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Shub....Not making lite of that, but that is just an hour or 2 here in Chicago right now!
 

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Does this kind of thing happen in other countries? People going off and killing their family?
 

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About those gun laws again.....

Not allowed to talk about the guns. The crazy gun nuts will start posting charts about how it's not the guns fault.

Only in america do we have these idiots who refuse to put any blame on the actual weapon used to kill people.

Any minute we should see a gun nut post a story about one death by axe and then say "should we have axe control"...amazing these dopes actually compare one death to thousands and thousands.
 

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Not allowed to talk about the guns. The crazy gun nuts will start posting charts about how it's not the guns fault.

Only in america do we have these idiots who refuse to put any blame on the actual weapon used to kill people.

Any minute we should see a gun nut post a story about one death by axe and then say "should we have axe control"...amazing these dopes actually compare one death to thousands and thousands.

They should outlaw car accidents.

Plane crashes too. Everytime a plane goes down we lose as many people as a month in Chicago
 

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They should outlaw car accidents.

Plane crashes too. Everytime a plane goes down we lose as many people as a month in Chicago

Are you really comparing a plane crash to a murder? Serious plane crashes happen what...every 7-8 years? Horrible analogy.
 

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Let me guess, one guy gets a gun and shoots and kills 6 but it wouldn't have happened if the Houston police were enforcing the laws right? They should've anticipated what this guy was going to do and stop him beforehand?
 

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Banning guns is not the way to go......last thing we want is to have our guns taken from us.

The government will have the upper hand if its citizens don't have anything to fight back with if/when chaos breaks out in the near future.

Also, with all the rampant crime, we need to protect our families & homes.

Just look at Louisiana after the hurricane destroyed the cities by the shore.......the govt didn't do jack & people suffered. Rapes & all sorts of crime were rampant.......the last thing will be the govt doing anything to protect & help us.

They want your tax dollars & could care less about anyone that isnt worth hundreds of millions.

Bottom line, its definitely terrible read about people shooting innocent members of society & banning gunsis the ewrong way to go about solving the problem.

Do I have the answer? No I don't but I know the media blows up the stories with all these stories.

Maybe we shouldn't make any violent movies with people shooting one another.....seems like the younger generations with the violent video games & violent movies become desensitized & act out what they've seen.

The babysitter now a days is the TV & video games & w/o good parenting, how in the world can you expect the kids to act the way they're supposed to.

Not saying all kids not brought up in a good environment with good parenting turn to violence but it doesn't help.

Are you a product of your environment?

Guns are not the problem.......you can use a gun to hunt & feed your family. You can use a knife to cut a steak or tomatoes but both gun & knife can be used to kill someone.

We just live in a world that is out of control & everyone wants pure gratification right away.......we live in the "me" generation. Our future looks bleak & its not because of guns.......
 

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The number of firearms in circulation has gone up exponentially in the last 20 years (and the issuance of concealed carry permits has gone up 500%) and yet the violent crime rate has declined. Rather sharply.

Those are facts. So if your response to a shooting, one mind you, where you have no clue what the motive and the weapon used, is to call for more gun laws, you're frankly, dumb. There is no other way to say it.

w-thumbs!^
 

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The number of firearms in circulation has gone up exponentially in the last 20 years (and the issuance of concealed carry permits has gone up 500%) and yet the violent crime rate has declined. Rather sharply.

Those are facts. So if your response to a shooting, one mind you, where you have no clue what the motive and the weapon used, is to call for more gun laws, you're frankly, dumb. There is no other way to say it.

w-thumbs!^

My answer certainly isn't more gun laws but way tougher and very strict enforcement.
 
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That's a great post, Computer Group.

The moral codes that backboned this country since its inception have slipped away.

How many of you guys have even seen the Ten Commandments?

"Thou shalt not kill" is one of those Ten Commandments.

It used to be drummed into a child's head repeatedly by home, church, and school. When that happened it became part of people's personnas. The only exceptions were self defense.

Today, homes are broken, churches are empty, and the courts ruled Christian teachings from the school curriculum.

Blame those who have drained the Christian morality from the society, so important to our Founders and the people in the country for the first two hundred years.

"Thou shalt not kill" is a part of who I am. Clearly, however it is no longer a part of the persona of many, many in our county today.

The gun is not to blame. The amoral person pulling the trigger is to blame.
 

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Banning guns is not the way to go......last thing we want is to have our guns taken from us.

The government will have the upper hand if its citizens don't have anything to fight back with if/when chaos breaks out in the near future.

