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In order starting with most improved:

Notre Dame North Carolina Northern Illinois Pitt South Car SMU Miami of Fla, West. Mich Ole Miss Maryland Minny Nebraska Arizona Kent State Northwestern Marshall Louisville Nevada New Mexico St Miami OH Iowa Wyoming San Jose St
 

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No, but I do have his list of Surprise teams.....

LOL It's something like this;
Virginia Tech, Oregon, South Carolina, Penn St, etc....

In other words, any team not named Ohio State and USC or Florida is on the list.

Just jabbin' at ya, PS
 

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pcik 23-25 teams to improve and you will be bound to get a few right that you can brag about in next years magazine.
 

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No, but I do have his list of Surprise teams.....

LOL It's something like this;
Virginia Tech, Oregon, South Carolina, Penn St, etc....

In other words, any team not named Ohio State and USC or Florida is on the list.

Just jabbin' at ya, PS

Steele's top 3 surprise teams are South Florida, Tex Tech, and Clemson. And he has al 3 finishing in the top 15 with SF and Clemson in the top 10 I believe.
 

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Steele's 2008 surprise teams:

1.USF
2.Clemson
3.Texas Tech
4.Auburn
5.Penn State
6.Va Tech
7.South Carolina
8.Florida St.
9.CAL
10.Oregon
11.Pitt
12.Notre Dame

Steele's five non-BCS teams who could surprise:

1.Utah
2.BYU
3.Tulsa
4.Boise
5.Western Michigan
 

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Steele's most improved teams:

1.Notre Dame
2.North Carolina
3.Northern Illinois
4.Pitt
5.South Carolina
6.SMU
7.Miami
8.Western Michigan
9.Ole Miss
10.Maryland
11.Minnesota
12.Nebraska
13.Arizona
14.Kent St.
15.Northwestern
16.Marshall
17.Louisville
18.Nevada
19.NM St.
20.Miami, OH.
21.Iowa
22.Wyoming
23.San Jose State
 

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<TABLE borderColor=#0000ff cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="90%" bgColor=#ffffff border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">
PHIL STEELE COLLEGE FOOTBALL - 2008-2009
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="100%">Using Phil Steele’s guide to pick out a few attractive bets

By Jeff Haney
LAS VEGAS SUN Mon, Jun 23, 2008

Phil Steele’s 2008 College Football Preview, the first of the major annuals, has arrived, prompting bettors to delve into some early-season and season-long handicapping.

Four of the usual suspects occupy the top spots in Steele’s preseason rankings — future-book favorites Florida, Ohio State, Oklahoma and USC — followed by some intriguing long shots.

Football bettors who respect Steele’s insight might consider five teams in his preseason top 25 that still command attractive prices in the future books of Las Vegas casinos.

Clemson, ranked No. 5 by Steele, is still available at 25-1 to win the BCS national championship game according to odds at the Las Vegas Hilton, although the Tigers opened at 50-1 and were 40-1 a month ago. Steele points out that Clemson is “loaded” with 16 returning starters, including quarterback Cullen Harper and running backs James Davis and C.J. Spiller, and that the Tigers face a relatively weak regular-season schedule.

West Virginia, ranked No. 6 by Steele, is a 25-1 shot at the Hilton sports book. Steele notes the Mountaineers should be favored in all 12 games and play their two toughest games, against Auburn and South Florida, at home.

No. 12 Auburn, which returns 16 starters and is projected by Steele to reach the SEC title game, is available at an attractive price of 50-1 according to Hilton odds.

Another good bet in the future book is No. 16 Virginia Tech at 40-1. Steele predicts the Hokies will reach the ACC title game.

Wisconsin, ranked No. 21, has to get past Ohio State at home but is tempting at odds of 75-1 at the Hilton sports book.

As usual, Steele breaks down each team’s returning starters by offense and defense. The angle of mismatches in the number of returning starters in early-season games might have lost value in the past several years, becoming “built into the line” as the betting marketplace became more cognizant of it. Even so, some bettors consider it a valid starting point in their handicapping or a tool to forecast possible movement in the betting line.

The early-season matchup with the most startling difference in the number of returning starters comes Aug. 29 when Temple visits Army. The Owls, the only NCAA team on the betting board that returns 22 starters, have a lopsided advantage against the Black Knights, who return only eight starters.

