There is also some perceived "very good coaches" on there with some not so great win %'s: Dantonio 35.7%, Snyder 34.8%, Briles 22.5%, Fitzgerald 25%
Some perceived "decent/average/ok/bad coaches" with maybe not as bad of numbers as one might think: Pelini 39.1% (hot head on a hot seat), Ferentz 35.8% (hasn't been fired via contract), Swinney 40.9% (is a moron)
Some perceived "decent/average/ok/bad coaches" with maybe not as bad of numbers as one might think: Pelini 39.1% (hot head on a hot seat), Ferentz 35.8% (hasn't been fired via contract), Swinney 40.9% (is a moron)
biggest surprises to me were spurrier 18-23 at USCe, snyder 23-43 at KSU, and dantonio 12-25 history vs top 25
no doubt you look at this list and wonder how guys like jones, ferentz and rhoads signed the contracts they did. nothing like being paid for mediocrity, or worse
hoke 4-20 lifetime...not good
no doubt you look at this list and wonder how guys like jones, ferentz and rhoads signed the contracts they did. nothing like being paid for mediocrity, or worse
hoke 4-20 lifetime...not good
Two that surprised me a bit were: Stanford's Shaw @ 14-4 77.7% and Org St's Riley @ 13-39 25%. Thanks rolltide, also i was wondering what u thought about the qb situation going into the season for Bama? They have done the best recruiting of talent in the past 5 years that I have ever seen. 5/1 on the title seems kinda generous to me, that was hard to type but still feel that its true.
Mike Riley at Oregon St is one coach I can never figure out. He blew that bowl game with Texas and it was all to prove a point of some kind. I wonder how many schools would be interested in him if he left or got fired and that record says a lot. I think now people can see why Oklahoma fans feel the way they do about Stoops also. He has lost a couple of big ones but he has one many more than he has lost. Spurrier had better turn it around this year or he never will.
I was intrigued so I looked. I only came up with 27 of the 28, but he was 8-4 vs non-Power 5 teams, 5-10 vs Power 5 teams. 1-7 the last two years since joining the B12, all against big boys. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, because it isn't easy changing conferences, but it's obvious that playing top-25 Utah, BYU and Boise is a notch below Ttech, KSU, OU.
Yeah, but wouldn't you agree that even 5-10 (including one BCS bowl win) vs top 25 power 5 teams is a pretty high percentage for a program like TCU? The only coach on that list who tops it is Chris Peterson at Boise. But Peterson never had to face that many top 25 programs in the WAC. If you compare that record to other coaches who have worked most of their careers at non-power 5 schools, that's a great track record. Example Art Briles 7-24, Gary Anderson 2-8. Both considered very good coaches. On the other side of the coin you have Bill Snyder, who most of us consider a very good respected coach. But he scheduled more cupcakes and sure wins in his coaching career than any coach I know. Giving him a good but kind of deceiving overall record. But he compiled just a 23-43 record against the top 25. I knew TCU was going to have some adjustment problems when they joined the Big 12. Especially with their overall depth. But there has also been some disastrous off field incidents that has derailed this team the last couple of years. Even so, TCU has been very competitive. You very seldom see them get blown out of games. They beat two top 25 team on the road in 2012. And they lost to 2 top 25 (BCS Bowl) teams OU and Baylor by just 3 points each last season. So they are getting closer.
I think it's decent enough, at least on par with the second tier guys. I think the point I was trying to get at is that, even so with this very interesting chart, you have to get inside the numbers. 14-14 is inflated and it isnt as impressive, imo, when it's just one power-5 program a year (actually 7 games in 11 years of MWC), as opposed to 4 in a single year. 7 games in 11 years vs 8 games in 2 years. His win percentage bottomed out, but like I said, with conference change it's hard to completely throw out the past.
assuming we can agree that in the last 5 years if Bama was an underdog or as much as a 5.5 point favorite it was against a top 25 team, Saban is 9-3 (right in line with the 28-12 record)... not like he's posting that 28-12 just by being -20 favs vs #23 when he's #1 while playing at home. BTW covered all 9 by avg of 12 ppg
team = ALA and line >= -5.5 and season >= 2008
| SU: | 9-3-0 (12.42, 75.0%) | Teaser Records | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ATS: | 9-3-0 (11.79, 75.0%) | avg line: -0.6 | +6: 11-1-0 (91.7%) | -6: 8-4-0 (66.7%) | +10: 12-0-0 (100.0%) | -10: 8-4-0 (66.7%) |
his contract doesn't expire until jan 2017 and is fully guaranteed so there is some pretty serious $$ there for them to think about.
bright side is they're Big 10's preseason #1 soccer program...probably lacrosse too whenever that starts
even with edsall i have them making a bowl game
