anyone pay attention to the line movement in the Haka/Allianssi

[jus000]

All morning long, the total was over 2 and 2.5 at pinnacle it was -120 i believe. Then about an hour before the game, it was over 2.5 and then over 2.5 and 3 at -140. I couldnt believe how much it jumped up in that short of time. And now looking at the game, i see its 14 minutes into the game and it is 3-0 Haka already. Doesn't that seem a little bit odd or fishy to anyone?

 

[jus000]

18 minutes in 4-0.....

 

[MarkieMark+]

Allianssi decided to play ALL 6 of the new players that just came to the team this week and the line-ups were not confirmed until 1 hour before game time. As I said in my thread, this could be a good thing or a bad thing for Allianssi. I guess we can all agree - IT IS A VERY BAD THING

5-0, 21st Minute

 

[jus000]

Thank you for your reply. That makes sense now. I just saw the line keep moving up and up and up. I am just pissed that i didnt take the over 2 and 2.5 when i had the chance

 

[MarkieMark+]

6-0, 43rd Minute

Allianssi will be shipping all 6 of their new players back to Belgium after this embarrasment. Or maybe the new players will just take off to the airport at Half-Time.

 

[jus000]

yeah, for real. That is a shame. I thought they would have played a very close game today.

 

[Faceless]

I wouldn't be suprised if the new owners of FC Allianssi were placing bets on Haka and Over. All new guys had beer bellys (or maybe just fat) + one, the goalie, had also his angle in bad shape. This new goalkeeper sucked 5 out of first 5 shots also. No.1 goalie was in Belgium for couple days, hmmmm. Two Allianssi's own juniors were included to starting sqaud also and regular guys benched.

Or maybe reason to lose 0-8 was just that thunderstorm over Haka's field and newcomers were just so frightened.

It's a party time arty:

 

[Faceless]

I was correct. This match was fixed, sorry bookies for your losses. I would have not beleived this could have happen again in Finland (big fixing 1998 in Finnish baseball league). Well, but this time it was fixed by Belgian/Chinese.

This new goalie biggest achievement is that he has played in 3rd highest level in Belgium, but not almost at all during season 2004-2005 (In Belgia their season is played during winter). No1. goalie was sent to "test camp" in Belgia, but that team where new owners sent him, didn't even wanted a new goalie.

This is unbeleivable.

 

[AFLGuru]

Interesting story to follow to see if anything comes out of this... You think that UEFA might have something to say about this Faceless? Perhaps some sort of sanctions or something against club teams in European competitions?

 

[Faceless]

If UEFA gets noted about this, they might suspend Allianssi from UEFA cup. Alliassi should play against team from Luxembourg in UEFA cup 7/14. Before the yesterday, I would have said that Alllianssi won't lose that UEFA cup match, but now they will lose.

Allianssi made one replacement after 45 mins. A reason wasn't that a player (Finnish) would have played lousy, but he shouted against their bench aftre first half, probably mainly to coach. That player is known about his temper and I'm almost sure, he don't want to play anymore at this team until situation is fixed.

So far now any offical statement that match was fixed, but our state lottery organisations which runs betting here, has big doubt about it and newspapers are writing about this. I guess Asian bookies + Pinnacle lost also a lot of money on this match

 

[AFLGuru]

That's what happens when you go in the tank 8-0... I mean 3-0 you can maybe get away with... but 8-0? Any time you see a score that ridiculous in a legit top flight league match, eyebrows are gonna raise... (following information from my boss at home, who lives in England) Apparently, people out in England thought there was a possibility that Norwich got paid out to tank the last game of the season when they were in the Premiership relegation battle and ended up tanked 6-0... rumor turned out to be no more than rumor, but yes... a massive change in the lineup card, pissed off players, and an 8-0 thrashing... does seem to add up to some sort of fix...

 

[jus000]

This will be a very interesting thing to follow. I know I was watching the line move and Pinnacle and I have never, ever, ever seen a soccer line go up soo much soo fast at Pinnacle. Once the word was out, people hammered the hell out of that line. I am still mad I didnt get in on the over 2 and 2.5 when I had the chance

 

[Faceless]

From another board:


Translating here the next twist from today's Helsingin Sanomat:
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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Quote:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=quote>La Placa was suspected in Belgium for attempt to fix a match

Belgian player of Allianssi Jaen-Pierre La Placa was suspected in spring 2005
for attempt to fix a match in Belgium at the promototion game to 2nd highest level.
Name La Placa came up in incident, where two players of Ref Star Waasland were suing
an party that remained unnamed for attempt to
make Waasland loose the first leg of promotion game against Geel.

Waasland players, Jerry Poorters was offered 6.250€ and Sébastian Dufoor
was offered 5.000€ for trying to make their team loose that game.
According to information received by Belgian newspaper, Dufoor had
told his team mates that offer was presented to him by La Placa that played
in in the team at early season (autumn 2004).

La Placa admitted to have called Dufoor, but said that he had asked his
old playing pal that could he get some tickets for him into the game.
''I didn't offered him money, not even mentioning that we would
have talked about money'', La Placa told to belgian newspaper.

Thierry Pister who was coaching Red Star Waasland had left the team
earlier in the spring before the promotion games.
According to belgian sources, the current main owner of Allianssi Zheyun Ye tried to get control in Geel.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Names mentioned in the article above now in AC Allianssi:

La Placa (striker now in Allianssi, one of those 6 new players)
Thierry Pister (new Allianssi head coach)
Zheyen Ye (new main owner of Allianssi)

I can recall an earlier article in finnish media earlier this summer
where it was mentioned that Gaal (or Waasland ?) was in talks
with this Zheyen Ye had an episode where he walked in to the pitch
before this crucial promotion game and informed that what will be the
line-up for the game. This lead into situation where coached walked out
and team ended the negotiations with Zheyen Ye about him buying the club.

According to latest news Veikkausliiga is considering
on asking police investigation on Haka-Allianssi game.

Nick_FIN

 

[jus000]

Faceless, thanks for posting that article! This is a crazy situation. Defintely looks like something rotten has gone down!