American Healthcare System Not What Obambi Says

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Medical care in the United States is derided as miserable compared to health care systems in the rest of the developed world. Economists, government officials, insurers, and academics beat the drum for a far larger government role in health care. Much of the public assumes that their arguments are sound because the calls for change are so ubiquitous and the topic so complex. Before we turn to government as the solution, however, we should consider some unheralded facts about America’s health care system.
1. Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the United Kingdom and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher.
2. Americans have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians. Breast cancer mortality in Canada is 9 percent higher than in the United States, prostate cancer is 184 percent higher, and colon cancer among men is about 10 percent higher.
3. Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed countries. Some 56 percent of Americans who could benefit from statin drugs, which reduce cholesterol and protect against heart disease, are taking them. By comparison, of those patients who could benefit from these drugs, only 36 percent of the Dutch, 29 percent of the Swiss, 26 percent of Germans, 23 percent of Britons, and 17 percent of Italians receive them.
4. Americans have better access to preventive cancer screening than Canadians. Take the proportion of the appropriate-age population groups who have received recommended tests for breast, cervical, prostate, and colon cancer:

  • Nine out of ten middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to fewer than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent).
  • Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a Pap smear, compared to fewer than 90 percent of Canadians.
  • More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a prostatespecific antigen (PSA) test, compared to fewer than one in six Canadians (16 percent).
  • Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with fewer than one in twenty Canadians (5 percent).
5. Lower-income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians. Twice as many American seniors with below-median incomes self-report “excellent” health (11.7 percent) compared to Canadian seniors (5.8 percent). Conversely, white, young Canadian adults with below-median incomes are 20 percent more likely than lower-income Americans to describe their health as “fair or poor.”
6. Americans spend less time waiting for care than patients in Canada and the United Kingdom. Canadian and British patients wait about twice as long—sometimes more than a year—to see a specialist, have elective surgery such as hip replacements, or get radiation treatment for cancer. All told, 827,429 people are waiting for some type of procedure in Canada. In Britain, nearly 1.8 million people are waiting for a hospital admission or outpatient treatment.
7. People in countries with more government control of health care are highly dissatisfied and believe reform is needed. More than 70 percent of German, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and British adults say their health system needs either “fundamental change” or “complete rebuilding.”
8. Americans are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians. When asked about their own health care instead of the “health care system,” more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared with only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).
9. Americans have better access to important new technologies such as medical imaging than do patients in Canada or Britain. An overwhelming majority of leading American physicians identify computerized tomography (CT) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) as the most important medical innovations for improving patient care during the previous decade—even as economists and policy makers unfamiliar with actual medical practice decry these techniques as wasteful. The United States has thirty-four CT scanners per million Americans, compared to twelve in Canada and eight in Britain. The United States has almost twenty-seven MRI machines per million people compared to about six per million in Canada and Britain.
10. Americans are responsible for the vast majority of all health care innovations. The top five U.S. hospitals conduct more clinical trials than all the hospitals in any other developed country. Since the mid- 1970s, the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology has gone to U.S. residents more often than recipients from all other countries combined. In only five of the past thirty-four years did a scientist living in the United States not win or share in the prize. Most important recent medical innovations were developed in the United States.
Despite serious challenges, such as escalating costs and care for the uninsured, the U.S. health care system compares favorably to those in other developed countries.
<hr align="center" noshade="noshade" size="1" width="600"> This essay appeared on the website of the National Center for Policy Analysis on March 24, 2009. An earlier version was published in the Washington Times.
 

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You know Zit, I wake up every day and feel damn lucky I live in the USA. :103631605
 

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sorry zit but according to punter the only applicable statistic regarding healthcare is newborn death rates

of course he can't comprehend that american's lifestyle choices (obesity, eating foods with massive amounts of chemicals, heavy drug usage, etc) play right into the newborn death rate and it's not simply because healthcare needs overhauling
 
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sorry zit but according to punter the only applicable statistic regarding healthcare is newborn death rates

of course he can't comprehend that american's lifestyle choices (obesity, eating foods with massive amounts of chemicals, heavy drug usage, etc) play right into the newborn death rate and it's not simply because healthcare needs overhauling


Who listens to anything Punter says?

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right KB, they don't have the drug use, obesity, extremely poor inner cities residents living off of welfare, 20 million illegals, inner city crime...........................................

it's more about a lifestyle than a health care system
 

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not so bad for a nation with the burdens we have, looks like 5 nations have a slightly higher life expectancy.
 

