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94 vote puts Kerry in tight spot
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 06/10/04 | Robert Novak


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'94 vote puts Kerry in tight spot

June 10, 2004

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Under attack by Republicans for proposing deep cuts in the intelligence budget a decade ago, John Kerry is trying to justify them as efforts to slice away pork. The problem is that during the Senate debate on Feb. 19, 1994, Kerry was taken to task by two pillars of the then Democratic majority: Dennis DeConcini of Arizona and Daniel Inouye of Hawaii.

DeConcini, the Intelligence Committee chairman, and Inouye, the Appropriations Defense subcommittee chairman, assailed Kerry's unsuccessful efforts to cut the intelligence budget. DeConcini calculated it would cost $1 billion in intelligence spending that year and $5 billion over the next five years. Both senators suggested Kerry did not recognize the dangers existing then after the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. In opposing Kerry's amendment, DeConcini declared, ''We no longer seem immune from acts of terrorism in the United States.'' Inouye asked: ''Is this the time to cut the satellite programs that give our forces warning of attacks?''

Since George W. Bush's re-election campaign has made this dispute an issue, Kerry has faced a choice. He could admit an error in past judgment, which is never easy or perhaps prudent for a presidential candidate. Or, he could defend what seems a politically vulnerable position. Kerry has taken the latter course. When this column asked about Kerry's past position this week, campaign spokesman Chad Clanton replied: ''You bet, John Kerry voted against business-as-usual in our intelligence community. It is no secret that we've got some serious problems with our intelligence.''

The issue, first raised by Bush in March, has been revived by published accusations that the president's campaign has distorted the senator's record. This is a question worth exploring because it addresses Kerry's judgment as an experienced public servant. His unfortunate charges of American war crimes in Vietnam can be excused as the excesses of an angry war veteran. In 1994, he had 10 years experience as a U.S. senator and was a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The defense by the campaign is that Kerry's proposed intelligence cuts were aimed at what ''was essentially a slush fund for defense contractors.'' Clanton added: ''Unlike George Bush, John Kerry does not support every special spending project supported by Halliburton and other defense contractors.''

While the Kerry campaign suggests the senator somehow foretold the 1995 ''slush fund'' scandal over the National Reconnaissance Office hoarding $1 billion in unspent funds, his amendment would have cut intelligence across the board.

In the floor debate, DeConcini said his committee had pruned the intelligence budget by $1.2 billion for that fiscal year, and that is ''as deep as the intelligence community can withstand.'' Noting imminent bombing in the Balkans, Inouye warned ''we are putting blindfolds over our pilots' eyes.''

In the debate, Kerry did not respond to criticism from DeConcini and Inouye. He did not address intelligence specifically, much less single out pork in the intelligence budget that his campaign now says he was targeting. However, 10 days earlier on the Senate floor, Kerry declared: ''The madness must end.''

Kerry's amendment failed 75-20 -- opposed by his Massachusetts colleague, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy; a future Intelligence Committee chairman, Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, and the Appropriations Committee chairman, Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

The senator is described by aides as attempting to restore human intelligence to learn about terrorism, drug trafficking and international crime. But at an Intelligence Committee meeting in 1995, Kerry asked ''whether we should use paid clandestine human assets in situations where the ramifications of discovery are so great and the risk of U.S. security is so minimal.''

Such suspicion of human intelligence had been the liberal line since the early 1970s, grinding down CIA assets. Indeed, Kerry's assault on intelligence spending had been urged by liberals for the past quarter of a century. The presidential candidate now attempts to rationalize his past conduct rather than repudiate it.
 

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That's ok, because with Kerry I'd have a chance at some government sponsored health care and the lobotomy would be covered.
 

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Pat,

In retrospect, a mistake. Just like in retrospect it was a mistake for Ashcroft to insist on the FBI de-emphasizing anti-terrorism as a priority.

Like I've said a hundred times before, show me one speech, one quote where Bush ever mentioned publicly any of the following phrases before 9/11?

Al Qaeda
Osama Bin Laden
War on Terror
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
He was in office 8 mos. when it happened.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"in office"????

is that counting the o-so-incompenent one's record amount of presidential vacation days?
 

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Bush says he is doing "god's will". If that does'nt scare the shit out of you then go see Fahrenheit 9/11 and get educated. Movie opens June 25.
 

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Pat: "He was in office 8 months when it happened".

Mud: True, and he'd already been on vaction for one month when it did. But, if you listen to all right wing revisionists, Clinton didn't do anything about terrorism. So if Bush is doing such a great job persecuting war on terror, why didn't he bring it up and criticize Clinton Admin on lack of action prior to 9/11? After all, Clinton was so ineffectual.

Real answer: It was not on Bush's radar screen. His main focus was 2 things: Tax cuts and stop nation building of naive Clinton admin.

Prove me wrong...
 

