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TraderMike

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Guys, I'm trying to find a good capper and have been doing alot of research over the past few weeks-- reading forums, monitors, websites etc...I have a short consideration list but I don't want to jump the gun; I want to put in my due dilegence and get advice from some of you vets. If there is such a thing as a honest, reputable, and successful capper with long-term and consistent profitablilty, then I am determined to find him. Please see my list below and comment as you will; please feel free to add new names or mention scamdicappers that I can add to my avoid list. I know this list is a littel winded and long, so sorry in advance for that. I hope to create a comprehensive list for all to use in the future.


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Consideration List- <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Everyone on this list is first and foremost a documented winner for at least six months on a, what I consider to be, a reputable monitor (could be wrong about the monitor). Given a significantly positive result over the long term, I am looking for cappers with deep histories(hopefully multi-year), good website(free from gimmicks, red flag scammer verbiage, outlandish claims etc..), good customer service (quick responses to e-mails in a courteous and straight-forward manner, and hopefully a listed number), reasonably priced(I think you should be paying no more than $200 for a monthly package), solid across many sports(I would like one capper I can run with instead of having to switch during the year.. however, I am open to the possibility that this may be the most profitable course of action), a website that has been around for a while with contact info including admin address, and, ideally, I would like to see positive responses for the capper in the forums and groups (any negative feedback at all and I automatically will put in my rejected list.. a true zero tolerance policy for anything less than a sparkling rep). Also, I have no tolerance for high pressure sales, selling of personal info, and variable pricing for different levels of picks (either you like the pick or not, no up selling please). A deficiency in any one area above does not necessarily preclude him from consideration, but I will mark it as a con when reviewing my findings. Overall, I am simply looking for a positive ‘feel’ when doing my research.
Mike Lineback- www.mikelineback.com
PROS<o:p></o:p>
- heavily monitored across many for many years including trackpicks, sportsmonitor
- website details available back to ’05 through a whois search
- sent e-mail regarding his record and discrepancies amongst sites and he replied quickly with an honest and thorough response which makes me think he has good customer service
- has definitely had some outstanding years
- reasonably priced $165/mo
- have heard his name in positive light
CONS<o:p></o:p>
- No phone number available on site
- Slow start to 09
- Only strong across a few sports
- Only displays a brief history of picks but this could be due to the fact that he is so heavily monitored
- Does some, what I believe to be, sucker plays like teasers, parlays etc… but who the hell am I?
- Only does, NBA, NFL, and MLB… didn’t look too hot in MLB last year
Misc notes
Andre Gnomes- www.andregomes.com<o:p></o:p>
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PROS<o:p></o:p>
- Heavily tracked by the monitors<o:p></o:p>
- Excellent NBA<o:p></o:p>
- Have heard positives in the forums<o:p></o:p>
- Logical money management philosophy<o:p></o:p>
- Includes analysis with his picks<o:p></o:p>
CONS<o:p></o:p>
- No phone number on site<o:p></o:p>
- Monthly package a little pricey ($249)<o:p></o:p>
- May be getting spread out, acknowledges lack of experience in some sports<o:p></o:p>
- Asks for your phone number if you contact him on site (don’t worry about it son)<o:p></o:p>
Miscellaneous notes- sent e-mail on 1-29, awaiting response<o:p></o:p>
3G <o:p></o:p>
PROS<o:p></o:p>
- Tops of the list in many sports over many years at sportsmonitor, also seen on national sports monitor<o:p></o:p>
- phone number on site<o:p></o:p>
- verified site on whois for length and address<o:p></o:p>
CONS<o:p></o:p>
- A lot of boiler room B.S. #1 site talk on site<o:p></o:p>
- A bit pricey ($250 for month)<o:p></o:p>
- Saw his name featured on the same site as Mike Anthony vegastopdogs.com. Mike Anthony is a possible scamdicapper whom I saw listed as such in one of the forums I read, so I automatically took Mike Anthony off my list. This does not necessarily mean they are directly associated in any way, but when there is smoke there’s fire type thinking here.<o:p></o:p>
Miscellaneous notes- this guy plays himself off as a little too big time with his radio shows and such.. I don’t know if I trust a guy with more than a small staff at most. However, I can deal with this if he is honest and results are verified by others--after all the main thing is profits.
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Right Angle <o:p></o:p>
PROS<o:p></o:p>
- Monitored by trackpicks, and a few others for several years<o:p></o:p>
- Absolutely have killed it so far this season in CBB<o:p></o:p>
- Excellent site<o:p></o:p>
- Phone number available<o:p></o:p>
- Excellent customer service on phone<o:p></o:p>
- Record of every pick they have ever made on site<o:p></o:p>
- Like the philosophy of concentrating on small conferences for spotting value<o:p></o:p>
- Looks like they absolutely kill the total bets<o:p></o:p>
- Read good thing in the forums<o:p></o:p>
CONS<o:p></o:p>
- Only do college sports<o:p></o:p>
- Expensive ($250/mo.)<o:p></o:p>
- Side bets not as hot<o:p></o:p>
- looks they have had some crappy years earlier this decade (meaning they were not up many units, but if you factor in their fee this could be a loss for you)<o:p></o:p>
- This is their best season so far, which makes me think this could be an aberration, however last year was their best year to date—perhaps they are just getting better. <o:p></o:p>
- They way they instruct you to do their totals picks is pretty awkward and inconvenient (very time sensitive). They send you warning that they will be releasing the lines soon because they say the line gets pushed down so much after they release their picks<o:p></o:p>
Miscellaneous notes- I have to say, if these guys are scammers, they have me fooled. This is probably the most open site I’ve seen, but I am a little suspect of the profit possibility.
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CONSIDERED<o:p></o:p>
Cappers listed here aren’t necessarily scammers, but I have not seen enough of my criteria met to justify considering them at this point. However, they do show some potential.
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- Allstar Sports
- Troutbuster.com
- Steve Merrill
- Scoopwins.com

