Ann Coulter on the Fifth Estate

[xpanda]

Last night, the CBC aired a special on the division in American media. All the idiots were interviewed, including O'Reilly, Coulter, Donahue and Franken. Franken cried, O'Reilly told people to SHUT UP! and Coulter, well, she's a real bîtch, eh?

Anyway, here's the fun part: when discussing Canada's apparent disloyalty to the US, Coulter claimed that we had previously always been a staunch ally, joining the US in WWII and Vietnam. Now, let's be clear first that Canada was in WWII three years before the US. She didn't seem to know that. Next, as any good Canada-basher would already know, we did not, actually, send troops to Vietnam. In fact, we were the draft-dodger's destination of choice. Including Clinton.

The look on her face when this was all pointed out to her (though she told the interviewer that he was wrong three times) was a beautiful moment.

No, you stupid cuckoo, we've been sovereign for quite some time, making our own decisions and all that other freedom-loving, democracy-waging liberty stuff that she touts ad nauseum.

Was too much fun not to share. :>Grin>

 

[Berlino]

More Coulter on Canada:

"T<!--StartFragment -->hey (Canada) better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent."

Now I understand. There's a need for balance. Since the US invaded Iraq to install democracy it's necessary to invade democratic Canada in order to set up a military dictatorship.

Her warped version of WW II history is not surprising, but still very sad.

 

[RobFunk]

Ann's parents didnt hit her enough

 

[eek.]

Ann's parents didnt hit her enough

hehe

The scary bit is that she appeals to a broad base of viewers who are just like herself. Completely clueless.

 

[SENDITIN]

Hey Pepper,


Go visit the "North Wall" in Windsor Ontario and find out how many Canadians didn't serve as our ally in Vietnam. Thousands of Canadians enlisted in the US forces. And Canada's industries helped supply military equipment during the war. You guys were especially good at making napalm. So give Annie her props...

 

[Berlino]

Thousands of Canadians enlisted in the US forces.

Heavens, where did they find the time? According to conservative commentator Tucker Carlson they're all too busy dogsledding.

And Canada's industries helped supply military equipment during the (Vietnam) war.

Yes, and shortages of ammunition are CURRENTLY forcing the US to purchase bullets from Canada. Does this mean Canada is supporting the invasion of Iraq? If so poor Annie now has one less reason to be mad.

So give Annie her props...

A conservative has already done it quite well.

http://www.coulterwatch.com/files/01J-Call_for_Character.pdf

"Ann Coulter is an exemplar of hypocrisy, not Conservatism."


"An 'ideological purist' who compromises her principles. A pro-lifer who hates the living. An upholder of truth who lies."


Coulter’s “mass of contradictions” – psychiatric “cognitive dissonance,” Orwellian “doublethink,” biblical “hypocrisy” – has become so pronounced as to be unthinkable, unbelievable. Believe it!


But if you still insist that Annie get her props I will say that she sells a lot of books. Just like Budweiser sells a lot of beers.

 

[xpanda]

Hey Pepper,


Go visit the "North Wall" in Windsor Ontario and find out how many Canadians didn't serve as our ally in Vietnam. Thousands of Canadians enlisted in the US forces. And Canada's industries helped supply military equipment during the war. You guys were especially good at making napalm. So give Annie her props...

She said "Canada joined us in Vietnam."

She's flat-out wrong. If some Canadians cross the border and fight with you guys, that's hardly the same thing. Get a grip.

You know, thusands of Americans crossed the border and fought alongside us in WWII. But history doesn't say "The US joined Canada immediately."

Does it?

(nice to see you again, btw.)

 

[bblight]

Geez - Canada made several billion selling arms to the US during the Vietnam war - and Canada was the US spy in the ICC during the conflict - so Canada played a duplicitous role in the whole Vietnam affair by taking in American criminals on one hand while supporting the US in the war on the other hand.

And to their everlasting shame, the Canadians treated their Vietnam Vets like criminals, and actually ostracized families that lost loved ones in Vietnam - their excuse being that the Canadian Vietnam Vets never served in the Canadian Armed Forces.

I hear Canadians justifying such actions by saying that their boys should never have nelisted in the US forces - these are the same hypocrites who ignore the fact that twice as many US citizens joined the Canadian military to fight in WWII up to three or four years before the US got into the war.

 

[xpanda]

Nothing you say in any way makes Coulter's idiocy better. If she's going to be a bigmouthed pundit, sit with a Canadian interviewer, and spew off about our great alliance and how we're traitors now using our 'sending troops to Vietnam' as her benchmark, I would expect her to know at least as much as us average joes about what went down in Vietnam.

And I doubt that the people protesting Vietnam were the 'same hypocrites who blah blah blah.' Just doing the math, I don't think the 50-year-old post-WWII vets and bystanders were in the protesting mood by the time the 60s rolled around. Besides, they were two very different wars.

 

[mudbone]

I always get a kick out of ignorant right wingers talking about how Canada has abandoned us in Iraq. As I have pointed out many times before, Candian military personnel were among the first casuaties in Afghanistan fighting side by side with American troops. In fact, one of the first casualty reporting from Canadian military was due to "friendly fire" incident where Americans mistakenly bombed Canadians.

