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Here's your chance war backers your wife wont even miss you.

The Army, faced with a severe and growing shortage of recruits, began offering 15-month active-duty enlistments nationwide Thursday, the shortest tours ever.

The typical enlistment lasts three or four years; the previous shortest enlistment was two years.


Maj. Gen. Michael Rochelle, the head of the Army Recruiting Command, said 2006 could be even worse than this year, a continuation of "the toughest recruiting climate ever faced by the all-volunteer Army."


Recruits in the new 15-month program could serve in 59 of the more than 150 jobs in the Army, including the combat infantry, and then serve two years in the Reserve or National Guard.


They would finish their eight-year military obligation in the Guard or Reserve, volunteer programs such as AmeriCorps or the Peace Corps, or the Individual Ready Reserve, a pool of former active-duty troops who can still be called to duty but aren't affiliated with any military unit.


David Segal, a military personnel expert at the University of Maryland, said the 15-month enlistments are no panacea. Fifteen months, Segal said, is often not enough time to learn complex tasks in a high-tech Army.


Jim Martin, a retired Army officer who teaches military culture at Bryn Mawr College, said parents and teachers "see the Army as a real risk, a real danger" because of the war in Iraq. That, more than the length of service, is the major obstacle to recruiting.


Rochelle projected the service will have only half the number of recruits ready for 2006 than it did this year, when it had an unusually low number of recruits signed up in advance. Under the Army's delayed entry program, recruits can sign up one year and report for service a year later.


In 2006, the Army's stockpile of recruits is projected to drop from 18%, or 14,400 soldiers, of the recruiting target of 80,000 to just under 10%, or slightly less than 8,000, Rochelle said.


The Army usually aims at beginning a new recruiting year with 25-35% of its goal signed up in advance.


That cushion of advance recruits often determines whether the Army meets or misses its goal.


It's "not a bright picture," Rochelle said during a conference call.


More than halfway through its fiscal year, the Army has not been able to make a noticeable dent in the public's reluctance to enlist its sons and daughters. That's despite record-high bonuses paid to recruits, a new advertising campaign that targets parents and a dramatic increase in the number of recruiters throughout the nation.


Segal said he doesn't think the Army will make its goals this year or next. The Marine Corps is struggling.


But the Air Force and Navy, the two services not heavily involved in ground combat in Afghanistan or Iraq, should meet their goals this year, Segal said.


Rochelle said he believes the Army can meet its recruiting goal for 2005, although recruiters are working 80-hour weeks to meet their monthly quotas.


In response to cases in which recruiters offered to provide fake high school diplomas and enlist recruits with disqualifying medical conditions, the Army will stop recruiting for one day later this month to provide ethics training.


So far this fiscal year, which runs from Oct. 1 to Sept. 30, the Army reported 480 allegations, of which 91 were ruled as valid. Eight recruiters have been relieved from duty, and 98 were admonished.

Just try and get out after 15 months ;)
 
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Think Right Wing will jump on board this???
 

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doc mercer said:
Think Right Wing will jump on board this???

Oh for sure, there will be a lack of response from the right wing because they are too busy volunteering to go over to Iraq so they will be out of touch for awhile. Being that they are putting themselves and their children in harm's way, they won't have time to post on boards like these.
 
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I thought that once you signed your life away to the ersatz freedom lovers of the Bush administration they could extend your tour for as long as necessary.

So even if you sign up for a day you're fooked.

They have various backdoor draft tricks up their sleeves to help maintain private profitability in Iraq at the US taxpayers expense.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3578454.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3852209.stm

Yup. Mission accomplished.
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Yeah. Good luck getting anybody to sign up with the "stop-loss" program in effect.

"Just sign here, we'll tell you when we're done with you, but carry your cell phone along just in case we need to open another can of "shock and awe".

Kinda like going to the bank to get a home loan, and the loan officer just tells you to keep making payments until we tell you to stop.

How stupid do the recruiters and the government think the recruiting candidates are???
 
