About that big bang "settled science" ...

[JDeuce]

And this special tune goes out to all the resident retards who mock intelligent design...


http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/no-big-bang-universe-may-have-had-no-beginning


If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang.

In the new formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may have no beginning at all.

"Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite," said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada.

The new concept could also explain what dark matter — the mysterious, invisible substance that makes up most of the matter in the universe — is actually made of, Das added.


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Wait...whaaaaaaaat? Like, seriously man?

Yep...you read that right. Scientists are beginning to doubt the big bang theory because they believe the universe has been here indefinitely. That means since, like, forever. Whoa. Omgz!!!

Hmm...an "eternal" universe? Doesn't sound like a very scientific term to me.

Is it sinking in yet for the resident dipshits that there are many, many aspects of our existence which can't be explained by formulas written with erasable markers on a blackboard?

Nah, of course it isn't.

 

[akphidelt]

There is nothing wrong with believing in science and intelligent design. The universe is obviously a complex structure that we know very little about. Now they are even saying black holes might not exist! All those damn Morgan Freeman shows I've been watching might be a lie, haha. In a thousand years they are going to look at our technology and understanding of the Universe like we look at cavemen figuring out how to start a fire.

Nothing wrong with trying to find answers and using and testing formulas. A lot of shit we use today would be like science fiction witchcraft type shit to people just couple hundred years ago. And all that is done by formulas and understanding of physics.

 

[JohnnyMac]

And it is the liberals who are "anti-science?" Lol.

 

[BleedingPurple]

And this special tune goes out to all the resident retards who mock intelligent design...


http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/no-big-bang-universe-may-have-had-no-beginning


If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang.

In the new formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may have no beginning at all.

"Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite," said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada.

The new concept could also explain what dark matter — the mysterious, invisible substance that makes up most of the matter in the universe — is actually made of, Das added.


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Wait...whaaaaaaaat? Like, seriously man?

Yep...you read that right. Scientists are beginning to doubt the big bang theory because they believe the universe has been here indefinitely. That means since, like, forever. Whoa. Omgz!!!

Hmm...an "eternal" universe? Doesn't sound like a very scientific term to me.

Is it sinking in yet for the resident dipshits that there are many, many aspects of our existence which can't be explained by formulas written with erasable markers on a blackboard?

Nah, of course it isn't.

My question that nobody can answer is who created the creator of intelligent design? Nobody can answer that, that's why it gets mocked. Religion and Bible Thumpers mock science but science does have answers and the Bible has a lot of nonsense in it that scientifically cannot be proven today. TO ME, it is laughable that people would believe this because they are brain washed this from early age. (In Most Cases) Children will believe anything especially if their parents believe, it's a never ending cycle. Let's say you grew up with Wolves or Apes? Would one find God and innately know his existence? In other words the idea has to be put into one's head. I find it hard to believe that the world has so many skeptics and disbelievers about many things yet hold their Bible. That's funny.

 

[festeringZit]

My question that nobody can answer is who created the creator of intelligent design? Nobody can answer that, that's why it gets mocked. Religion and Bible Thumpers mock science but science does have answers and the Bible has a lot of nonsense in it that scientifically cannot be proven today. TO ME, it is laughable that people would believe this because they are brain washed this from early age. (In Most Cases) Children will believe anything especially if their parents believe, it's a never ending cycle. Let's say you grew up with Wolves or Apes? Would one find God and innately know his existence? In other words the idea has to be put into one's head. I find it hard to believe that the world has so many skeptics and disbelievers about many things yet hold their Bible. That's funny.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

"My question that nobody can answer is who created the creator of intelligent design? Nobody can answer that, that's why it gets mocked."

This question shows that you have absolutely no clue, and you just aren't very bright. My guess is that you were educated in the US public school system,
and don't even have an undergraduate college degree.

Intelligent Design doesn't even address who the designer is, but that there is a designer. You aren't even intelligent enough to ask the relevant questions.

 

[festeringZit]

My question that nobody can answer is who created the creator of intelligent design? Nobody can answer that, that's why it gets mocked. Religion and Bible Thumpers mock science but science does have answers and the Bible has a lot of nonsense in it that scientifically cannot be proven today. TO ME, it is laughable that people would believe this because they are brain washed this from early age. (In Most Cases) Children will believe anything especially if their parents believe, it's a never ending cycle. Let's say you grew up with Wolves or Apes? Would one find God and innately know his existence? In other words the idea has to be put into one's head. I find it hard to believe that the world has so many skeptics and disbelievers about many things yet hold their Bible. That's funny.