For a moment, let's go back to WWII when Canadians died along their British and American counterparts on DDay in Normandy (plz read noted American author/historian Stephen Ambrose books DDay and Citizen Soldier - don't take my word for it). It's apparent that Canadians generally supported us except for Iraq, which they correctly did not believe to be the imminent threat the Bush Admin claimed it was.

Now for a minute , put yourself in a Canadian parent's shoes who has just lost a son in Afghanistan due to Americans mistakenly bombing the wrong target whiile they steadfastly stood by our side against the Taliban. And then imagine listening to some imbecile like right wing Republican Anne Coulter claiming you and your country have showed disloyalty to the US.

Way to piss off one of our greatest allies, ever, Anne! What great fuckin diplomacy! What a piece of shvt...

 

[bblight]

I hope you don't think I was dissing the Canadians over Iraq - Canada is a sovereign nation who have their own manifest destiny.

I just have some deep feelings about the whole Vietnam thing and how the vets were treated - and many Canadians are just as guilty as their American counterparts concerning the mistreatment of returning Canadian Vietnam vets.

Treating a man like a criminal because you disagree with his ideology and his honor and his decision to serve is wrong!

As for the Canadian government - well, I wouldn't have a lot of good Canadian friends and neighbors if the policies of the Canadian government hadn't driven them out. That's called a brain drain!

 

[xpanda]

Poopy Diaper Pants can dish it out, but he can't take it.


http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/01/29/oreilly050129.html

Fox News host slams CBC documentary

Last Updated Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:05:50 EST
CBC News


TORONTO - Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly has lashed out at a CBC documentary featuring guests who were highly critical of his show.

• RELATED: The Fifth Estate

"Vicious attack on Fox News by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, totally out of any kind of bounds," said O'Reilly in his response Friday night to the Fifth Estate broadcast on Jan. 26. "How low will they go? We'll show you the tape and you won't believe it!" was another response found on the Fox News website.

The Fifth Estate's website says the documentary examines the "war of words that's pitting conservative against liberal."

"It's loud, it's raucous, but does it have anything to do with the truth?" the site asks about the new kind of hard-hitting political debate on U.S. television.

Journalists, media watchers and other talk show hosts in the documentary took aim at the O'Reilly Factor and show's relationship with the truth.

In turn, the host had two guests on his show who agreed with him about the CBC.

"The Canadian government gives them a billion dollars to put this sort of stuff on the air, and the Canadian government is really at fault here, isn't it?" O'Reilly said to one guest.

"You scare the hell out of them, Bill," the guest answered.

CBC refused an invitation to appear on O'Reilly's show Friday night, and O'Reilly refused to be interviewed for the Fifth Estate broadcast.

In the past, O'Reilly has called the CBC radically to the left, the Globe and Mail a "far-left newspaper," and Canadian health care "socialist."

He and his conservative colleagues say they're doing journalism that is fair and balanced.

The Fox News Channel is the highest-rated news network in the United States. In mid-December, Rogers Communications announced it had added Fox to its all-digital channel lineup, becoming the first in Canada to do so.

About 90% of the O'Reilly-related footage, btw, were clips of him on his show. He said the Globe and Mail was so left-wing that it was almost communist. I guess these clips are only pro-FNC when they're aired on FNC. Everywhere else, he's been taken out of context. [/rolleyes]

Poor misunderstood Bill.

 

[PatPatriot]

I saw the show.Sounds like the CBC hates competition. Bill O had clips from CBC with Al franken actually crying about something,I was to busy gagging.

 

[docmercer--banned]

I think of Coulter banging that Muslim boyfriend of hers and realize how special life is ....

 

[xpanda]

I saw the show.Sounds like the CBC hates competition. Bill O had clips from CBC with Al franken actually crying about something,I was to busy gagging.

I did call Franken one of the idiots that they interviewed. I should get points for that.

The CBC is notoriously critical. Despite what your perception is of publicly owned media, they're constantly on the ass of the gov't in power and each of the opposing parties. Your media, by contrast, doesn't seem to question all that much.

Besides, O'Reilly has been on Canadian media for a long time. This isn't about not liking competition, this is rising to the challenge of competition. If he wants to take us on (and to be sure, every time he mentions Canada, it's in a negative light,) we'll be happy to throw in our two cents. Good on the CBC for not letting his bullshít go unanswered.

 

[PatPatriot]

Thats fair enough.It will be interesting to watch.Keep in mind its all about the advertising dollar.Fox thinks there is a market up there.

Fox does good because it echoes what people really see for themselves and think.Thats what gets lost in acedemia.Kind of why Ted Williams the best hitter ever was a lousy mgr.He couldn't understand why his palyers couldn't hit .400 too.
Or in other words you should talk with the masses not at them....see John Kerry.

 

[quantumleap]

Even Republicans hate Ann Coulter.

 

[docmercer--banned]

It will be my luck and after the nukes hit the only women left will be Coulter ....

There aint enough alcohol on earth

 

[WHALE]

I don't think so !!! :drink: