amazes me how brutal people can be

[gtc08]

dont think ive read something this bad


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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
January 29, 2009

MELBOURNE, Australia - A man pulled over on a highway bridge, took his 4-year-old daughter out of the car and dropped her over the side to her death Thursday in Australia's second-largest city, police said.

Arthur Freeman, 36, of Melbourne was later charged with the murder of 4-year-old Darcey Iris Freeman. But he did not appear in court because police said he was psychologically unfit to do so. A magistrate ordered him to be held in custody while an investigation continues. He faces a maximum life sentence if convicted.

Police did not allege a motive.

Police and court officials said the man was involved in custody battle with his wife over the couple's three children, and had appeared in a family court on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The two other children, boys aged 6 and 8, may have been in Freeman's SUV when he allegedly pulled over on the West Gate Bridge in morning peak-hour traffic and dropped the girl 190 feet (58 meters) into the Yarra River, said Detective Inspector Steve Clark.

Stunned witnesses called police, who were able pull her from the river within 10 minutes of receiving the alert. She was barely alive, with multiple internal injuries, Clark said. She was flown by helicopter to Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital, which said she died about four hours after the fall.

"It's a dreadful set of circumstances," Clark told reporters. "Often you think you've seen it all but you haven't."

About an hour later, Freeman was arrested with the two surviving children outside the family court, where witnesses described him as visibly distressed, Clark said.

Clark said the children's mother had been informed but did not give details.

The names of the victim and suspect were cited in court, but authorities have not released names of other members of the family.

Police originally did not identify either the suspect or victim as is common in Australia with cases involving children, but their names were cited later in court.

The alleged murder happened about 9 a.m. on the bridge, an eight-lane freeway that is the main trunk road from downtown Melbourne to the west.

A court official, who declined to be named because she was not authorized to speak to the media, said the custody hearing over the children had ended Wednesday without a ruling because the parents had agreed to share access.

The tragedy shocked Australia, leading news national bulletins and prompting an outpouring of sympathy.

"I just shuddered when I heard about it," Victoria state Premier John Brumby told reporters. "You just think, how can that happen?"

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Every week there is something like this. I try not to read this shit as it will truly ruin your view of humanity over time. Just like reading a story a few days ago where a little 3 year old was killed by her parents even after she pleaded with her mother by telling her "she loved her" in the middle of the abuse. How anyone could hurt a child much less kill them is beyond my comprehensions. Makes you feel as if we are nothing but a bunch of intelligent beasts.

 

[punter]

It may be a tribute to mankind that it dosent happen more often.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

It may be a tribute to mankind that it dosent happen more often.

I disagree. For what we are capable of, its perplexing that people will do these types of things, regardless of how fucked up you are. We need some fucking vigilantism.

 

[tiznow]

Makes you feel as if we are nothing but a bunch of intelligent beasts.

we are

also "intelligent" can defined in many ways

the human mind causes us to do many things most other species in the the wild won't do like kill our own for stupid reasons beyond survival.....like in nature some kids are eaten outta necessity....but in general there isn't much unkindness that goes on inter species males might fight over a chick that sorta shit but......

i'd say cockroaches are very "intelligent" in that their ability to survive as a species for so long over the course of evolution is quite amazing

 

[fletchisrhsm]

we are

also "intelligent" can defined in many ways

i'd say cockroaches are very "intelligent" in that their ability to survive as a species over the course of evolution is quite amazing

Intelligence has nothing to do with roaches survival. Natural selection has been kind to them, but for a good reason, they are so diversified and hardy, and that has nothing to do with intelligence directly. That is nature.

 

[tiznow]

Cockroaches Found as Intelligent as Dogs!
They form Pavlovian reflexes

Cockroaches are really persistent, and so hardy that researchers found they were the only organisms that can survive in an area after atomic experiments.

Now, Japanese researchers were amazed with a new finding on these disgusting insects: they have a memory enabling them to
form Pavlovian reflexes. They taught cockroaches to salivate in response to neutral stimuli like the Russian scientist Pavlov did a century ago with dogs.

Forming conditioned reflexes requires memory and learning capacity, abilities linked to intelligence, and this kind of salivating response was only previously proven in humans, apes, dogs and other mammals.

Now, cockroaches are proven to possess the same abilities through this research that aims to decode more about the human brain by investigating what's going on in the simpler and easier-to-study cockroach brain. "Understanding the brain mechanism of learning in insects can help us to understand the functionings in the human brain. There are many, many common characteristics," said Makoto Mizunami, of Tohoku University's Graduate School of Life Sciences.

In their tests, the Japanese researchers exposed the cockroaches to an odor whenever they fed them with a sugary solution. When they exposed the cockroaches to the odor alone, after several repetitions, the insects still drooled. Cockroaches fed on sugary solutions without the odor did not display the salivary conditioned reflex when exposed to the smell. "Sure, cockroaches can remember and learn," Mizunami said.

In his 1890s experiments, Pavlov discovered the "classical conditioning" with dogs who associated food with bell calls. After a few repetitions, they formed the salivary reflex in response to the bell.

