Belmont Stakes Thread

[wilheim]

<TABLE width=600 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=7>[size=+1]Belmont Park - June 11th, 2005 - Race 11
[size=-1]Belmont S. - Grade: 1[/size]
[size=-1]Estimated Local Post Time: 6:33 PM[/size] [/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=4>[size=-1]Race Type: Stakes[/size]
[size=-1]Breed: Thoroughbred [/size]
[size=-1]Age Restriction: Three Year Old [/size]
</TD><TD colSpan=3>[size=-1]Purse: $1,000,000 [/size]
[size=-1]Distance:One And One Half Miles [/size]
[size=-1]Surface: Dirt [/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Post[/size]</TD><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Horse
Jockey
Owner[/size]</TD><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Age[/size]</TD><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Sex[/size]</TD><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Weight
Trainer
Breeder[/size]</TD><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]Odds[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]1[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Nolan's Cat (KY)
Norberto Arroyo, Jr.
Kenneth L. and Sarah K. Ramsey[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Dale L. Romans
Kenneth L. Ramsey & Sarah K. Ramsey[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]50/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]2[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Pinpoint (KY)
John R. Velazquez
Hancock, III, Arthur, B.[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Nicholas P. Zito
Arthur B. Hancock III[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]20/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]A. P. Arrow (KY)
Jerry D. Bailey
Allen E. Paulson Living Trust (M. Paulson, trustee)[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
D. Wayne Lukas
Allen E. Paulson Living Trust[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]20/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]4[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Southern Africa (KY)
Jon Kenton Court
Al and Saundra S. Kirkwood[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Michael Puhich
Hassan Ahamdi & Michael Anderson[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]12/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]5[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Giacomo (KY)
Mike E. Smith
Mr. and Mrs. Jerome S. Moss[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
John A. Shirreffs
Mr. & Mrs. J. S. Moss[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]4/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]6[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Watchmon (KY)
Javier Castellano
Pompa, Jr., Paul, P.[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Patrick L. Reynolds
Woodlynn Farm Inc[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]50/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]7[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Andromeda's Hero (KY)
Rafael Bejarano
LaPenta, Robert, V.[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Nicholas P. Zito
Barnett Enterprises[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]15/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]8[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Reverberate (KY)
Jose A. Santos
Centennial Farms[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Sal Russo
Edward Seltzer Trust[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]6/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]9[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Afleet Alex (FL)
Jeremy Rose
Cash is King Stable[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Timothy F. Ritchey
John Martin Silvertand[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]6/5[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]10[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Indy Storm (KY)
Edgar S. Prado
Farmer, Tracy[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Nicholas P. Zito
Jim Tafel, LLC[/size]</TD><TD align=right>[size=-1]20/1[/size]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD bgColor=#e3dfcb>[size=-1]11[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Chekhov (KY)
Gary L. Stevens
Tabor, Michael, B., Smith, Derrick[/size] </TD><TD align=middle>[size=-1]3[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]Colt[/size]</TD><TD>[size=-1]126
Patrick L. Biancone
Hermitage [/size]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Jabow]

3, 5, 9, 10 are in the top two spots

good for a trifecta

 

[wilheim]

Play beat the favorite use Reverberate and Afleet Alex in an exacta box and root for Reverberate to finish on top for the best price.


Reverberate (a son of 1995 Belmont winner Thunder Gulch), could run a big race if his recent form continues, has a race under his belt at Belmont also.



wil.

 

[Jabow]

A.P and afleet are related I think

 

[wilheim]

A.P. Arrow is by 1992 Belmont Stakes winner A.P. Indy and is a half-brother to Geri, who earned more than $1 million in his career. A.P. recently broke his maiden at a mile and a quarter (Churchill Downs on May 14 on a sloppy track).




wil.

 

[THE SHRINK]

Lost on Derby.

Won BIG with Afleet Alex in Preakness who gave me a heart attack while I was in NY watching the race.

One has GOT to go against the CHALK again since this horse almost fell down last race. Who knows what effect, if any, it will have on his chances of Winning...

I just can't see laying EVEN MONEY or so...

That leaves me to go with who I believe is a CONSISTENT HORSE with a great rider that used to be the leading Jockey for many years at this track; Mike Smith...


