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Last week's game I knew would be very rough for Florida, and they are fortunate to have escaped with a win at all.

Perhaps lucky isn't the applicable vocabulary here. I'm seeing it this way:

Against Arkansas, Florida was +4 in the turnover ratio (having forced 0), and just kept handing the Hogs momentum over and over again. We missed a short FG, dropped balls, and Tebow was demoralizingly sacked 6 times. And then we won the game.

Florida drops to #2 in the AP Poll, which doesn't matter whatsoever in terms of the BCS, but DOES matter in terms of media perception and how the athletes themselves perceive their team. How often have you heard "X team is cocky because they are #1" or "X team is hungry because they dropped in the polls?"

Miss St. will be the team to get the Gators back on track, a role which most people thought Arkansas would fill last week. They are very down this year, and don't mistake a win against MTSU for sparking the Bulldogs in any way. They have not looked good.

Mullen coming to Miss St after being the offensive coordinator at UF for years means that these coaches know each other very well. Some might think this nullifies any coaching advantage in this game, but I'll take the coach who has done almost nothing but win his whole career to outsmart the new head coach who may have been riding the first coaches' coattails his entire coaching career.

Florida was #2 in the country in turnover margin last year, and this year they are 77th and -2 in the margin. With almost the same team (or at least, the players who have fumbled thus far mostly being veterans) you better believe that the Gators will not continue to lose the turnover battle, and strictly speaking from a statistical probability standpoint, the number will be probably be moving to the plus soon.

Line opens at about the same number that a much much better Arkansas team did (-22). Many people will see this number and think there is no way that Florida will cover, that their last 3 games against quality SEC teams (basically not including Kentucky in last four) have been won by a total of 23 points. People will see Dan Mullen and think of his time at Florida and with Urban Meyer, and think that he will be able to play the Gators close, even at Mississippi State. People will think that Florida is losing confidence, that the Gators aren't as good as we all thought.

And the Gators will absolutely handle Mississippi State.

The number has a good chance of dropping to 21, so waiting might be appropriate, but all the way up to at least 24, take:

Florida -22
 

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Personally I don't see Miss. St scoring two touchdowns on a team who has given up a max of two td's to the better teams it has played.
 

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I like FL here but I don't like having to give that many points to any SEC team....whether it's Miss St. or Vandy or whoever...I think most people know that the SEC, from top to bottom, can bite you in the ass the very second you think a game is a "lock" or a gimme.

I see FL making their statement to the pollsters here, but I also see Miss. State seeing the AR game and figuring out they stopped that dive option that FL has pretty much lived on since Tebow has been the QB...that and that triple or quad option with the pass, pitch, shovel, or qb run. AR didn't really stop it, but they did fumble on that play 2 times I think. Once inside the 10 I think.

If I HAD to play either team, I'd play FL but I'll look at the points more in this one. I don't think FL puts that many on the board in this game to be honest but I don't see Miss. State putting many, if any, points up either. I could definately see a 28-10 game here. I think the under (assuming it's not crazy low) will be the better value in this game.
 

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It seems like flordia always loses to a SEC team each year. This might be it?????
 

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I don't think FL will have a let-down after last weeks "scare" or "near loss" whatever you want to call it. FL could have easily lost the game the game last week...they may have taken it as a wake-up call and go 12-0 this year in reg season. I don't think they beat Bama, but I also think that this game will be closer to a National Champ game than the game on Jan 8th or whenever it is.
 

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The SEC championship game winner will become a big factor in detrmining who will win the National Championship. They (the winner) will be in the "big game" and it will be their's to win (or lose). You can see it coming (Florida or Alabama).

But, one never knows for certain; that is the nature of college football.
 

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.they may have taken it as a wake-up call and go 12-0 this year in reg season.

Exactly. Florida seems to have "wake up calls" every year, in most cases the team wasn't good enough to escape those games with a win. This year the team is so good that their "wake up call" happened to also be a victory, albeit a narrow one.
 

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Exactly. Florida seems to have "wake up calls" every year, in most cases the team wasn't good enough to escape those games with a win. This year the team is so good that their "wake up call" happened to also be a victory, albeit a narrow one.

I still don't think they cover 22 pts though. I think Miss St. has a decent D (better than Arky anyway) and Miss St. holds FL to 21-24 points while scoring at least 3 or 7.
 

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A2Gator - Like the pick and think you are right-on in terms of public perception. Just have one question...Do you think that Meyer will have any problem keeping the pedal to the metal on Mullen should this be a 17-20 point game in the 4th quarter?
 