Penn State returns 18 starters and hosts Oregon State, which returns only 10 starters, Sept. 6. Don’t be surprised to see support at the betting windows for the Nittany Lions in that game.

South Carolina and Miami, Ohio, could draw plenty of support in each of their first two games because of big edges in returning starters. The Gamecocks, who return 17 starters, play North Carolina State (10 returning starters) in Week 1 and Vanderbilt (nine returning starters) in Week 2. The Redhawks return 17 starters and play Vanderbilt and Michigan (10 starters, only three on offense) in their first two games.

Other notable matchups in the season’s first couple of weeks are Florida (16 returning starters) against Hawaii (eight), and Florida Atlantic (18) against Texas (11).

Perhaps a better use of studying returning starters comes in predicting over/unders, or “totals,” in early-season games. A matchup of two teams with loads of returning starters on offense but few on defense could indicate a good “over” bet.

The most vivid example comes Aug. 30 when Idaho visits Arizona. The Vandals and the Wildcats each return 10 starters on offense but only four and three, respectively, on defense, creating a 20-7 combined ratio. Expect to see support for the “over” in the game after oddsmakers post betting lines for Week 1 of the college football season.

Other games where the same angle points to an “over” wager are UNLV-Utah on Sept. 6 (17-11 ratio), and BYU-Washington on Sept. 6 (16-9 ratio).


Phil Steele’s preseason college football top 25:

1.Florida

2. Ohio State

3. Oklahoma

4. USC

5. Clemson

6. West Virginia

7. Missouri

8. South Florida

9. Georgia

10. Penn State

11. Texas Tech

12. Auburn

13. LSU

14. Utah

15. Texas

16. Virginia Tech

17. BYU

18. South Carolina

19. Notre Dame

20. Cal

21. Wisconsin

22. Oregon

23. Tennessee

24. Florida State

25. Pittsburgh
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I'm not going to list all of them, but this was Phil Steele's top 10 most improved teams list of 2007...Let's see how he actually did:

1.Memphis (2-10 to 7-6)
2.Illinois (2-10 to 9-4)
3.Toledo (5-7 to 5-7)
4.Alabama (6-7 to 7-6)
5.NC State (3-9 to 5-7)
6.Iowa (6-7 to 6-6)
7.NM State (4-8 to 4-9)
8.Virginia 5-7 to 9-4)
9.Miami, Ohio (2-10 to 6-7)
10.Bowling Green (4-8 to 8-5)

As you can see only 5 out of these 10 teams improved significantly....But fellas, you have to take this for what it's worth...How many of you thought that with the amount of starters each of these teams had coming back that they were going to improve? Look at Memphis, Illinois, NC State, Miami, Ohio and BG...With the amount of wins these teams had the year before, they had nowhere to go but up. So he wasn't exactly going out on a limb with these predictions. And not one of these teams had a winning record the year before.
 

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I'm not going to list all of them, but this was Phil Steele's top 10 most improved teams list of 2007...Let's see how he actually did:

1.Memphis (2-10 to 7-6)
2.Illinois (2-10 to 9-4)
3.Toledo (5-7 to 5-7)
4.Alabama (6-7 to 7-6)
5.NC State (3-9 to 5-7)
6.Iowa (6-7 to 6-6)
7.NM State (4-8 to 4-9)
8.Virginia 5-7 to 9-4)
9.Miami, Ohio (2-10 to 6-7)
10.Bowling Green (4-8 to 8-5)

As you can see only 5 out of these 10 teams improved significantly....But fellas, you have to take this for what it's worth...How many of you thought that with the amount of starters each of these teams had coming back that they were going to improve? Look at Memphis, Illinois, NC State, Miami, Ohio and BG...With the amount of wins these teams had the year before, they had nowhere to go but up. So he wasn't exactly going out on a limb with these predictions. And not one of these teams had a winning record the year before.


great info here, but it would be even better to track how his most improved teams did ATS. were the linemakers slow to catch up, or was all the value already gone when the season started?

anybody have access to this info??
 

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pcik 23-25 teams to improve and you will be bound to get a few right that you can brag about in next years magazine.

thats exactly how it goes. he hits a few - who wouldnt. the rest fail. the next year its big headlines on the hits.
 

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these seem like the basics every magazine has...BYU is on EVERYONE's list as a possible BCS bid
 

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Clemson a surprise team?

Who would be surprised if they had a great year?
 

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