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right KB, they don't have the drug use, obesity, extremely poor inner cities residents living off of welfare, 20 million illegals, inner city crime...........................................

it's more about a lifestyle than a health care system
Stop using facts and logic.:laugh:
 

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right KB, they don't have the drug use, obesity, extremely poor inner cities residents living off of welfare, 20 million illegals, inner city crime...........................................

it's more about a lifestyle than a health care system

How do you think we learn about a healthier lifestyle? From the Insurance Companies?

Health Canada is probably one of the most educational government agencies we have. Tonnes of free health education.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/index-eng.php

The food and Nutrition is a good one
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/index-eng.php

But to be fare we have drug abuse and a few extremely poor inner cities. Of course we don't have the same level of violent crime.

20 Million Illegal immigrants seems high, that's about 6% of your population. We don't have that many people living here undocumented. Of course I couldn't get a deck built paying $5 an hour either.
 

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Canadians must be doing something right

yep

however, the 'ideal system' likely falls somewhere in the middle of private and public. When too much weight lies in the money driven private care you run the risk of falling to the ills of the USA system, in dire need of repair. However, citizens under public care are at the mercy of the system.

a fine line, no doubt. Most Canadians have no idea how lucky they have it, yet they complain.
 

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Canadians must be doing something right

U.S. numbers are lower because of all the preemies we try to save that other countries throw into the trash...and/ or do not count in the first place.

The health of our larger minority populations and new immigrants pulls down many of the other numbers.

But very useful for making charts that mislead. :103631605
 

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U.S. numbers are lower because of all the preemies we try to save that other countries throw into the trash...and/ or do not count in the first place.

The health of our larger minority populations and new immigrants pulls down many of the other numbers.

But very useful for making charts that mislead. :103631605

have a link for this? or just opinion?

thks in advance
 

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.... all the preemies we try to save that other countries throw into the trash...and/ or do not count in the first place.

And since these hypothetical "preemies" aren't accurately documented, they're handy for creating Imaginary Stats.
 

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U.S. numbers are lower because of all the preemies we try to save that other countries throw into the trash...and/ or do not count in the first place.

The health of our larger minority populations and new immigrants pulls down many of the other numbers.

But very useful for making charts that mislead. :103631605

Are you accusing Canadians of throwing pre-mature babies in the trash. Sick Fuck
 

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And since these hypothetical "preemies" aren't accurately documented, they're handy for creating Imaginary Stats.

Next time MJ, just preface by saying

"Can't verify it yet"

you know barfriend, you and I have to teach these guys everything
 

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have a link for this? or just opinion?

thks in advance

I don't think there is much argument that the U.S. supports much more of an immigrant and minority population than most other countries.
 

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Are you accusing Canadians of throwing pre-mature babies in the trash. Sick Fuck

I'm a sick fuck for pointing out that other countries do not care about pre-mature babies?

Maybe in the mind of a demented left winger...caring about babies has never been too high on your list.

I admit I don't know about Canada...I tend to think of Canadians as pretty good people.

And I didn't single out Canada but it's fair to think I was based on my response to the graph.

In general...these statistics are used to run down US health care by the left...and they find it very easy to skew the stats using the type of examples I mentioned.

That's just the truth.
 

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I'm a sick fuck for pointing out that other countries do not care about pre-mature babies?

Maybe in the mind of a demented left winger...caring about babies has never been too high on your list.

I admit I don't know about Canada...I tend to think of Canadians as pretty good people.

And I didn't single out Canada but it's fair to think I was based on my response to the graph.

In general...these statistics are used to run down US health care by the left...and they find it very easy to skew the stats using the type of examples I mentioned.

That's just the truth.

We're talking about Canadians and the chart above. I understood it as you saying Canadians toss premature babies in the trash...if you didn't mean to insinuate that I accept your apology.
 

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I don't think there is much argument that the U.S. supports much more of an immigrant and minority population than most other countries.

that is not my query

my query, again is:

you stated the following-- "The health of our larger minority populations and new immigrants pulls down many of the other numbers"

you belivee that the immigrants coming to USA are of poor health compared to the natives and hence 'bring down US health care' data relative to other industrial countries

i'm asking do you have numerical data to support this?

thks
 

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