Also, with all the rampant crime, we need to protect our families & homes.

Just look at Louisiana after the hurricane destroyed the cities by the shore.......the govt didn't do jack & people suffered. Rapes & all sorts of crime were rampant.......the last thing will be the govt doing anything to protect & help us.

They want your tax dollars & could care less about anyone that isnt worth hundreds of millions.

Bottom line, its definitely terrible read about people shooting innocent members of society & banning gunsis the ewrong way to go about solving the problem.

Do I have the answer? No I don't but I know the media blows up the stories with all these stories.

Maybe we shouldn't make any violent movies with people shooting one another.....seems like the younger generations with the violent video games & violent movies become desensitized & act out what they've seen.

The babysitter now a days is the TV & video games & w/o good parenting, how in the world can you expect the kids to act the way they're supposed to.

Not saying all kids not brought up in a good environment with good parenting turn to violence but it doesn't help.

Are you a product of your environment?

Guns are not the problem.......you can use a gun to hunt & feed your family. You can use a knife to cut a steak or tomatoes but both gun & knife can be used to kill someone.

We just live in a world that is out of control & everyone wants pure gratification right away.......we live in the "me" generation. Our future looks bleak & its not because of guns.......

When you say "the government will have the upper hand" what exactly do you mean? What entities in the federal government are going to take over when this chaos breaks out in the near future?
 

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Banning guns is not the way to go......last thing we want is to have our guns taken from us.

The government will have the upper hand if its citizens don't have anything to fight back with if/when chaos breaks out in the near future.

Also, with all the rampant crime, we need to protect our families & homes.

Just look at Louisiana after the hurricane destroyed the cities by the shore.......the govt didn't do jack & people suffered. Rapes & all sorts of crime were rampant.......the last thing will be the govt doing anything to protect & help us.


They want your tax dollars & could care less about anyone that isnt worth hundreds of millions.

Bottom line, its definitely terrible read about people shooting innocent members of society & banning gunsis the ewrong way to go about solving the problem.

Do I have the answer? No I don't but I know the media blows up the stories with all these stories.

Maybe we shouldn't make any violent movies with people shooting one another.....seems like the younger generations with the violent video games & violent movies become desensitized & act out what they've seen.

The babysitter now a days is the TV & video games & w/o good parenting, how in the world can you expect the kids to act the way they're supposed to.

Not saying all kids not brought up in a good environment with good parenting turn to violence but it doesn't help.

Are you a product of your environment?

Guns are not the problem.......you can use a gun to hunt & feed your family. You can use a knife to cut a steak or tomatoes but both gun & knife can be used to kill someone.

We just live in a world that is out of control & everyone wants pure gratification right away.......we live in the "me" generation. Our future looks bleak & its not because of guns.......

Also, there were no official reports of rapein the Super Dome. They have no official reports of rape and no witnesses to sexual assault. The state Department of Health and Hospitals counted 10 dead at the Superdome and four at the convention center. Only two of those are believed to have been murdered. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9503449/n...katrina-may-have-been-overblown/#.U78syLEuMk8
 

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That's a great post, Computer Group.

The moral codes that backboned this country since its inception have slipped away.

How many of you guys have even seen the Ten Commandments?

"Thou shalt not kill" is one of those Ten Commandments.

It used to be drummed into a child's head repeatedly by home, church, and school. When that happened it became part of people's personnas. The only exceptions were self defense.

Today, homes are broken, churches are empty, and the courts ruled Christian teachings from the school curriculum.

Blame those who have drained the Christian morality from the society, so important to our Founders and the people in the country for the first two hundred years.

"Thou shalt not kill" is a part of who I am. Clearly, however it is no longer a part of the persona of many, many in our county today.

The gun is not to blame. The amoral person pulling the trigger is to blame.


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My answer certainly isn't more gun laws but way tougher and very strict enforcement.
What?!?

What is this?!? You've been saying for a week that we need stricter laws. We need mandatory 25 year sentences you stated.

Now we need enforcement? Which one is it?

My head hurts again.
 

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You must have found those studies and statistics you were hammering me about in the other thread.
 

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What?!?

What is this?!? You've been saying for a week that we need stricter laws. We need mandatory 25 year sentences you stated.

Now we need enforcement? Which one is it?

My head hurts again.

I've been consistent all along so don't move the goal posts. Way tougher meaning sentencing for the discovery of illegal firearms is immediate 25 years with no chance of parole. Very strict meaning guy is found with gun, in court very soon after and 25 years given. Way tougher and very strict. No fucking around.
 

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