the only thing that scares me is that this is there forth road game in last 5 and fith in last 7. but even that doesnt look all that scary when i look at there road record so far this season, 3-1, only lost to dallas by 2. they are hot, winning three straight and green bay is kinda in a flat spot here. prime time revenge win that snaped 2 gms losing streak last week, a game they had two weeks to prepare for, and tampa bay next week, on the road. i dont say they will underestimate the eagles, but i expect them to be a little bit flat tomorrwo.i dont like there turnover ratio in last three games (7-2), especially against this eagles team that just doesnt lose when having an edge or at least when they are equal in this depart.philly is doing a much bettr job in turnover departement lately, turning the ball over 4 times and taking it away 6 times in last 3 games. compare that to there poor start of the season where they had 8 turnovers against only one for the opponents in there first two games.philly has a much better run defense than minny and we cant expect another 200 rushing yards game for gb. in last three seasons gb had one 200 running yds game every year and every time they followed it with a loss against the spread and only 70 rush. yds per game. and i also think that philly can be a lot better team if they run more, and i feel they will run against gb.i will go with the dog. average play. philly +4½. good luck guys.
Green Bay will not be flat. They might get beat, but with Minnesota losing Sunday, they can move to within a game of the division-leading Vikings with a victory when it looked like they were completely out of it three weeks ago. Also, Philly will be one of the teams they'll be fighting against for playoff positioning. There's no way they'll overlook the Eagles.
I'm going with GB big. GB is looking good after last week. They have alot of offensive weapons, They are playing for contention for first place, and want this win bad. I know that Philly needs a win as well to hang in there, but I just have a gut feeling GB will get this one. Just my opinion.
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thanks for your opinions guys. as i said, i dont think they will overlook philly, it just doesn't make sense to expect any team to overlook them. but theres something about teams playing huge emotional prime time games the previous week.usually they either start slow the following week (guants yesterday) or get the lead early and fade away late (colts this week, carolina last week).it is just hard to expect any team to pull off two emotional wins in a row in this league nowadays.green bay has a bigger chance to win this game but i play dogs that i believe that has a solid chance to win it outright. and i believe that phillies can win. and even if they dont, they should be able to keep it close. there last 6 games have been close, with philly winning five, and green bay hasnt won by more than 3 in there last three games.the key for eagles is in defense and special units.thats where they are bettr than gb. i will take the points with a team that has better d, special units, and at least equal running game. gl to you guys and thanks again.ptw.
[This message was edited by pay to win on November 10, 2003 at 10:54 AM.]
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man i just deleted a post that i spent 10 minutes on
but here is the short version of it. it is not a classic letdown/lookahead spot for gbay because philly is probably better than both minny (faced gb last week) and tampa (plays against gb next week) but according to the linemakers, it is stil kind off a flat spot since gb is a favored in between dog games (theyve been underdogs at minny and they will be dogs in tampa next week); and gb is only 1-7 ats since 89 when favored in between two dog games. on the other side, philly usually takes advantage of this and they are 8-1 ats since 98 when there opponent is in that spot. including a straight up / ats win at giants this year. a 3-4 pts gb win will make me happy and gb would take that if someone offered it to them right now.
From Sportsreporter:
"Eagles are the third NFL team to play a fourth road game in five weeks this season. The situation is 8-20 ATS in the NFL over the last four seasons, but both Kansas City and Tennessee have covered in it this year."
Going into GB and trying to come out a winner is tough, though it has become easier this season. The above trend makes sense from a "tired" angle. I was leaning towards GB until I saw that they have the 30th ranked defense in the league. It makes it a stay away game for me. Defense wins in this league and GB is struggling making it easier for the Eagles to trade points with them. Tough pick. You can't pass up the better defense and the points. Good luck on your pick.
"Eagles are the third NFL team to play a fourth road game in five weeks this season. The situation is 8-20 ATS in the NFL over the last four seasons, but both Kansas City and Tennessee have covered in it this year."
Going into GB and trying to come out a winner is tough, though it has become easier this season. The above trend makes sense from a "tired" angle. I was leaning towards GB until I saw that they have the 30th ranked defense in the league. It makes it a stay away game for me. Defense wins in this league and GB is struggling making it easier for the Eagles to trade points with them. Tough pick. You can't pass up the better defense and the points. Good luck on your pick.
