Biden folks should watch their rhetoric

[BuzzKill]

In a statement, Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election."
"And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” added Mr Bates,
in apparent reference to the Republican president.

That was a stupid thing to say. The count is not over. They are alienating folks who might want to be kind to Joe if he becomes President. If Trump is the Trespasser in Chief then maybe instead of being open to Joe and giving him a chance we should call him the Criminal in Chief if he is elected.

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Biden campaign threatens to ‘escort Trump out of White House’ if he refuses to concede election

Joe Biden’s campaign has warned that Donald Trump could be escorted from the White House, amid reports he has no plans to concede.
In a statement, Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election."
"And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” added Mr Bates, in apparent reference to the Republican president.
The remarks come in response to reports that Mr Trump has no plans to concede, should Mr Biden be confirmed as the president-elect on Friday.
Mr Trump, who is on course for defeat against his Democratic opponent, Mr Biden, once all votes are counted and declared, was said to have told aides this week that he would not accept such a situation, reported CNN.
Aides, including White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, have also reportedly refused to challenge the president on an election loss, which has become increasingly inevitable.
At present, the Trump campaign was said to be in doubt about a concession speech, with an expectation that the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, or eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, could be forced to do so.
Fox News, meanwhile, was reported to have informed staff that Mr Biden should not be refereed to as “president elect” should he become so, in apparent concern at legal threats from the Trump campaign against election officials.
Mr Biden on Friday pulled ahead in two crucial battleground states, Georgia and Pennsylvania, with ballots still to be counted - many of which are expected to favour the Democrat.
A win in either state would push the Democratic nominee over the 270 electoral college votes necessary to become president elect.
Mr Trump has claimed without basis that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election. This is not true, and all ballots continuing to be counted are legal.

- The Independent - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-trump-us-election-white-house-b1644175.html

 

[BuzzKill]

Pelosi is already calling Biden President-Elect while the voting process is still ongoing. No wonder she lost seats in the House. Does she really want to bring the country together? The country would be best served by having a new Speaker of the House, one that does not piss off half the country.

 

[theDonger]

The country would be best served by having a new Speaker of the House, one that does not piss off half the country.

Cheers to that!

 

[Dafinch]

In a statement, Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election."
"And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” added Mr Bates,
in apparent reference to the Republican president.

That was a stupid thing to say. The count is not over. They are alienating folks who might want to be kind to Joe if he becomes President. If Trump is the Trespasser in Chief then maybe instead of being open to Joe and giving him a chance we should call him the Criminal in Chief if he is elected.

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Biden campaign threatens to ‘escort Trump out of White House’ if he refuses to concede election

Joe Biden’s campaign has warned that Donald Trump could be escorted from the White House, amid reports he has no plans to concede.
In a statement, Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election."
"And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” added Mr Bates, in apparent reference to the Republican president.
The remarks come in response to reports that Mr Trump has no plans to concede, should Mr Biden be confirmed as the president-elect on Friday.
Mr Trump, who is on course for defeat against his Democratic opponent, Mr Biden, once all votes are counted and declared, was said to have told aides this week that he would not accept such a situation, reported CNN.
Aides, including White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, have also reportedly refused to challenge the president on an election loss, which has become increasingly inevitable.
At present, the Trump campaign was said to be in doubt about a concession speech, with an expectation that the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, or eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, could be forced to do so.
Fox News, meanwhile, was reported to have informed staff that Mr Biden should not be refereed to as “president elect” should he become so, in apparent concern at legal threats from the Trump campaign against election officials.
Mr Biden on Friday pulled ahead in two crucial battleground states, Georgia and Pennsylvania, with ballots still to be counted - many of which are expected to favour the Democrat.
A win in either state would push the Democratic nominee over the 270 electoral college votes necessary to become president elect.
Mr Trump has claimed without basis that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election. This is not true, and all ballots continuing to be counted are legal.

