Aiding and Abetting the Enemy: the Media in Iraq

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Much of the problem is about perspective, putting things in scale and balance. From where I sit in my command post at Camp Fallujah, Iraq, things are not all bad right now. In fact, they are going quite well. We are not under attack by the enemy; on the contrary, we are taking the fight to him daily and have him on the ropes.

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The number of attacks in the greater Al Anbar Province is down by at least 70-80% from late October -- before Operation Al Fajar began. The enemy in this area is completely defeated, but not completely gone. Final eradication of the pockets of insurgents will take some time, as it always does, but the fact remains that the central geographic stronghold of the insurgents is now under friendly control. That sounds a lot like success to me. Given all of this, why don't the papers lead with "Coalition Crushes Remaining Pockets of Insurgents" or "Enemy Forces Resort to Suicide Bombings of Civilians"? This would paint a far more accurate picture of the enemy's predicament over here. Instead, headlines focus almost exclusively on our hardships.

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Every headline they grab is a victory for them. Those who have read the ancient Chinese military theorist and army general Sun Tsu will recall the philosophy of "Kill one, scare ten thousand" as the basic theory behind the strategy of terrorism. Through fear, the terrorist can then manipulate the behavior of the masses. The media allows the terrorist to use relatively small but spectacular events that directly affect very few, and spread them around the world to scare millions. What about the thousands of things that go right every day and are never reported? Complete a multi-million-dollar sewer project and no one wants to cover it, but let one car bomb go off and it makes headlines.

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It appears many members of the media are hesitant to venture beyond the relative safety of the so-called "International Zone" in downtown Baghdad, or similar "safe havens" in other large cities. Because terrorists and other thugs wisely target western media members and others for kidnappings or attacks, the westerners stay close to their quarters. This has the effect of holding the media captive in cities and keeps them away from the broader truth that lies outside their view. With the press thus cornered, the terrorists easily feed their unwitting captives a thin gruel of anarchy, one spoonful each day. A car bomb at the entry point to the International Zone one day, a few mortars the next, maybe a kidnapping or two thrown in. All delivered to the doorsteps of those who will gladly accept it without having to leave their hotel rooms -- how convenient.
 

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It obvious to see they only report the bad and no good. I've personally never seen a positive report on Iraq. That says alot, we'd get lucky and do atleast one thing right.
 

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GAMEFACE said:
It obvious to see they only report the bad and no good. I've personally never seen a positive report on Iraq. That says alot, we'd get lucky and do atleast one thing right.

Good point Game...I have to dig to find anything positive. A guy named Chrenkoff did a roundup of media coverage of Iraq:

"But it's one thing to have a gut feeling about media negativity and another to know exactly how negative the coverage is. So today I decided to do a little tally.

Friday, 21 January (Australian time) is an average day as far as Iraq is concerned. Google news indexes the following negative stories concerning Iraq:

2,642 stories about Condi Rice's confirmation hearings, in the context of grilling she has received over the Administration's Iraq policy

1,992 stories about suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks

887 stories about prisoner abuse by British soldiers

2,345 stories about President Bush's inauguration, in the context of the President failing to mention the word "Iraq" in his speech, or indeed discuss the war

216 stories about hostages currently being held in Iraq

761 stories reporting on activities and public statements of insurgents

357 stories about the anti-war movement and the dropping public support for involvement in Iraq

182 stories about American servicemen killed and wounded in operations

217 stories about concerns for fairness and validity of Iraqi election (low security, low turnout, etc.)

107 stories about civilian deaths in Iraq

123 stories noting Vice President Cheney's admission that he had underestimated the task of reconstruction

219 stories about possible military action against Iran

24 stories about tense relations with Syria

118 stories about complicated and strained relations between the US and Europe

121 stories discussing the possibility of American pullout

27 stories about sabotage of Iraqi oil infrastructure

660 stories about prosecutions in the Oil for Food scandal

Then we have 123 stories - ostensibly neutral - about details of current troop deployments and movements. I write "ostensibly" because among that number there are numerous stories about deserters or soldiers refusing orders.

Finally we come to positive news:

311 stories about voter registration for Iraqis overseas. Even here we have to be cautious as significant number of these stories comment on "disappointingly" low numbers registering.

16 stories about security successes in the fight against insurgents

7 stories about positive developments relating to elections

73 stories about the return to Iraq of stolen antiques.

If the media coverage was war, the good guys would be getting slaughtered. "
 

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it must suck sometimes for these kids to get done with a successful raid or battle, and have to hear that back home the media is makng it look like they aren't making an ounce of progress...while it's not going 100%, the media makes it look like we're not doing anything correctly
 
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What sucks is the Bushies who cant face reality that Bush is a failed Commander in Chief in war that the MAJORITY of Americans now realize is a mistake ...

