<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DougJ:
Never again for me. They bailed me out of Blue Marlin, but paid like Pan am. I guess they took offense at rolling over 10X, and having a profit.
Doug<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, Doug, it really sucks to have gotten totally free money, without even having to deposit a matching amount.
I read your account of the situation over at SSB. If you had put up any of your own money at all as a matching deposit, I would have some sympathy for you being somewhat slow paid by Royal.
Everyone is aware of the Royal slow pays, but since you never put up one red cent of your own money, maybe you should finally stop your complaining.
Never again for me. They bailed me out of Blue Marlin, but paid like Pan am. I guess they took offense at rolling over 10X, and having a profit.
Doug<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, Doug, it really sucks to have gotten totally free money, without even having to deposit a matching amount.
I read your account of the situation over at SSB. If you had put up any of your own money at all as a matching deposit, I would have some sympathy for you being somewhat slow paid by Royal.
Everyone is aware of the Royal slow pays, but since you never put up one red cent of your own money, maybe you should finally stop your complaining.
I can only hope that things work out. As some of you know, I had a large RX contest win with a Royal book. That was great but left me with several large rollovers. Slowly I am building my account. Actually not all that slowly, as I have had more than my fair share of success lately.
I have a certain way I play these things out and I refuse to change a system that works for me. It is a conservative system so it will still take awhile. Royal has been nothing but great to me in the past. I can only hope that their ship finds some smooth sailing. Certainly if it does, we'll all be relieved. If it doesn't,I may be the last guy standing.
Some might say I'm playing with house money. That is something I cannot stand. If it's in my account it is my money. I am going to look at this from a positive perspective however and will assume all will be well. What else can I do. And of course I'll keep you all posted on how it goes.
If I get through this the way I intend to, I will maintain at least some balance with Royal out of simple gratitude.
I don't think they realized when they bailed out the cock-suckers [man I'm using that word a lot the last few weeks] at the original GA that there were a few not so square players there.
I have a certain way I play these things out and I refuse to change a system that works for me. It is a conservative system so it will still take awhile. Royal has been nothing but great to me in the past. I can only hope that their ship finds some smooth sailing. Certainly if it does, we'll all be relieved. If it doesn't,I may be the last guy standing.
Some might say I'm playing with house money. That is something I cannot stand. If it's in my account it is my money. I am going to look at this from a positive perspective however and will assume all will be well. What else can I do. And of course I'll keep you all posted on how it goes.
If I get through this the way I intend to, I will maintain at least some balance with Royal out of simple gratitude.
I don't think they realized when they bailed out the cock-suckers [man I'm using that word a lot the last few weeks] at the original GA that there were a few not so square players there.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Halifax:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DougJ:
Never again for me. They bailed me out of Blue Marlin, but paid like Pan am. I guess they took offense at rolling over 10X, and having a profit.
Doug<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Halifax: Yes they gave me an unusually good bail-out offer. For the record they took my BM balance (minus bonus), and said roll-it 10X. Am I supposed to say NO.
Once I have met the terms, am I not entitled to be paid promptly ? I would have stayed with them had I been, and No I didn't withdraw 100% of my balance.
They are in decline, as evidenced by recent complaints and SBR rating.
If the bail-outs are bad business, they should refrain from them. Who did they think played at BM ? I'd say mostly people that wanted to buy off 3 for 10 cents.
Also Roberto must have seen this coming.
Doug
Yeah, Doug, it really sucks to have gotten _totally free money,_ without even having to deposit a matching amount.
I read your account of the situation over at SSB. If you had put up any of your own money at all as a matching deposit, I would have some sympathy for you being somewhat slow paid by Royal.
Everyone is aware of the Royal slow pays, but since you never put up one red cent of your own money, maybe you should finally stop your complaining.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DougJ:
Never again for me. They bailed me out of Blue Marlin, but paid like Pan am. I guess they took offense at rolling over 10X, and having a profit.
Doug<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Halifax: Yes they gave me an unusually good bail-out offer. For the record they took my BM balance (minus bonus), and said roll-it 10X. Am I supposed to say NO.
Once I have met the terms, am I not entitled to be paid promptly ? I would have stayed with them had I been, and No I didn't withdraw 100% of my balance.
They are in decline, as evidenced by recent complaints and SBR rating.
If the bail-outs are bad business, they should refrain from them. Who did they think played at BM ? I'd say mostly people that wanted to buy off 3 for 10 cents.
Also Roberto must have seen this coming.
Doug
Yeah, Doug, it really sucks to have gotten _totally free money,_ without even having to deposit a matching amount.
I read your account of the situation over at SSB. If you had put up any of your own money at all as a matching deposit, I would have some sympathy for you being somewhat slow paid by Royal.