Green Bay this is for you:
Eagles +5 right now...I need them and a low scoring game (which is the only kind of game they will win IMO) to win a football pool too.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Eagles +5 right now...I need them and a low scoring game (which is the only kind of game they will win IMO) to win a football pool too.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Philadelphia at Green Bay
As they prepare for their game at Green Bay, the Eagles are 4-4 vs. the number but 3-1 on the road. … Philadelphia is 25-11 against the spread in their last 36 regular-season road games and has covered its last seven night games away from home. … The Packers are 4-4 vs. the spread, including 2-2 at home. … Green Bay is 8-1 vs. the spread in its last nine games on Monday night.
Big Earn
As they prepare for their game at Green Bay, the Eagles are 4-4 vs. the number but 3-1 on the road. … Philadelphia is 25-11 against the spread in their last 36 regular-season road games and has covered its last seven night games away from home. … The Packers are 4-4 vs. the spread, including 2-2 at home. … Green Bay is 8-1 vs. the spread in its last nine games on Monday night.
Big Earn
This will be fun tonite, 2 ailing QB's with finger problems, who will get sacked first and leave the game. I think Philly's defense is a tad better, it appears they like to pressure the QB more. But you never now who will show up with the psycho packers. I hope none of this made sense, but I love the pack at home tonite. 28-17. Nebraska sucks
Eagles will run all over GB's defense. Al Harris will get burned at least once tonight
That being said I have to hope our D line holds up against Green and the Cheesy running game. I'm more worried about Green than I am about Farve because their receivers can't get off Taylor and Vincent's coverage. Farve can throw all the fireballs he wants the Eagles secondary is very strong.
I like the Birds but then again I'm a little biased tonight. I just can't say Green Bay is 5 points better than the Eagles...EVEN IN GREEN BAY. If the Pack had been beaten up in Minny maybe I'd be a little more worried but I think we catch them off guard tonight.
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That being said I have to hope our D line holds up against Green and the Cheesy running game. I'm more worried about Green than I am about Farve because their receivers can't get off Taylor and Vincent's coverage. Farve can throw all the fireballs he wants the Eagles secondary is very strong.
I like the Birds but then again I'm a little biased tonight. I just can't say Green Bay is 5 points better than the Eagles...EVEN IN GREEN BAY. If the Pack had been beaten up in Minny maybe I'd be a little more worried but I think we catch them off guard tonight.
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If the Pack get up then I would worry about the Eagles chances because they don't need Farve to get into a groove. I'm hoping the Eagles D can force turnovers like the Rams D did last night. I think Farve is worth at least one INT because he tends to get greedy at times when he shouldn't (and Andy knows this having worked with him in the past).
I would look at the Under as a possibility too. If GB wants to win tonight they will have to pound Green at least 20-25 times (I think) and the Birds will HAVE to have success with Westbrook and Staley. They also NEED to get the tight ends involved because our tight ends match up well with their linebackers and safeties. Plus Al Harris is worth one big pass interference call or bad coverage per game (I know this all too well).
Jumbo good luck (except tonight). I will wholeheartedly agree with you that NU sucks!!! Too bad PSU sucks more this year.
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I would look at the Under as a possibility too. If GB wants to win tonight they will have to pound Green at least 20-25 times (I think) and the Birds will HAVE to have success with Westbrook and Staley. They also NEED to get the tight ends involved because our tight ends match up well with their linebackers and safeties. Plus Al Harris is worth one big pass interference call or bad coverage per game (I know this all too well).
Jumbo good luck (except tonight). I will wholeheartedly agree with you that NU sucks!!! Too bad PSU sucks more this year.
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well the turnovers, special units and second half philly defense won us some cash tonight. there is something about these flat spots, no matter how flat they are. thank you for your opinions guys and good luck. ptw.
p.s. next week flat spot : carolina (i'm going with the redskins, but i will wait to see if it goes to at least 6½ and then i'll buy it up to 7.)
p.s. next week flat spot : carolina (i'm going with the redskins, but i will wait to see if it goes to at least 6½ and then i'll buy it up to 7.)