Stop blaming the Media ... Bush is the flappin idiot who stood on a carrier deck thinking he was Tom Cruise and declared "Mission Accomplished" and told the terrorists to "Bring It On"

Bush screwed up and not the Media .... the Media did not drop our kids into a country with no ties to 9-11 .. a country that was contained and a country that Israel itself did not even have as a Top 5 security threat

Ike wrote a letter taking Full blame if D-Day was screwed up ... Ike was a great man and true Commander in Chief ... Bush fails on both accounts and this denial crap and being weak ass and blaming the Media or "Liberals" for his military blunder is Iraq is pretty much sad
 

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Lawrence said:
it must suck sometimes for these kids to get done with a successful raid or battle, and have to hear that back home the media is makng it look like they aren't making an ounce of progress...while it's not going 100%, the media makes it look like we're not doing anything correctly

The bad thing is that when these kids come home, the extreme left will treat them in the same manner they treated the guys that came home from Vietnam 30 yrs ago. Many of these kids will have emotional scars that will never heal. And to top it off, they'll have to encounter these "peaceful, LOVE not war" protesters
 
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Yeah .. and the worse part is many of years later will be Republicans who never served in the military like Cheney ..
 

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Yeah .. and the worse part is many of years later will be Republicans who never served in the military like Cheney ..

Rather be someone who never served who respects the troops, than someone who never served, who curse and spit on the troops.
 

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The bad thing is that when these kids come home, the extreme left will treat them in the same manner ...

When they come home they'll find Bush cut VA hospital funding. Now I realize Bush is too far to the left for some of you, but do you actually put him in the extreme left now?
 

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ego74 said:
Rather be someone who never served who respects the troops, than someone who never served, who curse and spit on the troops.

Right on! I'm disgusted as well when Ann Coulter blames disabled Vietnam veterans for losing the war and spits on Max Cleland.
 

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It appears many members of the media are hesitant to venture beyond the relative safety of the so-called "International Zone" in downtown Baghdad.



If this is the root of the problem then there's an easy solution:

Give Coulter, Hannity, and Limbaugh packs and send them to the front line so they can report on what is really going on.
 

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Right on! I'm disgusted as well when Ann Coulter blames disabled Vietnam veterans for losing the war and spits on Max Cleland.

i've let it be known on plenty of occasions that i'm not fan of Coulter.
 

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Bush and Cheney are a couple of nutjobs and we don't need the media to show us that. It's clearly evident.
 

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Looking at that list that Shotgun posted.....

I guess I'm supposed to ignore the reality of a poorly planned war with no exit stategy in place, a war that has been adlibbed from the start....

So if things are going so well over there somebody please post a report on some kid getting braces so the Repubs can smile and call this an immaculate success, we can pull out, and the world can get on with the inevitable process of watching the upcoming Iraqi civil war...
 
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That is correct ... that is why Coulter telling a disabled Vietnam Vet that "because of your kind we lost the war in Vientam" makes me realize that Coutler, Hannity and Limbaugh are nothing but idiots
 

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The media are waaay too light on Bush.

Where's the screaming about the WMD lies ?? The pretext for invasion.
Where's the press on the illegality of the invasion ??
Wheres the press when entire towns of 300,000 people like Falluja get flattened??

He's single handedly obliterated American credibility in the international arena.

He's turned the US into a laughing stock, albeit a dangerous and unpredictable laughing stock.

The world is on hold until GWB and his gangsters are gone.

So now they know that any international cooperation has fizzled away,
(even if you guys don't) there's sod all they can do unless they bankroll it entirely themselves.

Heck, does it look like ANYONE is coming to help in Iraq any time soon?
Of course not. Iraq is a disaster.


This means that term 2 will be focussed on domestic issues, with lots of rhetorical nonsense about terrorists, and a bit of pattycake at the UN.
 

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Amid all of the so called chaos in your latest diatribe, you conveniently fail to mention that over 50% of the people will vote in the Iraqi election next week. Nearly the same % that vote here, where there's supposed to be all this hatred for Bush. Sure looks to me like the vast majority of Iraqis are embracing their newly found freedom. Sure doesn't look like a disaster to me. Near term history will shed the light on all you left wing Kum-ba-yah peaceniks to be completely and totally wrong about the Iraq war.
 

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I hope so, but doubt it seriously. I would like nothing better than to be wrong about the direction this war is taking.
 

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I believe it that you would like to be wrong. Sadly I can't say the same for other left wingers on this board. They hope we fail in Iraq, even with startling evidence to the contrary that we are succeeding. Look! Elections 20 months after the war began. Over 50% of the people going to the polls. Let freedom ring.
 

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