platts.
Gasoline supplies rose by 2.4 million barrels, rather than the 1.1 million decline analysts expected.
Distillates, used to make diesel fuel, jet fuel and heating oil, rose by 3.2 million barrels. Analysts were looking for an increase of only 1.7 million barrels.
Bernanke: The two-day oil selloff also reflected the gloomy economic picture being painted by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke in his Congressional testimony.
On Tuesday, Bernanke told the Senate Banking Committee that high energy prices and slower economic growth have limited ability of U.S. households to purchase fuel and other necessities. Bernanke appeared Wednesday before the House Financial Services Committee.
The price of gasoline and diesel fuel in the U.S. touched new records Wednesday, according to a daily survey from motorist group AAA. Gasoline is more than 35% more expensive than last year.
"The weaker economic outlook, the inventory build all contribute," said Amanda Kurzendoerfer, commodities analyst with Summit Energy. However she warned that long-term investors may see the price decline as a buying opportunity.
"The one thing we can be sure of is that we're looking at a lot of volatility going forward," she said.
OPEC, Brazil: The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, which supplies about 40% of the world's oil, cut its demand forecast for 2009 Tuesday to an increase of 900,000 barrels a day, 100,000 barrels less than 2008.
There were also reports that production in Brazil had not been hurt as much as originally feared by a labor strike in the Campos Basin, which supplies about 80% of the country's oil, and tensions eased with Iran, the second largest producing member of OPEC.

State-owned oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA said production had not been affected by the ongoing strike at 33 offshore platforms that began on Monday. First Published: July 16, 2008: 9:31 AM EDT
 

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I would say not. I know talking to an energy trader who has been around for sometime. He expects to see 100$ a barrel by October. I think he actually said 95$, but He is not the only one. Thing is that we only hear the people that say those whopping numbers like 200$ or more.

is it the same energy trader thats been feeding you info while youve been calling for oil to fall for at least the past couple months while its continued making new all time highs?

we only hear the $200 bulls? are you kidding...ive been hearing that oil was a bubble thats going to collapse every $10 price rise since it went above $20 earlier this decade.
 

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Im so torn with this kind of story. Im one of the very few people who benifits from these high oil prices, but at the same time I do feel compasion towards the people who suffer like this.

I have never been better off in my life then I am today, I make 3x more money then I made just 3 years ago. My pay is directly affected by oil prices. The more I pay at the pump, the bigger my bank account.

Im hoping for prices to get stable at around $100 a barrel. Thats a price we can all live with.

I make money, you dont killed at the pump.

$65 is the magic number. If it falls below that, then I start having problems.
 

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seriously...now of course most americans want oil and gas prices to stop rising and fall.

however, do people realize how ridiculous it sounds to talk about oil falling the most it has in 17 years, while its still above $130 a barrel and gasoline is still at or above $4 a gallon?

most of the people that are today saying oil is going to fall below $100 are the same ones that have been calling for it to collapse this entire decade.

:think2:
 

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could just be a correction could be the top as the economic slowdown on top of high prices as wages and jobs are contracting....spill over into oil consumption

oil has surprised me and fooled me to date getting this high

time will tell

either way it was long overdue for a correction

the chart is pure comedy ~50 to 140 pretty much in a straight line since early 2007
 

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Percentage wise this does not even compare to when the first president Bush release oil from the strategic oil reserve prior to the first gulf war which sent prices tumbling down. This "huge drop" we are discussing is less than 5%. Hardly huge at all.

Woof, I enjoy reading your insights.
 

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micheal, this is an election year and politicians know if they can somehow talk the oil market back down near $100 people will be more optimistic (and more likely to vote for incumbents) than when oil was LESS THAN $100 and rising.

we heard the same things during every 10% or greater price correction while oil has risen from $10 - $145 a barrel the past 10 years.

we will hear the same bs when oil finally reaches $200 and falls back to 150.

same would also happen if oil ever reached $500 and fell back to 400. LOL

its all a big game and people fall for the same bs.

hopefully some people here have learned to see through the smokescreen.

oil being $130 a barrel is similar to telling a 30 yo guy that previously had one week to live, he now might live another 6 months.

sometimes the faces change, but the game is the same.
 

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i still don't see how you think we can have oil at 200+ and financial armageddon at the same time woof

just doesn't make much sense to me

well minus the jews bombing iran or something.....

that said though i've been wrong about oil to date we'll see if it rolls over eventually as the global economy slows even more....
 

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micheal, this is an election year and politicians know if they can somehow talk the oil market back down near $100 people will be more optimistic (and more likely to vote for incumbents) than when oil was LESS THAN $100 and rising.

we heard the same things during every 10% or greater price correction while oil has risen from $10 - $145 a barrel the past 10 years.

we will hear the same bs when oil finally reaches $200 and falls back to 150.

same would also happen if oil ever reached $500 and fell back to 400. LOL

its all a big game and people fall for the same bs.

hopefully some people here have learned to see through the smokescreen.

oil being $130 a barrel is similar to telling a 30 yo guy that previously had one week to live, he now might live another 6 months.

sometimes the faces change, but the game is the same.

I have a question for you.
The way that we measure inflation and economic growth has been adjusted so drastically in the last 25 years thats its almost comical.
I mean technically we are not even in a recesion right now because of the way we measure those things these days.

If we were to use the same indicators today that we used in Jimmy Carters day how would we be looking right now on paper?
 

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well i'll throw in my 2cents on that question

the inflation numbers are much different now because our economy is so full of shit you don't need

home prices are deflating, flat screen tvs are deflating, laptops are deflating, cell phones are deflating (can get better iphone for half the price now), hotel prices are deflating, furniture prices are deflating, clothing prices are deflating....that makes up for alot of the current inflation in the shit you need like oil, food etc...

so you can pretty much ignore them during an economic time like now when joe six pack is mainly just buying shit they need

as far as recession they are always called well after equity carnage as they define it as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth once that finally happens markets are already well off their highs

the equity markets predict the future
 

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