I'll even buy you a copy of the NY times bestsellers: "Signature in the Cell" and/or "Darwin's Doubt" if you'd read it. Choptalk read "Signature in the Cell" at
my recommendation, and he said the book was excellent.

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/

 

[festeringZit]

[h=1]“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.”[/h]
― Bill Gates, The Road Ahead

 

[ScottL]

Our whole universe was in a dark dense state.....

 

[BleedingPurple]

I'll even buy you a copy of the NY times bestsellers: "Signature in the Cell" and/or "Darwin's Doubt" if you'd read it. Choptalk read "Signature in the Cell" at
my recommendation, and he said the book was excellent.

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/

I can buy intelligent design a little but I can't buy the Bible. I will get the book though

 

[BleedingPurple]

I'll even buy you a copy of the NY times bestsellers: "Signature in the Cell" and/or "Darwin's Doubt" if you'd read it. Choptalk read "Signature in the Cell" at
my recommendation, and he said the book was excellent.

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/

My quick questions are these? Does the book totally disagree with all aspect about evolution? Does it dispute evolution in regards to all things not man like bacteria etc?

 

[JDeuce]

I can buy intelligent design a little but I can't buy the Bible. I will get the book though

Jesus Christ. I almost have no words. Seriously.

The Bible ENDORSES intelligent design. As in, the very first sentence of the very first chapter of the Bible.

[1:1]​

In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,​

Ooooo, good stuff. Let's go on:

[1:2] the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. [1:3] Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. [1:4] And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. [1:5] God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day. [1:6] And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." [1:7] So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. [1:8] God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day. [1:9] And God said, "Let the waters under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. [1:10] God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. [1:11] Then God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees of every kind on earth that bear fruit with the seed in it." And it was so. [1:12] The earth brought forth vegetation: plants yielding seed of every kind, and trees of every kind bearing fruit with the seed in it. And God saw that it was good. [1:13] And there was evening and there was morning, the third day. [1:14] And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, [1:15] and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth." And it was so. [1:16] God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night - and the stars. [1:17] God set them in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth, [1:18] to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. [1:19] And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day. [1:20] And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky." [1:21] So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, of every kind, with which the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind. And God saw that it was good. [1:22] God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." [1:23] And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day. [1:24] And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind." And it was so. [1:25] God made the wild animals of the earth of every kind, and the cattle of every kind, and everything that creeps upon the ground of every kind. And God saw that it was good. [1:26] Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." [1:27] So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. [1:28] God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." [1:29] God said, "See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. [1:30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. [1:31] God saw everything that he had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.​

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There you have it. The first chapter of the Bible which talks all about intelligent design. What exactly did you think "intelligent design" meant?

 

[BleedingPurple]

Jesus Christ. I almost have no words. Seriously.

The Bible ENDORSES intelligent design. As in, the very first sentence of the very first chapter of the Bible.

[1:1]​

In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,​

Ooooo, good stuff. Let's go on:

[1:2] the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. [1:3] Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. [1:4] And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. [1:5] God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day. [1:6] And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." [1:7] So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. [1:8] God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day. [1:9] And God said, "Let the waters under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. [1:10] God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. [1:11] Then God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees of every kind on earth that bear fruit with the seed in it." And it was so. [1:12] The earth brought forth vegetation: plants yielding seed of every kind, and trees of every kind bearing fruit with the seed in it. And God saw that it was good. [1:13] And there was evening and there was morning, the third day. [1:14] And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, [1:15] and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth." And it was so. [1:16] God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night - and the stars. [1:17] God set them in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth, [1:18] to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. [1:19] And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day. [1:20] And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky." [1:21] So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, of every kind, with which the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind. And God saw that it was good. [1:22] God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." [1:23] And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day. [1:24] And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind." And it was so. [1:25] God made the wild animals of the earth of every kind, and the cattle of every kind, and everything that creeps upon the ground of every kind. And God saw that it was good. [1:26] Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." [1:27] So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. [1:28] God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." [1:29] God said, "See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. [1:30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. [1:31] God saw everything that he had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.​

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There you have it. The first chapter of the Bible which talks all about intelligent design. What exactly did you think "intelligent design" meant?

