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Beating it & winning at it I should say IMO........about to go the way of the dinosaur.........just too hard to do anymore nowadays in this climate. (and my local doesnt put on CBB totals.)

The end is near it appears..............
 

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Definitely not as easy as it used to be, but can still be done. Kinda surprised it can still be done at all. Guess if it's not gone now it'll never fully disappear.
 

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You have to know "who" is moving the #s to be successful. This time of year there is much more two-way action(even totals), so the closing lines end up mirroring the openers. Knee jerk line followers(screen watchers) will end up getting their ass handed to them. Many times, things aren't what they seem. :think2:
 

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the guys that peak out arent doing that well this year so you cant even think of following steam at this point...
 

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For what it is worth, ICEman has still been able to do very very well at still being able to beat the cl on cbb totals. He is able to create his own # that he play's in the morning and by closing it has been 2-3 pt diff. Completly amazing. He won't give me the formula, {basicaly because he knows I won't put it to use, time being the main factor} but watching him this season has been a great step for him in the rt direction.


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For what it is worth, ICEman has still been able to do very very well at still being able to beat the cl on cbb totals. He is able to create his own # that he play's in the morning and by closing it has been 2-3 pt diff. Completly amazing. He won't give me the formula, {basicaly because he knows I won't put it to use, time being the main factor} but watching him this season has been a great step for him in the rt direction.


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I think what they are talking about above is chasing steam and beating the slow book. I don't think they are talking about originators.
 

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Betedge...Iceman for some reason has abandoned his theory this year that he used previously. He is now capping and playing at Cris so he is getting the posted number early thus usually beating the closing number with his plays.

I was banned last year at one of the slower moving books and the couple other slower ones are usually too fast nowadays but you can still get a few plays here or there.

Hache....I never have gotten many side plays in Jan- MArch....Most of my side plays were always early in the year Nov-Dec when the numbers were really off.

Belly....I agree 100% with that statement this year. Something different is definitely going on but how do you know who moves what is the question I have for you? How do you distinguish?

WW....I was wondering the same.......My assumption would be the big CBB totals players are having one of their worst years ever. Would you say that is true?
 

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I think there are some cbb totals players that have found a service or 2 that were killing it early on..since then...it has slowed a little...for ex last night...south car and fla...over was the supposed play and it got destroyed...

Books have learned their lesson...books are limiting totals to nothing...not putting up until gametime...this won't happen next year like it did early on this year...

Even the big money being moved is at a break even or so this year...

Personally, I don't think the linesmakers know what the f they are doing anymore.
 

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when a line jumps 4 and 5 points...its only a handful of guys to choose from that did the moving...

The offshores know exactly who is on what...
 

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wold what books limited you or banned you? PM me if private..thanks!
 

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Wolf..If this is the wolf I know? How are you?

All things being said about "funny" things going on with numbers (especially CBB totals this year as a standout), one must search for origins.

I could go on with HUGE conspiracy theories here, but very powerful alliances have formed in this industry which if were legit in the US, would never have been allowed to form by US governing bodies. The environment for collusion is simply overwhelming to those that can see it.
 

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Wolf..If this is the wolf I know? How are you?

All things being said about "funny" things going on with numbers (especially CBB totals this year as a standout), one must search for origins.

I could go on with HUGE conspiracy theories here, but very powerful alliances have formed in this industry which if were legit in the US, would never have been allowed to form by US governing bodies. The environment for collusion is simply overwhelming to those that can see it.


Ok lets hear some theories..all ears...:smoker2:
 

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Wolf..If this is the wolf I know? How are you?

All things being said about "funny" things going on with numbers (especially CBB totals this year as a standout), one must search for origins.

I could go on with HUGE conspiracy theories here, but very powerful alliances have formed in this industry which if were legit in the US, would never have been allowed to form by US governing bodies. The environment for collusion is simply overwhelming to those that can see it.


fplay.......Please explain your thoughts. I'd love to hear them.
 

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I feel like Donald Sutherland in JFK.....

This is not a new topic.

Linemakers and syndicates.
 

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It's gotten much harder cause many of us are autobetting with programs.
 

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It's gotten much harder cause many of us are autobetting with programs.
Where have you been? Weird thing is that today while surfing around I was thinking or wondering if you still post as much as you used to. I have not been doing so much but, how the hell have ya been sean?


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