But with all the current scientific advances, there is still little knowledge on the neural mechanisms that induce such complex reflexes and behaviors. "In the cockroach's brain, there are many, many neurons and we have to find which neuron is actually responsible for this learning. We believe that it is very important to study a simple system to very precisely determine what is happening during learning. We hope it is at least in part applicable to humans," Mizunami said.

 

[ScottL]

I wish I didn't open this thread.

Would someone please post something uplifting now. Preferably something that I can't disprove by going to Snopes. TIA

 

[tiznow]

I wish I didn't open this thread.

Would someone please post something uplifting now. Preferably something that I can't disprove by going to Snopes. TIA

The History of the Bra – An Uplifting Story

Wed, 09/10/2008 - 09:12 — Gareth Marples <!-- google_ad_section_start -->The history of the bra is indeed an uplifting story. And the facts here are backed with lots of support. These facts will keep you abreast of the lives and times of bras. There’s nothing to hide, so we’re revealing all the facts. There’s nothing unmentionable in this history. We’ll be up front with you when we present this interesting story. So let’s snap to reality and fill our cups with knowledge.
Ancient Greek bras – now you see them, now you don’t

Around 2500 B.C., breasts were being admired. And that’s no surprise when you look at the men’s view of the women of those days. They adored them. In fact, they all but worshipped them. And the women, in tribute to all this attention, wore bras that lifted their breasts so much that they exposed them in all their splendor (at least, that’s how the men saw them).
Later, as Greek and Roman society grew more male-oriented, breasts were wrapped and flattened to minimize their size. And not only the women, but the men, too. But a pattern had started to develop – the use of bras changed with men’s attitudes towards the female bosom.
This pattern continued throughout the ages, with breasts being bared, or not, in exact ratio to men’s attitudes of the times. Women were at the mercy of the fashion of the day – usually decided by men.
19th Century Paris brought upstart women

During the 19th century, women were starting to “stand up” for themselves. They were tired of being told what they should or shouldn’t wear. They wanted freedom, and that included their fashion styles. So women began a movement for more comfortable underwear than the trussed and bound look of the corsets of the day. And as these new creations came on the market, patents ran wild. Since granting the first patent for a 'corset substitute' in 1863, the U.S. government has registered over 1,200 patents of breast supporters. That’s a lot of support for bras.
One example of those patents came in 1893 when Marie Tucek patented the “breast supporter”, which had separate pockets for the breasts, with straps over the shoulders, and fastened by hook-and-eye closures at the back. Sound pretty much like the bras of today, doesn’t it?
Another 19th-century development was “falsies”. The first ones were pads made of wool, which were put inside the boned bodice. Later in that century, French women were able to buy rubber breast pads, called “lemon bosoms” – their name describes them well. Padded bras were now accepted.
The modern bra emerges

1913 saw the debut of the first modern brassiere. It was created by Mary Phelps Jacobs, who got so annoyed at the bones of her corset sticking out around her neckline that she covered them with a couple of silk handkerchiefs and some ribbon and attached it all together with some cords. Her friends loved the idea and those who expressed their admiration of this lightweight fashion were given one to try out.


Many people asked her to share her idea, but when she got a letter from a stranger, with a dollar and a request for her “contraption”, she drew the line. She immediately sent sketches of her design to the patent office. The patent was granted in November, 1914 for the “Backless Brassiere”. Mary named her new creation the Caresse Crosby. The bra was here to stay (even though it didn’t have stays, like the corset).


But Mary’s talents were in fashion design, not business, and she had a hard time managing her venture. So she decided to sell her patent to Warner Brothers Corset Company for $1,500. That turned out to be a pretty good investment for Warner because, over the next 30 years, it earned the company over $15 million.
The bra joins a line of intimate apparel

Up until the creation of the bra, “intimate apparel” had consisted of heavily-boned, tight-laced corsets. They may have been recognized as intimate to the men, but the women found them extremely uncomfortable. The bra brought with it a whole new attitude to women’s underwear. It was indeed now an item of intimate apparel.


Mary Jacobs had started the ball rolling. Innovations began to develop as women found their new freedom of movement very liberating. A bra, girdle and stockings were a very sexy look, and gave women a new self-confidence. Then, with the introduction of elastic fabric in the 1920s, the bra industry took off. In the 1930’s, the strapless or backless bra came out. And then it was the standardization of cup sizes – now women could get a bra that truly fit comfortably.


The woman who was responsible for sized bras was Ida Rosenthal, a Russian-Jewish immigrant. Her creation eventually turned into the start of one of the most well-known intimate apparel companies today – Maidenform.


