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Doctor says depressed patients should not be prescribed lethal doses of drugs.

Oregon's assisted-suicide law, the only one of its kind in the nation, has come under fire from a doctor who says too few safeguards are in place to protect patients with emotional problems from being prescribed drugs to kill themselves.

Dr. Gregory Hamilton of the Oregon-based Physicians for Compassionate Care made the allegation this week at a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association. He pointed to the case of Michael Freeland, who died of lung cancer in 2002 — one year after receiving a prescription for a lethal dose of barbiturates under Oregon's Death With Dignity Act.

Although Freeland never took the suicide drug, Hamilton said he never should have been given it in the first place, since he suffered from depression.

"You have a depressed man being treated for depression by one doctor and given an overdose by another," Hamilton said. "This is the first case where someone had been prescribed a lethal overdose where we actually have the documents and can actually reveal what's going on with assisted suicide in Oregon."

But Barbara Coombs Lee, president of Compassion in Dying, a supporter of physician-assisted suicide, thinks a patient's depression is irrelevant.

"Because they're sad or depressed," she said, "does not mean that they no longer are mentally capable, that they cannot understand the situation of their lives and make rational decisions about their desires."

Hamilton, though, said Freeland's case proves that the safeguards promised when assisted suicide was legalized are not working.

"In my view," he said, "the majority of patients in Oregon taking over-doses are depressed."

http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0031961.cfm
 

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A question I have often wondered about mentally ill people...Did they have any control over their mental illness? Alot of mentallY ill people never had a chance...some become mentally ill because of their lives going bad... depressing world we live in for many many people
 

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Mental illness says more about a person's ability to blend into society than it does about what's actually going on within his mind. Psychiatry is just another form of law enforcement IMO.
 

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Man,when I want to check out,I should be able to.Ain't nobody's bussiness but my own.
 

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Personally, if I avoid all the trappings that lead to an early death and make it to that stage of my life where it looks like the quality of life is over and I'm stuck with some debilitating disease that is corroding my bones and has led to the deaths of thousands of people already......I hope that Kevorkian is still around....he'd be 160 years old and I'd be like 80......

Problem with assisted suicide is the degree or stage of severity of the ailment that one would seek death over.....

also the true intent of the person wishing death and is he capable of conveying to the people assisting the deed that he is wishing to die....

lots of gray areas here.....

myself, I look more at the QUALITY of life...why live to be 100 if you spend the last 30 years in crippling pain possibly bound to a wheelchair?
 

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Americans moreso than most societies have an irrational fixation with delaying death.

The whole idea of making suicide a crime is absurd.

How do we punish someone who commits or attempts suicide?

"Assisted suicide" is in fact little more than someone wanting to commit suicide who gets help from an MD so as to make sure they don't fail.

If assisted a suicide is deemed a criminal act, then those who wish to kill themselves will simply turn to an illegal drug market to obtain the needed pills. Such action means empowering the criminal drug market. It means many who attempt it will 'fail' and often become an unneeded medical burden to taxpayers.

In short, criminalizing it is ridiculous - just one of many such laws in our society that criminalize adult consensual behavior that harms no one else.
 

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If you'd like to read the best book ever written on this topic, I direct you to the NY Times bestseller penned by a dear friend and mentor, the late Peter McWilliams.

Several years before his passing from this plane, Peter put all of his bestselling books online so anyone could read them.

I suggest Bookmarking this site and at your leisure, reading Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do - as well as Peter's other books.

Peter's books on changing your thinking played a key role in helping me to overcome a destructive lifestyle of drug and alcohol abuse.

But more to the point here, ANBIYD is a tremendous compilation of writings about how absurd it is to criminalize adult consensual activities.

The United States is likely the society where this is most illustrated, due in large part to how many of our laws have their basis in nothing more than religious superstition.

AIN'T NOBODY'S BUSINESS IF YOU DO - The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes In America can be read at:

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/

The specific chapter on Suicide/Assisted Suicide can be seen here:

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/312.htm

Enjoy
 

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My brother gave up nursing because he was fed up of watching people with no hope of recovery being kept alive by all means possible instead of them being allowed to pass away naturally.
He's a specialist geriatric nurse, 15 years.
A recent case, which he says is inevitable in todays environment..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/3666553.stm

The real motivation, is to allow them to pass away.
When you've been doing it for years, you know when they're a goner.

[This message was edited by eek on May 07, 2004 at 11:25 PM.]
 

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