Everyone is aware of the Royal slow pays, but since you never put up one red cent of your own money, maybe you should finally stop your complaining.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Halifax: Yes they gave me an unusually good bail-out offer. For the record they took my BM balance (minus bonus), and said roll-it 10X. Am I supposed to say NO.
Once I have met the terms, am I not entitled to be paid promptly ? I would have stayed with them had I been, and No I didn't withdraw 100% of my balance.
They are in decline, as evidenced by recent complaints and SBR rating.
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Of course you weren't supposed to decline their offer. No one would.
And it's no secret that Royal's been having payout problems - I can attest to that from first-hand experience.
But my point is this ... as I recall, you ripped into Royal pretty good about the runaround that you got when it came time to get a payout. Now if, for example, you would have sent them a matching $5K deposit to go along with a $5K bailout bonus, THEN you would have been in the right to give them some grief about the slow payout.
But in your case, you deposited none of your own money. Royal gave you free money, totally FREE MONEY. It was not your God-given right to receive a bailout from Royal with no matching deposit, but you got one anyway.
Did you have to jump through some hoops to get paid ? Yeah. Did you eventually get paid ?
Yes, you did.
So rather than grease them out like you did a few months ago, you should be thankful that they gave you all that free money, even if you did have to jump through some some hoops to get paid. It's certainly better than the other alternative ... which was you receiving S.F.A.
Bottom line .... it's rather poor etiquette to be too harsh on Royal about a slow payout, when you yourself never risked one thin dime of your own money.
Halifax: Yes they gave me an unusually good bail-out offer. For the record they took my BM balance (minus bonus), and said roll-it 10X. Am I supposed to say NO.
Once I have met the terms, am I not entitled to be paid promptly ? I would have stayed with them had I been, and No I didn't withdraw 100% of my balance.
They are in decline, as evidenced by recent complaints and SBR rating.
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Of course you weren't supposed to decline their offer. No one would.
And it's no secret that Royal's been having payout problems - I can attest to that from first-hand experience.
But my point is this ... as I recall, you ripped into Royal pretty good about the runaround that you got when it came time to get a payout. Now if, for example, you would have sent them a matching $5K deposit to go along with a $5K bailout bonus, THEN you would have been in the right to give them some grief about the slow payout.
But in your case, you deposited none of your own money. Royal gave you free money, totally FREE MONEY. It was not your God-given right to receive a bailout from Royal with no matching deposit, but you got one anyway.
Did you have to jump through some hoops to get paid ? Yeah. Did you eventually get paid ?
Yes, you did.
So rather than grease them out like you did a few months ago, you should be thankful that they gave you all that free money, even if you did have to jump through some some hoops to get paid. It's certainly better than the other alternative ... which was you receiving S.F.A.
Bottom line .... it's rather poor etiquette to be too harsh on Royal about a slow payout, when you yourself never risked one thin dime of your own money.
Hali-if your talking bout poor etiquette- yeh maybe heshouldve cut them some slack.
oth-you make the bet win or lose stand by it-thats your freakin business... in this case royal slow paid their bet of getting good customers that werent being skimmed by some affiliate site.
Im not even sure if that was a losing bet, maybe now it is.
Those customers would have been their greatest ally if not for the payout hassel(for 1)
oth-you make the bet win or lose stand by it-thats your freakin business... in this case royal slow paid their bet of getting good customers that werent being skimmed by some affiliate site.
Im not even sure if that was a losing bet, maybe now it is.
Those customers would have been their greatest ally if not for the payout hassel(for 1)
Halifax : I am still grateful to Royal for the bail-out.
However I test a new (to me )book, with payouts. Books like 5Dimes, Pinnacle, CBS,CB, Bowmans, etc, pass this test with ease. I then feel comfortable in sending the money back to them. Royal failed here.
I'm tired of being burnt. I don't think it's relevant if they made me match the 5k, or not. They accepted the terms (as did I ). Therefore they should honor their end of the agreement, and treat me the same as anyone else !
By the way, Halifax since you have 2,000 + posts here, you must be posting under another name at the other site ?
May I ask your name at other site ?
I do not deny I'm the person you say I am, I am. I added an initial here because my name was unavailable.
I have a decent idea of your other name, but ask you to state it.
Good Luck,
Doug
However I test a new (to me )book, with payouts. Books like 5Dimes, Pinnacle, CBS,CB, Bowmans, etc, pass this test with ease. I then feel comfortable in sending the money back to them. Royal failed here.
I'm tired of being burnt. I don't think it's relevant if they made me match the 5k, or not. They accepted the terms (as did I ). Therefore they should honor their end of the agreement, and treat me the same as anyone else !
By the way, Halifax since you have 2,000 + posts here, you must be posting under another name at the other site ?
May I ask your name at other site ?
I do not deny I'm the person you say I am, I am. I added an initial here because my name was unavailable.
I have a decent idea of your other name, but ask you to state it.
Good Luck,
Doug