During the roaring Twenties, with it’s flat-chested boyish look, Ida Rosenthal’s invention wasn’t too popular. However, Ida had spunk, and she continued to promote her bust-flattering bras. With her idea of sizing, she could now market bras to girls and women of every age, from puberty to maturity. A huge advantage to this plan was brand loyalty – if she could get teens to wear training bras, then they’d stay with Maidenform as they developed and grew. She’d have a customer for life! This idea became the foundation of a $40 million Maidenform industry.
Bra-burning slowed the industry down

In the 1960’s, with female emancipation rampant, and women burning their bras in revolt, the bra industry took a heavy hit. But Ida Rosenthal, with the same enthusiasm and stick-to-it-tiveness that she’d displayed before, wasn’t deterred. She was asked how this burning of bras would affect her business. Her reply was, “We’re a democracy. A person has the right to be dressed or undressed. But after age 35, a woman hasn’t got the figure to wear no support. Time’s on my side.” And indeed it was – look at the industry today.
Women dreamed of all kinds of things – in their Maidenform Bra

Maidenform led the way in the bra industry. Their ad campaign, “I dreamed I…” did very well. The seed was planted – women could be anything they wanted if they wore a Maidenform Bra. The image was secured. The bra had become not only a method of supporting the breasts, but of displaying them in a variety of stages of dress and undress, all with the goal of making a woman look sexier.


But practicality was important, too. Different types of bras were designed for different types of women’s activities. If you were pregnant, you could buy maturnity bras. After you had your baby, you could buy a nursing bra. After you finished nursing, and before you lost your “baby weight”, you could buy a full figured bra.


And for those women who were a little bigger than most, there were plus size bras. And not only plus size bras, but plus size lingerie and girdles – whole outfits for those voluptuous women who some men found so attractive.


For the active women, there were athletic sports bra, giving extra support. For those evening gowns, there were strapless bras and backless bras to complement the beautifully-adorned woman at the formal gathering. And the teenage girl could proudly say, “Hey, I got my first bra.” And training bras would help her adjust as she grew and matured and got ready for regular bras.


Women with darker skin were targeted in advertising, by being offered dark colored bras – tan, black, brown – to help them feel comfortable and natural. And for those women who like to step a little on the daring side, there are see through shear bras, and all kinds of sexy, intimate bras and apparel that could be used to complement sexy lingerie.


The list goes on. Women have indeed some a long way in their freedom for fashion. They had to live through the days of tightly-cinching themselves to look good. Now they can look good in any surrounding, in any environment. Wherever a woman goes these days, whatever she does, there’s a bra to suit her activity.


And as for the attitudes of men – well, they’re not really concerned about who created the bra – they just admire the way it looks and try to learn how to take it off!

 

[eek.]

The guy was obviously out of his tree, hardly an indictment of the human race.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Tiz -

For a creature millions of years old and to end up being just as smart as dogs doesn't do much for me. Just validates the point i was trying to make about natural selection is all. Its because they have survived so long through the ability to adapt is the reason they have been around for so long. Not to mention their small stature and rapid reproduction, they are the poster child for NS not intelligence. So, yes i agree "intelligent" can defined in many ways, but when it comes to the roach... its all about natural selection. Scotty, is it fair to say the Jews are the cockroach of the world?

 

[ScottL]

"The History of the Bra – An Uplifting Story"

Thanks Tiz, that worked for a minute. Sadly though it reminded me of this poke your eyes out big-titted girl I once pursued for a month. I finally got her alone and we were making out. I removed the bra that was "uplifting" her, and wow, what a disappointment when those titties fell.




Yeah I still nailed her! What do you think I am, crazy!

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

Makes you feel as if we are nothing but a bunch of intelligent beasts.

That's because we are.

 

[ScottL]

Tiz -

For a creature millions of years old and to end up being just as smart as dogs doesn't do much for me. Just validates the point i was trying to make about natural selection is all. Its because they have survived so long through the ability to adapt is the reason they have been around for so long. Not to mention their small stature and rapid reproduction, they are the poster child for NS not intelligence. So, yes i agree "intelligent" can defined in many ways, but when it comes to the roach... its all about natural selection. Scotty, is it fair to say the Jews are the cockroach of the world?

Geez, that's a disturbing way to put it. I don't think a group of people who improves every society it enters should be described by that term.

I think someone who throws his child off a bridge is a fucking cockroach. And I sure wish I never read about it. I'd prefer not to know!

 

[quantumleap]

It may be a tribute to mankind that it dosent happen more often.

I agree.

"he did not appear in court because police said he was psychologically unfit to do so."

Every society has some people who are emotionally or mentally ill that will do things like this.

 

[gtc08]

i think the mental ill part is a cheap cop out. guy deserves to die for this. no exceptions.

 

[barman]

The History of the Bra – An Uplifting Story

This post is useless without pics

 

[fletchisrhsm]

I think someone who throws his child off a bridge is a fucking cockroach. And I sure wish I never read about it. I'd prefer not to know!

Im with you brother.

 

[roadreeler57]

I wish I didn't open this thread.

Would someone please post something uplifting now. Preferably something that I can't disprove by going to Snopes. TIA

Zombie Road Signs Attack Austin!

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Pranksters in Austin, Texas, hacked computerized road signs to warn drivers of an unusual hazard on Monday. The signs appeared on Lamar Boulevard, a major city thoroughfare.

 

[nhoj]

Not much differnt than a crack hpe having a baby,