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This title just pisses me off every time I read it. What kind of democracy do we live in if we have people make rude comments like this on our choices. Typical right-wing attitude right now. They took cheap shots at Spaniards for voting their conscience and if they lose they will take some cheap shots at Americans too. Whoever anyone votes for I will respect and whoever is chosen I will say is my President and hope he does well in his job. When will the right-wingers remember that Bush said he was going to install class and honor and do the same in respecting Americans with different opinions than theirs?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
This title just pisses me off every time I read it. What kind of democracy do we live in if we have people make rude comments like this on our choices. Typical right-wing attitude right now. They took cheap shots at Spaniards for voting their conscience and if they lose they will take some cheap shots at Americans too. Whoever anyone votes for I will respect and whoever is chosen I will say is my President and hope he does well in his job. When will the right-wingers remember that Bush said he was going to install class and honor and do the same in respecting Americans with different opinions than theirs?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WildBill, would you mind showing me where you defended Bush against rude comments made by those on this board and in public office?
 

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Why? I am not saying rude comments can't be made either way about the candidates because that is politics. What I am saying is that people that choose to vote shouldn't be subjected to a rude comment like "you need a lobotomy if you vote for Kerry". A right to vote is still one of our great rights and we should never belittle others for using it, no matter who they choose or for what reasons.
 

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Anyone who votes for Bush needs a forced emema!

Clean out all the shit in the brains.

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Sure could use a trim
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
Why? I am not saying rude comments can't be made either way about the candidates because that is politics. What I am saying is that people that choose to vote shouldn't be subjected to a rude comment like "you need a lobotomy if you vote for Kerry". A right to vote is still one of our great rights and we should never belittle others for using it, no matter who they choose or for what reasons.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry Bill, I assumed you were talking about the article's headline and not Patriot's editorial title. I disagree with you on not belittling others for voting no matter what; many people are ignorant of the issues and will vote using incredibly stupid reasons (he's got nice hair...he's from Texas...he fought in Vietnam). Others have an agenda and vote for a candidate that way (she's a woman...he's black). In my opinion those that think this way would serve America better by staying home watching Springer than voting.
 

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“many people are ignorant of the issues and will vote using incredibly stupid reasons”

OK so I’m incredibly stupid. Bush says he is doing God’s Will, likewise Bin Laden says he is doing God’s Will. I would as much vote for Bin Laden as I would for Bush.

Anyone who is so arrogant that he uses the argument that he is killing thousands of innocent people because it is God’s Will deserves to be put somewhere that they can be watched 24 hours a day. Like a padded cell.
 

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vote for kerry if you want cures for alzheimer, parkinson, stroke, paralysis, als, cancer and so on. federally embryoinc stem cell research is blocked by this moron because he believes a clump of 5 day old cells, that will be thrown out, are worth more than the 1 out of 2 americans who will suffer from the diseases/disorders.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jimmymak:
OK so I’m incredibly stupid. Bush says he is doing God’s Will, likewise Bin Laden says he is doing God’s Will. I would as much vote for Bin Laden as I would for Bush.

Anyone who is so arrogant that he uses the argument that he is killing thousands of innocent people because it is God’s Will deserves to be put somewhere that they can be watched 24 hours a day. Like a padded cell.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice to see you admit being stupid, although I would have made my judgement quickly after you compared Bush with Bin Laden. Do you care to show the source of the quote where Bush says it is God's Will that he kills thousands of innocent people?
 

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In other words Shotgun the Constitution should be changed to only people with a good reason to voice their opinion should be allowed??? That is ridiculous, it is a democracy and a vote is a vote. I don't care if it is an idiot or a Nobel prize winner, the country was founded on the principle that we are all equal when it comes to our vote. How can you question the integrity of our system just because you don't like the opinions or the IQ of someone else? Once again take all the shots your want at Kerry or Bush, but for goodness sakes we must respect the sanctity of our democracy and never encourage people to stay home on election day just because we may not like the way they vote.
 

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WILDBILL, I invite you to roll a fatt one and take a couple of puffs.

(then pass it over here!)

Meanwhile, consider the source of your ire here.

Patriot and I obviously see most politics differently.

But we do share the enjoyment of a Topic subject or other wording that has a bit of Shock Value.

Remember too, that PAT is the kind of writer who said earlier this week, "NOBODY WANTS NATIONAL HEALTH CARE".

When of course, tens of millions of Americans want some form of national health care.

Does that mean we are the majority on this issue? Actually, it appears we're not.

But it's a sloppy use of the word NOBODY, much like I bet he really meant to say, Anyone Who VOtes For Kerry Needs Their Head Examined...not actual invasive surgery...right Pat?

(Passing the spliff to YOU, now, in the interest of overall peace)
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Barman put that out and give it to me I need to confiscate that as "evidence".
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