- The Independent - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-trump-us-election-white-house-b1644175.html

I MARVEL as to how you're so upset at THAT "rhetoric,: but were honky dory with the FREQUENT messages put forth by the scumbag who is slowly being cut to pieces in front of our eyes that, if he lost, he might not leave. Hypocrite much? Btw, whatever happened to the Big Bomb on Hunter Biden?

 

[SheriffJoe]

They are totalitarians at heart and can't help themselves.

 

[BuzzKill]

I MARVEL as to how you're so upset at THAT "rhetoric,: but were honky dory with the FREQUENT messages put forth by the scumbag who is slowly being cut to pieces in front of our eyes that, if he lost, he might not leave. Hypocrite much? Btw, whatever happened to the Big Bomb on Hunter Biden?

They are totalitarians at heart and can't help themselves.

If Pelosi is Speaker for another two years look for the House to go Republican after the 2022 election which might not be so bad. I would say appoint a Special Prosecutor for the Biden Crime Family but Joe has insurance with Kamala being the one to take his place if Joe resigns or worse. Who wants Kamala as President?

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House Democrats savaged Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a family venting session that featured yelling and crying lawmakers in the wake of the party's losses on Thursday.
And the drama on the three-hour conference call played out live on Twitter, as details were leaked to the Capitol Hill press corps, who tweeted all the wild details.
Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat from Virginia who narrowly won a second term on Tuesday night, yelled out her frustration, accusing party leaders of bowing to demand from the liberals, like members of 'The Squad.'
Democrats kept control of the House in this year's election but their majority shrank and it was moderate members of the party who lost. The final results aren't in but Democrats could loss up to 10 seats.
'We need to be pretty clear,' Spanberger said of election night results. 'It was a failure. It was not a success. We lost incredible members of Congress.'
'No one should say 'defund the police' ever again,' Spanberger said, referring to one of liberals' demands, Politico reported. 'Nobody should be talking about socialism.'
Spanberger, continued to unload on Democratic leaders, warning if the party kept up these tactics in 2022 election: 'We will get f****** torn apart.'
Spanberger was hit with multiple attack ads accusing her of trying to 'defund the police' after she voted for a police reform bill. The issue was a heated one this summer during the mass of Black Lives Matters protests that swept the nation. President Donald Trump and Republicans countered the racial tension by accusing Democrats of not supporting police officers.
Pelosi pushed back against Spanberger though.
'I do disagree, Abigail, that it was a failure. We won the House,' the speaker said.
She also told lawmakers to come to her personally with any worries and gave out her personal cell phone number.
Meanwhile, one lawmaker who lost her race broke down and cried during the session.
Democratic Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell of Florida, who was expected to win re-election, cried as she spoke and mentioned how people can't pronounce her name and then told her colleagues to stop being negative on Twitter, a Washington Post reporter tweeted.
As details from the conference call emerged in the Twitter feeds of Capitol Hill reporters, lawmakers demanded the guilty leakers be found - information that was immediately leaked to the press.
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, a member of Democratic leadership, jumped into the call midway through to tell those on it to stop leaking. He also reminded them that reporters aren't their friends, the Post noted.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal, took it a step further and demanded Jeffries find the leakers.
There are 232 Democratic lawmakers and all of them could have been on the call, which is for all members of the party. Staff could have been listening too, which would make it harder to find the person or persons who were leaking.
'Some of my colleagues are literally live-leaking our internal Dem Caucus call right now to CNN, The Hill, NBC, Politico, etc,' Rep. Jared Huffman tweeted during the call. 'I've gotten texts from 3 different reporters asking me to live-leak juicy details to them. No. We (Dems and the media) need to stop this nonsense.'
Jayapal, who is the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, defended the left wing of the party against the moderate attacks.
'Our base is turning out to help save this country,' she said.
And Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a squad member along with fellow Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, defended their group, all of whom won re-election.