GIACOMO BABY!!! arty:


Best of Luck,

THE SHRINK

 

[oldmanTED]

Wil:

Current $2 exacta payoffs with 30 minutes before post are as follows:

$34 Afleet Alex/Reverberate
$53 Reverberate/Afleet Alex

The combination of the two is currently the second choice behind Afleet Alex and Giacomo

 

[Wrigley]

Andromeda's Hero was an longshot in the Kentucky Derby, but he just wasn't ready physically and mentally to handle such a grueling race. Yet, he still was beaten only 7 ½ lengths. He is a high-strung horse, and needs to be handled with kid gloves. The distance of the Belmont and the big, sweeping turns should help him relax. The one interesting factor about him is that in his last three starts – fifth in the Lane's End Stakes, third in the Arkansas Derby, and eighth in the Kentucky Derby – he blew by the winner galloping out. That could mean absolutely nothing or it could mean he just can't handle these horses competitively. But it also could mean that he is a colt who is crying out for more distance, and that is what I'd be banking on.

In short, based on that and an incredible pedigree, I will give him another chance to prove he can compete with this caliber of horses. By Fusaichi Pegasus, his female family is inundated with class and stamina through granddam Equal Change, who was second, beaten less than three lengths by Ruffian, in the 1 ½-mile Coaching Club American Oaks. Fourth dam Equal Venture is the dam of Prove Out, conqueror of Secretariat in the 1 ½-mile Woodward Stakes and Riva Ridge in the two-mile Jockey Club Gold Cup. Andromeda's Hero's eight dam is a full-sister to Man o' War.

Now, whether this colt is talented enough to win the Belmont is another matter. But, he is showing the right signs, and turned in a bullet five-furlong work in 1:01 3/5 over the deep Oklahoma training track May 27, the fastest of 19 works at the distance. If you're looking for a price horse that has enough angles going for him, then Andromeda's Hero could be the right horse.

 

[wilheim]

$34 Afleet Alex/Reverberate
$53 Reverberate/Afleet Alex

Thanks Ted, not bad prices really considering Afleet Alex is involved, I don't see him not being in the money.

BOL. wil.

 

[oldmanTED]

Thanks Ted, not bad prices really considering Afleet Alex is involved, I don't see him not being in the money.

BOL. wil.

Prices still holding with 15 minutes to post. Just noticed VT's thread. Commented briefly. My apologies. Where's the Judge? Haven't seen him posting in awhile. Miss him.

 

[wmublows]

WSEX has live interactive on the race.
Buy Sell
AFLEET ALEX 44 49

VS.

The Field 51 56


Wins $100 per contract.
What do you think?

 

[oldmanTED]

WSEX has live interactive on the race.
Buy Sell
AFLEET ALEX 44 49

VS.

The Field 51 56


Wins $100 per contract.
What do you think?

Track odds currently 6/5 or +120.

 

[PatPatriot]

Andromedas' Hero

I put 50 $ on him aty 15-1.

he went through the same workout as Birdstone last year, skipping the preakness.

 

[oldmanTED]

Andromedas' Hero

I put 50 $ on him aty 15-1.

he went through the same workout as Birdstone last year, skipping the preakness.

Currently 11-1 at the track, so you got a better price. Best of luck today. Approaching the gate.

 

[oldmanTED]

No contest! Jeremy Rose timed Afleet Alex's run perfectly.

 

[wilheim]

WOW - talk about much the best - Afleet Alex,




wil.

 

[winbet]

Just saying hello Ted, hope your doing well.

 

[oldmanTED]

Just saying hello Ted, hope your doing well.

Thank you Winbet. A horse race like this one will always lift my spirits.

 

[THE SHRINK]

WOW - talk about much the best - Afleet Alex,




wil.

YOU AIN'T KIDDIN!!!!!!

Congrats to all of you who bet...

AFLEET ALEX!!!

 

[oldmanTED]

YOU AIN'T KIDDIN!!!!!!

Congrats to all of you who bet...

AFLEET ALEX!!!

Shrink:

My apologies. I didn't see your comment in VT's thread until 25 minutes ago but responded.