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New recruiting posters and adverts may be appearing soon

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->Faced with a drastic shortage of recruits, the US Army has widened a scheme to offer would-be soldiers the option to sign up for just 15 months.

The minimum period a recruit can usually enlist for is four years.

But in an attempt to help recruiters meet their quotas, the army has announced the 15-month active service programme will be launched nationwide.

The recruiters have been struggling to meet targets as the Iraq war continues with ever-rising US casualties.

Targets missed

Chief of army recruiting Maj Gen Michael Rochelle admitted the military was encountering the "toughest recruiting climate we've ever faced in the all-volunteer army".

The army managed only 68% of its target in March and 73% in February, and provisional figures for April also showed a shortfall, a Pentagon spokesman said.

The last time a monthly quota was missed was in May 2000.

Under the 15-month plan, which was previously run as a pilot scheme in a few recruiting stations, enlistees will continue to be able to sign up for an eight-year commitment.

But after training, they will be able to serve for as little as 15 months on active duty followed by two years in the National Guard or Army Reserve.

They can serve the remainder of their eight-year term in the active or inactive reserves or in programmes such as Americorps or the Peace Corps.

Jim Martin, a retired army officer who teaches military culture at Bryn Mawr College, told USA Today parents and teachers "see the army as a real risk, a real danger" because of the war in Iraq.

The war was a bigger factor than the length of service in finding recruits, he said.

David Segal, a military personnel expert at the University of Maryland, told the newspaper that 15 months was often not enough time to learn complex tasks in a high-tech army.

However, recruiters themselves are reportedly being boosted in numbers at the Pentagon and new advertising and other publicity efforts are also planned. Altogether, the army hopes to win 80,000 recruits over the US fiscal year, lasting from 1 October 2004 to 30 September 2005.<!-- E BO -->

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Has there been any talk of a draft?
 
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The United States no longer has a military draft and hasn't since 1973, when it converted to an all-volunteer military.

But some anti-war activists say it's only a matter of time before the Bush administration and the Republican-controlled Congress bring it back. Meanwhile, conservatives and moderates outside the administration have taken a hard look at America's military commitments and are urging Congress to beef up the Army and Marines.

Many elected officials say there is no way the draft will be brought back any time soon.

"Our current all-volunteer force is highly effective, well-trained, well-disciplined and capable of handling our global and national security commitments," said Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del. "(Defense) Secretary (Donald) Rumsfeld and the Joint Chiefs of Staff have continuously stated their opposition to reviving the draft and the House of Representatives overwhelmingly rejected such a proposal last year. I personally oppose it."

Others aren't so certain. "I don't see the need for a draft, but we need to prepare now in order to avoid having one forced on us in the future," said Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del. "We can reduce the stress we are placing on our armed forces by increasing the number of ground troops in the Army and Marine Corps and bringing the size of our military in line with our expanded responsibilities in a post-9/11 world," he said.

There are 2bills that I'm aware of that are in congress as we speak inregurds to the draft.

S.89
Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F.

H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (14)
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 10/5/2004 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 2 - 402 (Roll no. 494).
 
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They're looking at National Service...(peacetime conscription) ?????

Its a period of Military service that all young people have to go through in some countries.(Around 2 years)
Switzerland has it.

Holy fook.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_draft


They couldn't swing it could they......

...If there was another 9/11 type incident they could !!


Heh.
Maybe Doc and The Right Wing will wind up sharing the same dusthole in Afghanistan with dozens of flies crawling over their faces...
(and the only consolation is that it's all in the name of freedom.)
 

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Doc and Right Wing don't get along and yet some people expect things to work out in Iraq where religion is king and disputes are settled via lead and gunpowder.

Salmon Rushdie still has arabs looking for him since the Shah of Iran put a contract out on him for writing "Satanic Verses"......and that was in the '80s..

That was merely a book. Good luck with the Jihad against "The Infidels" that live in the west and put Grampa Akmed in the grave.
 

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There's nothing to stop military from extending the duty past the 15 month time frame so the '15 month committment' is meaningless just like Bush administration's word.
 

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