'Don't blame myself and others who are fighting for issues that matter to our communities,' she said. 'We need to do a real autopsy and dig through it' before attacking each other.
But Rep. Marc Veasey of Texas also voiced his frustration, saying the left's approach to defunding the police and banning fracking gave Republicans fuel for their attack ads.
Veasey said he had watched GOP 'commercial after commercial' using video footage of Democrats uttering the words, 'defund the police,' to great effect, The Hill newspaper reported.
The call was billed as a 'family session' but became a bitch fest between the liberal wing of the party and its more moderate members - all of whom were disappointed by the Democrats failure to win more seats. The party expected to pick up five or more on election night.
Rep. Cheri Bustos, who led the Democratic efforts to add to their House majority, defended her work. The Illinois Democrat, a moderate, barely won her own race.
She blamed the polls for misrepresenting the electorate.
'Something went wrong,' she said. 'They all pointed to one political environment -- but voters who turned out look a lot like 2016.'
House Democratic leaders were shaken up by Tuesday's results and said they would hold a postmortem review of the election strategy that went wrong.
Pelosi started off the call by pointing out their party held the House and Joe Biden was on the cusp of winning the White House.
'Though it was a challenging election, all of our candidates made us proud, but especially those in tough races. 'We held the House. Joe Biden is on a clear path to be the next President of the United States,' she said.
'We did not win every battle but we won the war,' she noted.
She ended the three-hour call with: 'Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with us.'
Pelosi, meanwhile, is facing tough questions about her ability to win enough votes to retain her leadership, as moderates in the party plotted to back a challenger.
Democrats went into Tuesday night expecting to pad their majority in the House by marching deeper into President Trump's 2016 win territory, but instead Republicans made gains.
Already, two centrist Democrats in the House say they are contacting colleagues to round up support for House Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries, a top Pelosi lieutenant, for Speaker in the next Congress, according to The Hill.
Several moderate House Dems only won tough re-elections after vowing not to back Pelosi for another term as Speaker - and they view Jeffries as a potential establishment leader who could garner support from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's powerful 'squad' of progressives.
'He bridges moderates and progressives better than anyone. And most importantly, he's not Nancy Pelosi,' one Democratic lawmaker told The Hill of Jeffries. 'He's the only one prepared and positioned' to be Speaker.
Publicly, Jeffries has shot down any notion of seeking the top leadership role, remaining loyal to Pelosi and saying he is focused on retaining his current job.
The Speaker is chosen by a majority vote of the entire House, meaning that in theory, a handful of centrist Democrats could force the party's hand in the case of a slim majority by threatening to side with Republicans.
However, it's unclear whether Ocasio-Cortez's powerful faction would back Jeffries for Speaker, after she previously threatened to back a primary challenger against the fellow New York Democrat in the 2020 election.
All four members of Ocasio-Cortez's squad won re-election on Tuesday, and the faction added three new progressive allies in districts in Missouri and New York.
Pelosi was notably quiet on Wednesday regarding her party's shrinking margin in the House.
She didn't directly address her losses in a letter to her Democratic colleagues, aside from calling the election 'challenging.'
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, a California Republican, said the erosion of the Democratic majority could threaten Pelosi's grip on the Speaker's chair.
'I know the vote on the floor is difficult for Speaker. I know there was a number of people who did not vote for her last time,' McCarthy said at a press conference Wednesday, alluding to Democratic defectors two years ago.
'And as our numbers continue to grow, I think at the end of the day, no matter where we end up, we'll be able to have a very big say, or even run the floor when it comes to policy,' McCarthy predicted.
After the 2018 election, Pelosi survived a challenge to her leadership of the caucus - but was on more solid footing with her party's control of the House than she will be in this cycle.

- DailyMail.com - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-wild-conference-call-leaks-live-Twitter.html

 

[Dafinch]

I'd agree that it's time for Nancy to move on, but, to say that you're missing the point (more likely, a clumsy and transparent attempt at deflection)is a huge understatement. Once again, look at the story below, from today. FUCK this guy, "kicking and screaming, " THIS FAT SLOB? More like, drooling and inert...

