I've never used a tout before, but I noticed their ad in their own ATS college football and NFL magazines. I do like the magazines a lot. They claim to have hit 64% over the last 10 years, and about the same percentage last year. I guess they give 2-3 college and 2-3 NFL picks a week. I'm really curious, because I saw the same claims last year, and gave some thought to buying a season and seeing how they do. And they claim that last year was about the same 65% range. I really just want to know their picks, to see if they are full of shit. Anybody ever use them, or know any more info about them? Thanks.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Illini:
I've never used a tout before, but I noticed their ad in their own ATS college football and NFL magazines. I do like the magazines a lot. They claim to have hit 64% over the last 10 years, and about the same percentage last year. I guess they give 2-3 college and 2-3 NFL picks a week. I'm really curious, because I saw the same claims last year, and gave some thought to buying a season and seeing how they do. And they claim that last year was about the same 65% range. I really just want to know their picks, to see if they are full of shit. Anybody ever use them, or know any more info about them? Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is all lies. Do not even think about buying anything from them.
I've never used a tout before, but I noticed their ad in their own ATS college football and NFL magazines. I do like the magazines a lot. They claim to have hit 64% over the last 10 years, and about the same percentage last year. I guess they give 2-3 college and 2-3 NFL picks a week. I'm really curious, because I saw the same claims last year, and gave some thought to buying a season and seeing how they do. And they claim that last year was about the same 65% range. I really just want to know their picks, to see if they are full of shit. Anybody ever use them, or know any more info about them? Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is all lies. Do not even think about buying anything from them.
they send me a lot of junk mail.........and im not giving anybody money to tell me who is going to win a ball game. use proper money management and make your own picks with whatever system works best for you. i said it once and i will say it again, if anybody in the world could predict the outcome of ballgames they would be billionaires and not need your credit card number.
I think you guys are probably right. It just confuses me though, because I really like their magazines. I know that 65% is not realistic, if you're a pro and bet all kinds of games. But it is realistic if you are very selective. I'm just really curious as to what they are about.
Why do all these guys have to lie make these BS claims? You would think that if one of them was actually honest, they would have all kinds of word-of-mouth clients. I'm really disappointed to hear this about ATS, because I buy their magazines every year, and they seemed to be different than the "I go 80% every week" scamdicappers.
ATS creates this slick image for their organization with their colorful brochures, many "testimonials", etc. They make it seem like they put all this work and information into handicapping games. When they happen to be right about a big play, they will publish a big writeup about it and detail all of the "work" they did involving it.
They do try to create a more sincere image than the Joe Wiz's of the world by looking more like an "investment consulting" company as opposed to a tout service. But it's all the same thing. Their football annual magazines aren't that bad information-wise but their claims of success are ridiculously false. They are just trying to attract a certain niche of sucker - maybe ones who are a little more sophisticated that want to see numbers, testimonials, results, fancy expensive brochures that look like company annual reports, etc. And they get their share of suckers which is why they are still around year after year.
They do try to create a more sincere image than the Joe Wiz's of the world by looking more like an "investment consulting" company as opposed to a tout service. But it's all the same thing. Their football annual magazines aren't that bad information-wise but their claims of success are ridiculously false. They are just trying to attract a certain niche of sucker - maybe ones who are a little more sophisticated that want to see numbers, testimonials, results, fancy expensive brochures that look like company annual reports, etc. And they get their share of suckers which is why they are still around year after year.
The key word with these shyster's is LIES. Usually every football and basketball season you will see posts in the forums for the sports with ATS plays and you can see how bad they do for yourself without paying those crooks a penny. Actually they have a couple of plays of the year that are on like losing streaks for YEARS and YEARS. Someone here might be able to tell you the actual names of these plays that we look for to consistently fade. They're are a few that are automatic.
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