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I don't think there's any way Florida covers the 22. I've heard a lot of these same arguments before. When Florida played Tennessee. Remember that game? I believe the spread was around 30. I believe the final was 10. A lot of the same arguments there....

Don't get me wrong, I think Florida is the second best team in the country. Not just because they dropped to #2, I have thought all year Alabama was the best. I think Mississippi State matches up better than people think in this game. I think Florida wins, not necessarily close, but I think something like 10, 14, 17 is about right. But hey, just my opinion. GL everyone!
 

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I don't think there's any way Florida covers the 22. I've heard a lot of these same arguments before. When Florida played Tennessee. Remember that game? I believe the spread was around 30. I believe the final was 10. A lot of the same arguments there....

Don't get me wrong, I think Florida is the second best team in the country. Not just because they dropped to #2, I have thought all year Alabama was the best. I think Mississippi State matches up better than people think in this game. I think Florida wins, not necessarily close, but I think something like 10, 14, 17 is about right. But hey, just my opinion. GL everyone!

haha, well thats false, always a way , just score 22 more points<><>

just goofing, I like florida here tho, went against last 2 weeks and now its time to hit the gators!!!! gl on your selection
 

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Make all of the excuses you want... people just refuse to admit Florida is not that great this year. I will continue to win free money on them laying these ridiculous point spreads.
 
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haha, well thats false, always a way , just score 22 more points<><>

just goofing, I like florida here tho, went against last 2 weeks and now its time to hit the gators!!!! gl on your selection

Very true haha.... probably should have phrased that differently. Still, I think Miss St keeps it within 3 scores. Obviously the better athletes are on Florida's side, but no team is invincible. Until they DON'T win a national title, everyone will always think they are the best team in the country no matter what. Everyone makes these guys out to be absolute monster football players, and they fact is, they are human beings, just like the guys across from them.

Everyone wants a shot at Florida and, so far, with the exception of Kentucky, every worthy opponent has shown up to play. And no, I don't consider Charleston Southern or Troy worthy opponents. These close games for the Gators have shown everyone that teams can hang with them. Even if they don't win, they will be playing as hard as they can all the way until the clock says 00:00.

Again, please don't think I'm a hater. As you can see, I'm in the Big 12. I have no loyalty to any SEC team. I realize my Jayhawks would probably get clobbered by most of the teams in the SEC. I am just trying to offer an unbiased opinion as to why I think Miss St can cover, at home, against a team everyone has circled on their calendar.
 

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I still don't think they cover 22 pts though. I think Miss St. has a decent D (better than Arky anyway) and Miss St. holds FL to 21-24 points while scoring at least 3 or 7.

I don't agree with this at all. The last 3-4 games Arky has played they have been a totally different team on defense. This is not the same team that played Bama or UGA.

MSU is flat out horrid on defense and their OL is pretty marginal. Tyson Lee is prone to make bad passes and the key players on O are all frosh. More importantly, the game is at night. The biggest problem UF has in playing in MS is that the games are at 11am CT 99% of the time. This is a big problem for a traveling team and a team used to playing at 330 or later. With this out of the way look for UF to play well, esp considering last week. I do not think Meyer will RUTS on Mullen though so be wary of the backdoor.
 
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The biggest problem UF has in playing in MS is that the games are at 11am CT 99% of the time.

Strictly your opinion

I do not think Meyer will RUTS on Mullen though so be wary of the backdoor.

Backdoor is only assuming Florida is up enough to cover, and then allows a late score. I'm not convinced they will ever be up enough to cover. Like I said, not hating here, but will someone please give me a good reason as to why they think Florida is REALLY that good this year? Or as to why Florida can beat Alabama for that matter? Please give me something that hasn't already been said in this thread. I may have overlooked something so far this season, so I would love to hear a reason that I haven't already thought of...
 

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Strictly my opinion after watching Gator football for 20 years.

Also, I love how you completely discount anything UF has done. Are they playing great on O right now? No. But on D they will completely stone MSU. Do you really think MSU can score more than 10-13pts? I don't. So now you have to ask if UF can score 35 on MSU. UF left 24pts on the field in the first half alone against Arky, so I think most certainly UF can score 35 against MSU. MSU hasn't stopped anyone on defense all year long. Arky had been playing quite well on D the previous 2-3 weeks.

And we aren't talking about Bama yet, but aside from Louis Murphy, this is the exact same team that beat Bama last year.
 

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