Trump says he'll have to be dragged from the WH "kicking and screaming"

 

[BuzzKill]

If its shown that Biden won the election fair and square and Trump does not want to leave, haul him out of the White House and put his personal belongings on the street. I think the impeachment bullshit hurt the democrats in the House. They are going to lose between 7 and 11 seats to the republicans and the democrats were planning on picking up some seats. 2022 is a midterm election and the party in power usually loses some seats, so it won't be that hard for the republicans to take over the House. As far as Biden goes now, the voters knew about his corruption and if they approve so be it. Hell, no one is perfect. I live in a blue state but our congresswoman is a republican and she voted against impeachment. She was easily reelected.

 

[Dafinch]

If its shown that Biden won the election fair and square and Trump does not want to leave, haul him out of the White House and put his personal belongings on the street. I think the impeachment bullshit hurt the democrats in the House. They are going to lose between 7 and 11 seats to the republicans and the democrats were planning on picking up some seats. 2022 is a midterm election and the party in power usually loses some seats, so it won't be that hard for the republicans to take over the House. As far as Biden goes now, the voters knew about his corruption and if they approve so be it. Hell, no one is perfect. I live in a blue state but our congresswoman is a republican and she voted against impeachment. She was easily reelected.

Funny, Biden's people clearly said, "...IF he refuses to concede election," which is what YOU seem to say in your first sentence. On the OTHER hand, "The president has told allies that he'll NEVER concede," (to say nothing of "the Secret Service will have to drag him from the White House kicking and screaming")is completely bereft of contingencies, and, again, this isn't the first time he has expressed sentiments like that, yet, you didn't see fit to mention that at all. As for your "fair and square" comment, well, good luck with THAT, lol. Maybe if Twittler hadn't been so divisive in his comments re: Kenosha, WI and Michigan, he might not have narrowly lost those 2 states which he narrowly won last time around. And, why do you continue to steadfastly refuse to comment on the Hunter Biden "scandal," which you splashily started a thread on? Stevie Wonder could see THAT was a bullshit story, even Repub led investigations turned up ZIP on it, not to mention who cares about the son of the non incumbent (particularly when the incumbent's brats were TRUE examples of nepotism and have been fleecing the country for years).

 

[BuzzKill]

Hunter who?

The thing is we need to see who won. The election is over and most people are tired of the back and forth and want the politicians to start working for the country. Biden is talking about bringing the country together so I am all for that if he is sincere. If Biden is elected we need to sweep all the corruption under the rug and keep Joe on life support for 4 years knowing Kamala is in the wings. If Joe becomes President-elect, we shouldn't even speak again about Hunter or his activities.

 

[Dafinch]

The thing is we need to see who won. The election is over and most people are tired of the back and forth and want the politicians to start working for the country. Biden is talking about bringing the country together so I am all for that if he is sincere. If Biden is elected we need to sweep all the corruption under the rug and keep Joe on life support for 4 years knowing Kamala is in the wings. If Joe becomes President-elect, we shouldn't even speak again about Hunter or his activities.

Gee, that's gracious of you. In addition to sweeping Twittler's disgraceful comments under the rug (re: "kicking and screaming), you seem fully ok with sweeping the enormous corruption by TRUMP under the rug, as well. I'm afraid that Leticia James and others are gonna be in disagreement with you on THAT point, lol.

[h=1][/h][h=1]Why Letitia James Is Taking On Trump, the NRA, and More[/h]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/why-letitia-james-is-taking-on-trump-the-nra-and-more

 

[BuzzKill]

Gee, that's gracious of you. In addition to sweeping Twittler's disgraceful comments under the rug (re: "kicking and screaming), you seem fully ok with sweeping the enormous corruption by TRUMP under the rug, as well. I'm afraid that Leticia James and others are gonna be in disagreement with you on THAT point, lol.

Why Letitia James Is Taking On Trump, the NRA, and More

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/why-letitia-james-is-taking-on-trump-the-nra-and-more

If they go after Trump like they handled the impeachment nonsense or for whatever that might help the republicans in 2022 and 2024. You could call them sore winners. That all might be a good thing.

 

[Dafinch]

If they go after Trump like they handled the impeachment nonsense or for whatever that might help the republicans in 2022 and 2024. You could call them sore winners. That all might be a good thing.

