An industry that dares not meet in the U.S.....Operators of overseas online casinos

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Toronto's tourism Web site promises warm spring weather and hundreds of great restaurants. But for a group of Internet gambling executives gathering today in Toronto, the absence of American law enforcement authorities may also be a big draw.

Operators of overseas online casinos--an industry with millions of American customers--are under threat of prosecution because much of what they do is illegal in the United States. According to legal experts and the organizers of the conference, called the Global Interactive Gaming Summit and Expo, the operators could face arrest if they entered the United States.

"They're exiles," I. Nelson Rose, a professor at Whittier Law School in California, said of Americans who have moved overseas to run Internet gambling sites. Although there may not be warrants for their arrest, Mr. Rose said, "they can't be sure." The Justice Department did not respond to questions about the legal status of operators of overseas online casinos
That the conference is being held outside the United States--even though nearly half of all online bets are placed by people in the United States--shows the legal tangle the industry faces.

The federal government contends that, under the Wire Wager Act, it is illegal to offer sports wagering over the Internet. And the Interactive Gaming Council, a trade association for online casinos, has in the last several months asked five online sports betting sites to resign their memberships.

Legal experts said that while it is not clear whether federal law forbids forms of gambling other than sports betting, many states make all online gambling illegal.

Keith Furlong, deputy director of the council, said lawmakers might be more flexible on the issue of legalizing online casino gambling than sports betting, given the federal law.

"This was a political decision dictated by the U.S. market," Furlong said of the move to drop sports sites from the organization. He added that the council's members felt "they would have more success advocating for" licensing of casino gambling without being hampered by the question of sports wagering.

Online casinos are legal in some countries, among them Britain and Costa Rica, where many sports betting operations are based. Indeed, the World Trade Organization ruled in March that the United States was in violation of its free trade obligations by prohibiting Internet gambling.

Still, United States law enforcement officials have tried to slow the growth of online gambling. Last year, the Justice Department began a grand jury investigation of American companies that provide advertising and other services to offshore online casinos. Many broadcasters and several major Web sites, like Yahoo and Google, have since decided to stop running advertising for online casinos.

The conference organizers said they would discuss the growing number of roadblocks to their business. One of the biggest challenges, they said, is how to develop online payment mechanisms that make it easier for gamblers to place bets. Many American banks no longer allow credit cards they issue to be used for Internet bets because it is not clear that wagering debts would be enforceable, legal experts said.

Still, some participants are confident that the industry can overcome the legal and banking obstacles.

"I am very, very, very keen on hearing views on how we might swing towards regulation and recognition in North America," said David Carruthers, the chief executive of BetOnSports.com, a site that took some 33 million bets last year, 97 percent of them from the United States. Carruthers said he wanted to begin forging alliances to improve the industry's lobbying efforts in the United States.

Carruthers, who is British, said he traveled frequently to the United States and was not worried about being arrested. In fact, he is scheduled to speak to a gathering of the National Council of Legislators from Gaming States in New Mexico in June.

Whittier Law School's Rose said the people at risk for prosecution are American citizens who operate online sports casinos overseas and then return to the United States. He noted that the United States and China recently signed a treaty that could allow Americans who break gambling laws to be extradited from China.

There have been a few prosecutions of American operators of overseas casinos. In 1998, Jay Cohen, an American citizen who set up an online sports betting operation in Antigua, was charged with violating the Wire Wager Act. In 2000, after he returned to the United States to fight the charge, he was convicted in federal court and sentenced to 21 months in prison.

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Let me get this straight. If I leave the US and open an offshore gaming site, then I am a possible candidate for jail if I go back to the states? What if one ceases the business before re-entry to the states?
 

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Since they cant get the players...looks like they are going after the owners..
 

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It is all they can really do. The Wire Act only covers gaming operators and they would have a hard job proving a Brit operating in Costa Rica was subject to a US law intended for US soil. For these reasons I know almost all Americans have a "stage" name and bring in local partners for show.
 

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General--you have a good question. My guess is that you would have to give up your US citizenship first before starting the business in another country. Then maybe re-apply for citizenship of the US later? Man you would need 10 lawyers to figure that one out!
 

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OMT,

You sure like to make things complicated don't you?
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What is wrong with what I suggested? That is what goes on at a lot of places and no one thinks twice about it anymore. If Jay Cohen just worked under the name Larry George or whatever he probably never would have faced a legitimate indictment and conviction. After the Cohen trial most guys wised up and went to these simple methods to avoid getting put on the next list of DOJ targets.
 

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I see what you're saying there--Wild Man!
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Never realized it was easy to use another name (false name ) in another country. That might come back to "bite" if someone wanted to make life miserable. Also, didn't know it would be that easy to use a fake name in Antigua or elsewhere. Just never thought about it. The funny part is to think Jay Cohen went through all that he endured just to eat a US hamburger again.
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That's what he once said--I think in jest. When all is said and done--he is owed a debt of gratitude by others!
 

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What I still can't understand is why a supposedly free country behaves like this.

You would think Bush & the Crazy Gang 'd have their hands full with Iraq and the election.
 

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