I believe there is a slim chance like a .00000001 % chance that intelligence formed the Earth but I don't believe in any of the excerpt above. I know I will get hammered for this but I find it embarrassing much of the country believes that. Yet man can't cause climate change.

 

[festeringZit]

My quick questions are these? Does the book totally disagree with all aspect about evolution? Does it dispute evolution in regards to all things not man like bacteria etc?

ID proponents, and creationists do not dispute "bacteria evolution." Some ID proponents believe in macro evolution, some don't.

If you are interested in the issues around the problems with Darwinism, and universal common descent, you should read this book first:

http://www.darwinsdoubt.com/

It shows/proves that the explosion of designed animals appearing in the Cambrian layer *CANNOT* be explained by Darwinism.

I have multiple copies, so if you want to PM me an address, I will mail you one.

 

[festeringZit]

I believe there is a slim chance like a .00000001 % chance that intelligence formed the Earth but I don't believe in any of the excerpt above. I know I will get hammered for this but I find it embarrassing much of the country believes that. Yet man can't cause climate change.

What is you theory on where the code that is the operating system software inside DNA came from? You really believe it came from nothing?

Information doesn't appear out of nothing. Information doesn't "evolve" from nothing. The human eye didn't evolve, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[BleedingPurple]

What is you theory on where the code that is the operating system software inside DNA came from? You really believe it came from nothing?

Information doesn't appear out of nothing. Information doesn't "evolve" from nothing. The human eye didn't evolve, sorry to burst your bubble.

Not bursting my bubble at all, I hope I am wrong. I have not theory but the excerpt from the Bible is laughable just like many others. My theory is, if by some slim chance it was intelligent design, it's not the way the Bible says.

 

[BleedingPurple]

ID proponents, and creationists do not dispute "bacteria evolution." Some ID proponents believe in macro evolution, some don't.

If you are interested in the issues around the problems with Darwinism, and universal common descent, you should read this book first:

http://www.darwinsdoubt.com/

It shows/proves that the explosion of designed animals appearing in the Cambrian layer *CANNOT* be explained by Darwinism.

I have multiple copies, so if you want to PM me an address, I will mail you one.

It doesn't really prove anything, it just supports an opinion you already have. This is from a chemist Keith Fox debate with Meyer. I agree with Fox

https://winteryknight.wordpress.com...ox-debate-intelligent-design-and-evolution-5/

 

[festeringZit]

It doesn't really prove anything, it just supports an opinion you already have. This is from a chemist Keith Fox debate with Meyer. I agree with Fox

https://winteryknight.wordpress.com...ox-debate-intelligent-design-and-evolution-5/

So you did a google search, and read for 5 minutes, and now you are *informed*.

ROFL.

Please elaborate in your owns words where you disagree with Meyers' assertions, and provide scientific evidence to back it up.

 

[festeringZit]

What is you theory on where the code that is the operating system software inside DNA came from? You really believe it came from nothing?

Information doesn't appear out of nothing. Information doesn't "evolve" from nothing. The human eye didn't evolve, sorry to burst your bubble.

Bleeding Purple, you conveniently ignored my question.

 

[BleedingPurple]

I don't have the time right now but I will answer it. I'm not saying I googled and 5 minutes later I disagree with Meyers but what Fox says is what I agree with and have agreed with for a long time.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

This is the way I see it and I don’t mean to offend those of faith.

Let me start off by saying that I don’t know if there is a God.

If there is, he/she/it is not the God we were taught by our parents, who learned from their parents, who learned from their parents, see where I‘m going with this.

The Bible is the best selling fiction novel ever written and translated and rewritten and interpreted and reinterpreted by many, many people, see where I‘m going with this.

As for evolution vs. intelligent design I can only say that evolution is proven science. Now given that some scientists say that humans use only 10% of our brain while others say 100%, whatever the number we are woefully ignorant.

I have a theory and I want to emphasize it is a theory not proven by science but there are some strong indicators that it may be true. I believe we are a giant ant farm planted on this planet by species from another universe either solely for amusement or as some sort of macabre experiment.

Which leads us back to the original topic of evolution vs. intelligent design. Where did the species from another universe come from?

My answer is, I don’t have a clue and neither does anyone else. I guess we’ll have ask them if they in fact exist.

Now you see where I’m going with this.