As predicted by non-Nazis (blue ST) -- CIA confirms Iraq War CREATES Terrorist Haven

[lander]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6823913/

Iraq a new terror breeding ground
War created a haven,
CIA advisers report
By Dana Priest

Updated: 10:41 p.m. ET Jan. 13, 2005

Iraq has replaced Afghanistan as the training ground for the next generation of "professionalized" terrorists, according to a report released yesterday by the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's think tank.



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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>President Bush has frequently described the Iraq war as an integral part of U.S. efforts to combat terrorism. But the council's report suggests the conflict has also helped terrorists by creating a haven for them in the chaos of war.

"At the moment," NIC Chairman Robert L. Hutchings said, Iraq "is a magnet for international terrorist activity."

Before the U.S. invasion, the CIA said Saddam Hussein had only circumstantial ties with several al Qaeda members. Osama bin Laden rejected the idea of forming an alliance with Hussein and viewed him as an enemy of the jihadist movement because the Iraqi leader rejected radical Islamic ideals and ran a secular government.

Bush described the war in Iraq as a means to promote democracy in the Middle East. "A free Iraq can be a source of hope for all the Middle East," he said one month before the invasion. "Instead of threatening its neighbors and harboring terrorists, Iraq can be an example of progress and prosperity in a region that needs both."

Unguarded borders
But as instability in Iraq grew after the toppling of Hussein, and resentment toward the United States intensified in the Muslim world, hundreds of foreign terrorists flooded into Iraq across its unguarded borders. They found tons of unprotected weapons caches that, military officials say, they are now using against U.S. troops. Foreign terrorists are believed to make up a large portion of today's suicide bombers, and U.S. intelligence officials say these foreigners are forming tactical, ever-changing alliances with former Baathist fighters and other insurgents.

"The al-Qa'ida membership that was distinguished by having trained in Afghanistan will gradually dissipate, to be replaced in part by the dispersion of the experienced survivors of the conflict in Iraq," the report says.

According to the NIC report, Iraq has joined the list of conflicts -- including the Israeli-Palestinian stalemate, and independence movements in Chechnya, Kashmir, Mindanao in the Philippines, and southern Thailand -- that have deepened solidarity among Muslims and helped spread radical Islamic ideology.

At the same time, the report says that by 2020, al Qaeda "will be superseded" by other Islamic extremist groups that will merge with local separatist movements. Most terrorism experts say this is already well underway. The NIC says this kind of ever-morphing decentralized movement is much more difficult to uncover and defeat.

Terrorists are able to easily communicate, train and recruit through the Internet, and their threat will become "an eclectic array of groups, cells and individuals that do not need a stationary headquarters," the council's report says. "Training materials, targeting guidance, weapons know-how, and fund-raising will become virtual (i.e. online)."

The report, titled "Mapping the Global Future," highlights the effects of globalization and other economic and social trends. But NIC officials said their greatest concern remains the possibility that terrorists may acquire biological weapons and, although less likely, a nuclear device.

The council is tasked with midterm and strategic analysis, and advises the CIA director. "The NIC's goal," one NIC publication states, "is to provide policymakers with the best, unvarnished, and unbiased information -- regardless of whether analytic judgments conform to U.S. policy."

Other than reports and studies, the council produces classified National Intelligence Estimates, which represent the consensus among U.S. intelligence agencies on specific issues.

'May lose its edge'
Yesterday, Hutchings, former assistant dean of the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University, said the NIC report tried to avoid analyzing the effect of U.S. policy on global trends to avoid being drawn into partisan politics.

Among the report's major findings is that the likelihood of "great power conflict escalating into total war . . . is lower than at any time in the past century." However, "at no time since the formation of the Western alliance system in 1949 have the shape and nature of international alignments been in such a state of flux as they have in the past decade."

The report also says the emergence of China and India as new global economic powerhouses "will be the most challenging of all" Washington's regional relationships. It also says that in the competition with Asia over technological advances, the United States "may lose its edge" in some sectors.

Staff writer Bradley Graham and researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

 

[lander]

Big fvking surprise, dumbas*ses.

It almost makes makes me sick to read "oh, so should we care what the world thinks" from the infantile minds of Joint and his band of thoughtless cronnies.

Right, right?
It doesn't matter that we're creating thousands of terrorists determined to KILL OUR CHILDREN for generations to come.
It doesn't matter if we piss off 95% of the world because who really needs to share intelligence (despite the fact that post 9/11 intelligence sharing sweeps resulted in dozens of dangerous men being found).
All that matters is that you fvking idiots have a president that is as damned stupid and blasphemous as your stupid-a*s-selves.

Is that about it? Where do I sign up for the RNC?

 

[Journeyman]

This will be the biggest irony of the war...

 

[lander]

On the money, as usual, my blue state friend.

These idiots down south are running around shooting their 12 gauges in the air yelling "yee haw .. bring em' on ... this is the war on terror." Meanwhile, in the rational states we're all trying to figure out how a bunch of hillbillies can be so collectively idiotic that they none of them can understand that an illegal war against a previously non-terroristic state only breeds terrorism that would not have existed without the war.

Bush is making the US economy and defense system weaker by the second.

He is Osama's #1 recruiting officer.

 

[eek.]

It took a year to produce and includes the analysis

of 1,000 U.S. and foreign experts.

:WTF:

Anyone with some common sense would realise that with the destruction of the Baathist infrastructure, mainstream society would be left with Islam.

And as we all know, Islam can have a few warts...

 

[Phaedrus]

Nothing more than a semi-official acknowledgment of something that has been known from the start.

See also:

Before the War, Bush Told us Iraq Was a Throbbing Hub of Terror. It Wasn't. But it is Now.

(posted September 2003 no less!)


Phaedrus

 

[docmercer--banned]

Hold on!

The Great Man speaks:

President Bush tells Sunday's WASHINGTON POST that the outcome of the 2004 presidential election validates his administration's policy on Iraq

 

[lander]

I take it none of the dumba*s Bushie war-mong*rs have anything to add.

 

[Shotgun]

I don't know Lander...that 120 page report mentions Iraq about 10 times; it seemed far more concerned with China and India than any 'breeding ground' for terrorists in Iraq (I couldn't even find that term in the article).

Iraq may or may not be a breeding ground, but the article is a far better indictment on the clown that wrote the article than the invasion of Iraq. Its another version of the NY Times joke: "World Ends Tomorrow: Women and Minorities Hurt the Most". Something negative about Iraq may be in that report, so the writer ignores everything else in order to bash Bush.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/2020/2020.pdf

 

[lander]

Shotgun,
You're right -- those pesky libs and all their facts are just one big anti-Bush conspiracy. Geez ... what was this guy thinking by critizing dum dum for fighting a war on terror against a country without terror that did nothing but create previously non-existant terror. I can completely understand your position -- cokeheads should not be held accountable.

 

[Shotgun]

I knew you were a bright one Lander. Glad to see we agree on something!

 

[lander]

Shotgun,
You would have made a fine German.

 

[Shotgun]

Ich bin ein Berliner