A question for everyone in the Political forum.

[GasMan]

There is no right or wrong answer here.

When it comes down to differences in pure capitalism or socialism..

Who is right or wrong?

The successful person that cannot handle giving up the fruits of their labor?

Or

The unsuccessful person who cannot handle other people having success and feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor? (just not them)

Im sure there is a much more eloquent way to ask this question, but you get the point.

 

[eek.]

With communism, man exploits man.
With capitalism it's just the opposite.

nuff said.

 

[piccolo]

There is no right or wrong answer here.

When it comes down to differences in pure capitalism or socialism..

Who is right or wrong?

The successful person that cannot handle giving up the fruits of their labor?

Or

The unsuccessful person who cannot handle other people having success and feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor? (just not them)

Im sure there is a much more eloquent way to ask this question, but you get the point.

As you said there are better ways to ask the question. Because your problem is that you dont even understand what the hell capitalism is or what socialism is.

do yourself a favor go read up on the meaning of the word socialism and the word capitalism.

After you understand the meaning of those words then come back and rephrase this question.
I will gladly help you answer it.

 

[GasMan]

As you said there are better ways to ask the question. Because your problem is that you dont even understand what the hell capitalism is or what socialism is.

do yourself a favor go read up on the meaning of the word socialism and the word capitalism.

After you understand the meaning of those words then come back and rephrase this question.
I will gladly help you answer it.

Uhhh..does not compute....

 

[piccolo]

Uhhh..does not compute....

Dont worry.. No one really expected you to grasp anything further than four legs good two legs bad!! (watch the dunce completely miss the reference):missingte:missingte:missingte

Dont feel bad about it. Its not your fault you failed high school civics.


After obama fixes your schools, be happy that your kids wont have a huge problem telling the difference between the two.

:lol:

 

[GasMan]

Capitalism is the economic system in which the means of production are distributed to openly competing profit-seeking<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-0>[1]</SUP> private persons and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a market economy<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Bacher_1-0>[2]</SUP> in which anyone can participate in supply and demand and form contracts with each other, rather than by central economic planning. Capitalism is originally defined as a mode of production, where it is characterized by the predominant private ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange in a mainly market economy<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[3]</SUP>. Capitalism is usually considered to involve the right of individuals and businesses to trade, incorporate, and employ workers, in goods, services (including finance), labor and land.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Bacher_1-1>[2]</SUP> In Capitalism, state action is confined to defining and enforcing the basic rules of the market<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-3>[4]</SUP> though the state may provide a few basic public goods and infrastructure.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-4>[5]</SUP>
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Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.<SUP>[</SUP>

WOW...Ive been wrong all along!

In lamens terms..capitalism gives corporations or individuals to compete in a free market. You eat what you kill.

Socialism is the beleif that the profits should be distributed evenly.

What the fuck is it that I dont understand?

Signed,

Clueless.

 

[festeringZit]

What you don't understand is that piccolo is a troll who's only
purpose on here is to try to make as big an ass of himself as
he can.

 

[piccolo]

Capitalism is the economic system in which the means of production are distributed to openly competing profit-seeking<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-0>[1]</SUP> private persons and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a market economy<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Bacher_1-0>[2]</SUP> in which anyone can participate in supply and demand and form contracts with each other, rather than by central economic planning. Capitalism is originally defined as a mode of production, where it is characterized by the predominant private ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange in a mainly market economy<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[3]</SUP>. Capitalism is usually considered to involve the right of individuals and businesses to trade, incorporate, and employ workers, in goods, services (including finance), labor and land.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Bacher_1-1>[2]</SUP> In Capitalism, state action is confined to defining and enforcing the basic rules of the market<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-3>[4]</SUP> though the state may provide a few basic public goods and infrastructure.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-4>[5]</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.<SUP>[</SUP>

WOW...Ive been wrong all along!

In lamens terms..capitalism gives corporations or individuals to compete in a free market. You eat what you kill.

Socialism is the beleif that the profits should be distributed evenly.

What the fuck is it that I dont understand?