First of all, LJ didn't become AG of the state that has the financial capital of the world by luck, and, proving a criminal case, in court, is a LOT different from a sham trial (don't forget, the gutless Republican bootlickers refused to allow evidence to even be presented, which means there WAS no trial) controlled by scumbags. Btw, the subject of pardons is suddenly being discussed, which oughta tell you something about the level of corruption in this turd's Administration, which 30 year former federal prosecutor touched upon today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vE-xl6FGQs&ab_channel=GlennKirschner

The likelihood of a Biden presidency has caused many people to ask about pardons: can a president pardon himself; can a president pardon a co-conspirator; what's the relationship between pardons and impeachment; can a president pardon someone who hasn't been charged with a crime; what does precedent tell us about all these maters and what happens when there is no legal precedent; etc.

 

[BuzzKill]

Washington needs to get down to the business of the people. The House has the power of the purse per the Constitution. Who pays for the debt they are running up? Future generations? How long can we keep this up? (Fiscal Year 2020 ran from October 1, 2019 and ended on September 30, 2020):

 

[Dafinch]

Washington needs to get down to the business of the people. The House has the power of the purse per the Constitution. Who pays for the debt they are running up? Future generations? How long can we keep this up? (Fiscal Year 2020 ran from October 1, 2019 and ended on September 30, 2020):

I think you should look at the following short video by a Republican who could no longer stomach Trump, your argument has a hole you could sail an aircraft carrier through. I doubt that you could logically answer even ONE of his questions, and they're quite a few of them (some of which relate to things you've brought up here).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c1pY7Rx4ps&ab_channel=RepublicanVotersAgainstTrump

[h=1]Lifelong Republican: Give Me a Chance To Change Your Mind[/h]

 

[BuzzKill]

I think you should look at the following short video by a Republican who could no longer stomach Trump, your argument has a hole you could sail an aircraft carrier through. I doubt that you could logically answer even ONE of his questions, and they're quite a few of them (some of which relate to things you've brought up here).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c1pY7Rx4ps&ab_channel=RepublicanVotersAgainstTrump

Lifelong Republican: Give Me a Chance To Change Your Mind

That is a chart from the Department of the Treasury, not an argument, just the sad truth. Last fiscal year for every dollar spent half of it was borrowed.

Budget Deficit Hits Record $3 Trillion As US Spends 100% More Than It Collects YTD - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/b...3-trillion-us-spends-100-more-it-collects-ytd

 

[BuzzKill]

Democrats and Republicans are both responsible for these huge deficits. I don't see either party addressing this problem. It's like you are at the dinner table with your family and your kid says great meal mom. Dad says we are glad you like it because when you grow up you will have to pay for half of it. When I started voting in 1970, as a Democrat, the debt was only around a trillion dollars.

 

[BuzzKill]

This year $1,200 was deposited in my bank account by the Dept. of the Treasury. I didn't ask for it, I didn't need it, I don't have to pay taxes on it. But that $1,200 and the accumulated interest on it will be paid for by future generations. Will they borrow another $1,200 and put it in my bank account next year? Democrats and Republicans are both responsible for this madness.

 

[GasMan]

You guys seem to be missing the point...they have the proof of massive voter fraud.

The Dems are trying to run out the clock and hope the country has no appetite for it.

If the reports coming in are true, the shit will get very ugly.

 

[THawk+]

If its shown that Biden won the election fair and square and Trump does not want to leave, haul him out of the White House and put his personal belongings on the street. I think the impeachment bullshit hurt the democrats in the House. They are going to lose between 7 and 11 seats to the republicans and the democrats were planning on picking up some seats. 2022 is a midterm election and the party in power usually loses some seats, so it won't be that hard for the republicans to take over the House. As far as Biden goes now, the voters knew about his corruption and if they approve so be it. Hell, no one is perfect. I live in a blue state but our congresswoman is a republican and she voted against impeachment. She was easily reelected.

While I agree with some of what you say, one thing I disagree with is the public knowing about all the Biden bullshit. Most of the public do not know about that If the media would allow all of it to come out and actually report it Biden would be done.