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SCAMMERS (avoid at all costs)
-Mike Anthony
-Maddux Sports
- Jim Feist
- Wayne Root
 

ParquetPosse

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Handicapper Review

Trader Mike- Read your post and thought I could provide you with some insight into the information you seek. I have devised a system in which I follow four handicappers picks on a daily basis, adhering to a stricht money management philosophy that is similar to or roughly equivalent to a quarter Kelly system. I have been extremely successful using this strategy over the past two years. I have a job and other committments and so it made sense to me to handicap the handicappers instead of handicapping the games myself. Following four handicappers allows you to have a lot of action all the time to satisfy that desire while also allowing you to play through bonus requirements faster and avoid long losing streaks which can kill morale. I maintain a Matchbook account, a BETCRIS account for early and overnight lines, and I play through various bonuses that are offered provided they are 20% or more. Using this strategy you can bring the break even point down to about 50.6% and the handicappers usually produce about 53-54% winners, so you can do the math on that.

As for handicappers, I have followed Mike Lineback and 3G Sports for about two years, I also follow Mike Devine who in my opinion is better than both of the aforementioned cappers. My fourth capper is a computer model a friend of mine from MIT produced. At any rate, Mike Lineback is top notch, his picks are always well researched and he understands the NBA, NFL, and MLB very well. He recently stopped doing college basketball picks to focus on the NBA and he does not play the first month of baseball in order to gain information, his prices are reasonable, solid capper and seems like a good guy. 3G is definitely more into the Vegas thing, his money management strategies of throwing out 10 star plays are not sustainable long term and he plays a lot of underdogs which can be good and bad. He is more expensive and I would question the accuracy of some of the monitors and his relationship with them. All that being said he does hit about 53% and will make someone a long term winner, he is also way more expensive than Mike Lineback. Mike Devine is the best in my opinion. Very good at college basketball and college football, good at NFL, and his MLB is also good. Mike Devine's prices are reasonable and he sends emails so you can get optimal line value. He basically lets you know what he is playing and when is the best time to play it. He does exhaustive research and you can experience this through the write-ups he delivers on each game.

In my experience the monitors can be misleading because cappers have to submit certain games at certain lines at certain times, I think a lot gets lost in translation between what cappers actually play themselves and what they submit to monitors. Nobody who is a successful sports handicapper puts in all their plays at the same time and so services that release their plays at 6PM every day are in my opinion worthless. At any rate, sorry to be long-winded and if you want to email me, I would be happy to give you more insight if you want.
 

ParquetPosse

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Shills

I am not shilling for anything. I could care less if any of you sign up for the aforementioned cappers and if you read the post they present the positives and negatives to each. Why cant people actually read a post and discern the information for themselves. Not everyone is after something or on this forum for non-altruism.
 

whalewager

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Btw...the only touts worth fucking with are the ones that move the line significantly. And that aint many...
 

TraderMike

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Appreciate Feedback

I just want to make it clear that I am person acatually looking for an excellent capper who has been screwd before. There is no agenda behing my post. I appreciate the feedback on Lineback and 3G. Is devine monitored anywhere? I understand that there can be inefficiencies between the cappers and the monitors, but I still think that is the legitimate way to protect your rep. Or at least not hurt it.
 

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