Signed,

Clueless.

ooohh goody!!!! you went and did some homework... :nohead:

Too bad simply copying and pasting dont equate to actual comprehension.

The successful person that cannot handle giving up the fruits of their labor?

Or

The unsuccessful person who cannot handle other people having success and feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor? (just not them)

Because if you did you would have gone ahead and revised that question.

Problem with people that are half educated, they only know enough to make a fool of themselves while thinking they appear smart!

There has never been any such thing as true capitalism (at least no in the history of america. Many elements of socialism are incorporated into our economic system and the same goes with socialism.)

If you understand that simple fact (or even picked up a paper and read about the unchecked capitalism that brought our economy to a grinding halt..i mean its only been in the news for 12 months straight. One would think that even the dumbest retard could see outright capitalism as exemplified by the mortage crisis is as dangerous as socialism) then you would see exactly how silly your question is and how badly its phrased.

But you dont understand shit. I would totally be wasting my time explaining governmental systems and the balance we should seek to achieve!

 

[piccolo]

The unsuccessful person who cannot handle other people having success and feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor? (just not them)

Are you referring to the greedy capitalist bastards on wall street that sold bad paper, lost their asses (they would be unsuccesful afterall) got pissed off that other people took their money for placing bad bets they couldnt cover (you are aware that people made billions of dollars off the mortage crash)

And they turned around running to us and took our money to share amongest themselves and cover the stupid bets they placed?

Are those the unsuccessful people you are referring to? or did you think that question would only apply to communists?


LMAO.... fruits of a half education...my my my!

 

[piccolo]

The successful person that cannot handle giving up the fruits of their labor?

Are you aware that every succesful person in the USA owes thanks to socialist ideals that got him where he is? Are you aware that there is no such thing as a successful person who didnt start by partaking in what others (society) provided for him? ala socialism?

Do you now how see how bogus your question is?

Or did you think there are people who become rich by magical means.. may be found a leprechaun and grabbed him by the beard until he gave them gold?

 

[DarrylParsons]

Socialism involves stealing so it is sinful. Still, if those who get stolen from put up with it, then they are also to blame.

Capitalists should fight socialists with blazing guns, not gentlemanly debates. Thing is, they are too complacent, too comfy, too satiated, so they don't bother and thus get what they deserve.

Same with feminism -- unpleasant behavior by women but mainly men's fault for putting up with it, incentivizing it, etc.

 

[quot7quot]

Socialism involves stealing so it is sinful. Still, if those who get stolen from put up with it, then they are also to blame.

Capitalists should fight socialists with blazing guns, not gentlemanly debates. Thing is, they are too complacent, too comfy, too satiated, so they don't bother and thus get what they deserve.

Same with feminism -- unpleasant behavior by women but mainly men's fault for putting up with it, incentivizing it, etc.

So what's the answer DP? Totalitarianism?

 

[roadreeler57]

Quote Gas Man: "That does not Compute" Line sure borought back some memories... Vid below

 

[roadreeler57]

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[DarrylParsons]

So what's the answer DP? Totalitarianism?

Smaller societies, each with homogenous values. When the values are homogenous, it really doesn't matter what system you have.

 

[piccolo]

Gasman?

What happened? did you get a headache and run off to post some infantile thread about me instead of rephrasing your question?

LMao...

an to think the guy thought the question was so smart!

 

[barman]

Im sure there is a much more eloquent way to ask this question....

There sure is.

You could start with dumping the silly notion that the American population can be slotted into just two carefully worded personality charts.

 

[steaktartar]

There is no right or wrong answer here

GASMAN......

obvioulsy there is a right or wrong answer in your mind or wouldnt be arguing with everyone......lol

 

[piccolo]

There sure is.

You could start with dumping the silly notion that the American population can be slotted into just two carefully worded personality charts.

thats exactly what i have been trying to drum into him this whole time!hno:

 

[cussin'it]

Eek would be correct...both systems are exploitive.

I prefer cappytalism, it engenders competition, efficiency, and a higher living standard.

What I am vehemently against is what we have going on now: Crony Capitalism where the people's representatives essentially have become serfs to coporations.

Find me a nice middle between the above two, and you have my answer.