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Banks collecting billions of dollars in federal bailout money sought government permission to bring thousands of foreign workers to the U.S. for high-paying jobs, according to an Associated Press review of visa applications.
The dozen banks receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for positions that included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts and human resources specialists. The average annual salary for those jobs was $90,721, nearly twice the median income for all American households.
The figures are significant because they show that the bailed-out banks, being kept afloat with U.S. taxpayer money, actively sought to hire foreign workers instead of American workers. As the economic collapse worsened last year — with huge numbers of bank employees laid off — the numbers of visas sought by the dozen banks in AP's analysis increased by nearly one-third, from 3,258 in fiscal 2007 to 4,163 in fiscal 2008.
The AP reviewed visa applications the banks filed with the Labor Department under the H-1B visa program, which allows temporary employment of foreign workers in specialized-skill and advanced-degree positions.
It is unclear how many foreign workers the banks actually hired; the government does not release those details. The actual number is likely a fraction of the 21,800 foreign workers the banks sought to hire because the government limits the number of visas it grants to 85,000 each year among all U.S. employers.
During the last three months of 2008, the largest banks that received taxpayer loans announced more than 100,000 layoffs. The number of foreign workers included among those laid off is unknown.
Foreigners are attractive hires because companies have found ways to pay them less than American workers.

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What industry doesn't employ foreign workers?


Your missing the point! Did you even read the article?

Alot of industries employ foreign workers...but how many use our tax dollars to bail them out? Should'nt we as Americans be getting these jobs? It is bad enough that alot of business has been shipped over seas due to NAFTA and now what's left for employment in America is being catered to foreigners. These are not $5.00 an hour jobs either....
 

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Your missing the point! Did you even read the article?

Alot of industries employ foreign workers...but how many use our tax dollars to bail them out? Should'nt we as Americans be getting these jobs? It is bad enough that alot of business has been shipped over seas due to NAFTA and now what's left for employment in America is being catered to foreigners. These are not $5.00 an hour jobs either....

So a dozen banks hired 805 more foreign workers in 2008 than they did in 2007. This averages out to 67 per bank. Do we know why they hired foreign workers over domestic? No!

Anyone with any experience working for banks know that there are legitimate reasons for employing foreign workers over domestic workers such as skillsets being better for the foreign workers out of the pool of available candidates. That's just one reason. But 805 more workers is hardly newsworthy.
 

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The dozen banks receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for positions that included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts and human resources specialists. The average annual salary for those jobs was $90,721, nearly twice the median income for all American households.

AND

Foreigners are attractive hires because companies have found ways to pay them less than American workers.

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The first highlighted portion of this rant is utterly contradicted by the second
 

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YShould'nt we as Americans be getting these jobs? ....

Americans should only get the jobs if they are

1) Able to do it as well or better than the other applicants

2) Are willing to work for more competitive rates than the other applicants

The salad days of being able to just roll into a business and make two, three and 10x the salary justified for the job are over, brother.

Americans and anyone else wishing to be securely employed must prove their worth and consistent ability to compete.
 

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Does this include people working at Universities?

We could probbly get 5 smart Indian dudes for what tiz cost.
...and up to 10 living in his digs...

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...and if we take it all to its logical conclusion, there should be no-one in the world working for more than a dollar a day.

What's your job Bar?

Bet I could undercut ya bigtime.


I'll need details of what you do, how much ya get, and your employers phone number.
Thx


Betcha I could be an RX mod for less than you.
Me and my mate Doc could cover this place 24/7 for $1 a day.
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Does this include people working at Universities?

We could probbly get 5 smart Indian dudes for what tiz cost.
...and up to 10 living in his digs...

:nohead:

you have no clue how graduate research stuff works at US unversities do you

they give white boys perks to come as they tend to not have many....most go to industry to make the big bucks outta undergrad

although i'm guessing they are having no problems recruiting white boys right now with the economy going to shit

i was the only white boy in my incoming crop of students with my department when i got here

:drink:

in most graduate research oriented programs white boys a big minority....well when the economy is ok...now with economy going to shit i'm guessing that's changing some
 
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...and if we take it all to its logical conclusion, there should be no-one in the world working for more than a dollar a day.

What's your job Bar?

Bet I could undercut ya bigtime.

No, because $1 a day would not permit someone to pay life's overhead.

However, $150 a day would likely be able to undercut $250 a day if the applicants were equally able to deliver

As for the latter, you could likely undercut me in my biz (lawn/garden work) because my rates average about 25% above market median.

But it's all good because I would just go out and create another fresh set of accounts.

Unlike being an employee, being a principal allows unlimited potential for expansion of job
 

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Lol
Why do you guys suddenly sound just like protectionists?

Tiz plays the minority card and Bar doesn't like living in a van and eating the same dogfood as pooch to cut costs.

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No, we're free enterprise all the way

If one chooses to live life as an employee, you become subject to the myriad restrictions which come with that market

If one chooses to live life as an owner/operator your potential for growth is almost all self-imposed

Who has the best opportunity - the guy who runs the dog walking gimmick or the guys who he hires?
 

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Why do you guys suddenly sound just like protectionists?

Tiz plays the minority card and Bar doesn't like living in a van and eating the same dogfood as pooch to cut costs.

:nohead:

not playing any card

just what the particular market demands

in my field most native born white boys go to industry to work 50 hour weeks and make good money slaving away for the man

when the economy is good white boys are a sought after commodity in my field at the university level

there isn't any white boy quota or anything like there are with minorities and such

they just tend to like to have a diverse group of students with some white boys in the mix
 

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back to the original topic

i'm with QL you also gotta realize these banks are globalized now so they have customers from all over the world
so having people that speak various languages or understands the various global marketplaces and such is a must for most big banks

the banks are crooks obviously overall but hiring foreign workers is a minimal issue to distract from the real problems with our banking structure and overall economic system....
 

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