30 SECRETS FROM SONNY REIZNER(Strut888's old boss)

[kyhawk]

Sonny Reizner was a legend in Vegas and one of the first legitimate Bookmakers at the Castaways. I found this old article written by Jack Painter. I think it is from '88 in an old publication called "Sports Trends". There are articles from Jack Painter, Jack Steele, Bob McCune. Titles such as betting the coaches,nba totals, what is value, confessions of a would be millionaire.

#1. Understanding what must be overcome.

2. Knowledge of the Game

3.Personal Goals should influence the way you Play.

4. Dedication

5. Subscribe to and read all pertinent Publications about all the sports you bet on.

6. Watch or Listen to as many games as possible

7.The importance of money management

8.Beware of cycles.

9. Have confidence in your own opinion

10. Keep you body toned mentally and phsically

11. Don't try to get even on any one game.

12. Knowing how to get value.

13. Learning to ask questions

14. Dont bet in the dark

15 Have Discipline

16. SENTIMENTAL BETS

17. UNDERSTANDING THE MATH AND PERCENTAGES
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18. VARY THE BETS IN DIFFERENT AMOUNTS

19. LOOK FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS.

20. BEWARE OF OUTSIDE PROBLEMS AND TRY TO AVOID OUTSIDE DISTRACTIONS

21.SEE 20
22.WATCHING SPORTS EVENTS OBJECTIVELY

23 THERE IS NO LAW OF AVERAGES.

24. LOOK FOR TRENDS AND STREAKS

25. DO NOT ACCEPT RUMOR FOR FACT

26. DO YOUR BETTING AND HANDICAPPING IN COMFORTABLE SURROUNDINGS

27. DON'T PANIC WHEN LOSING AND DON'T GET COCKY WHEN WINNING

28 BE PATIENT

29. THERES' NO SUCH THING AS A LOCK GAME

30 STAY LOOSE.

[This message was edited by RPM on July 26, 2003 at 10:03 PM.]

 

[Fishhead]

WOW

Came across this thread posted 4.6 years ago ......and with no replies.


Great set of credos here.

 

[aclv1]

i have to work on number 10

 

[Fishhead]

Good thread

 

[Willie99]

26 is more important than one might think

 

[Willie99]

#1. Understanding what must be overcome.

2. Knowledge of the Game

3.Personal Goals should influence the way you Play.

4. Dedication

5. Subscribe to and read all pertinent Publications about all the sports you bet on.

6. Watch or Listen to as many games as possible

7.The importance of money management

8.Beware of cycles.

9. Have confidence in your own opinion

10. Keep you body toned mentally and phsically

11. Don't try to get even on any one game.

12. Knowing how to get value.

13. Learning to ask questions

14. Dont bet in the dark

15 Have Discipline

16. SENTIMENTAL BETS

17. UNDERSTANDING THE MATH AND PERCENTAGES
.
18. VARY THE BETS IN DIFFERENT AMOUNTS

19. LOOK FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS.

20. BEWARE OF OUTSIDE PROBLEMS AND TRY TO AVOID OUTSIDE DISTRACTIONS

21.SEE 20
22.WATCHING SPORTS EVENTS OBJECTIVELY

23 THERE IS NO LAW OF AVERAGES.

24. LOOK FOR TRENDS AND STREAKS

25. DO NOT ACCEPT RUMOR FOR FACT

26. DO YOUR BETTING AND HANDICAPPING IN COMFORTABLE SURROUNDINGS

27. DON'T PANIC WHEN LOSING AND DON'T GET COCKY WHEN WINNING

28 BE PATIENT

29. THERES' NO SUCH THING AS A LOCK GAME

30 STAY LOOSE.

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what works for me

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

The King of circled games was a wise man...

 

[ML Dog]

Sonny Reizner launched Nevada's first football contest -- the "Castaways Challenge," started in 1978, which offered large purses to handicappers with the best season's win records.

A year later, he went even further by offering the "Ultimate Challenge," a contest with a $5,000 entry fee.

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Reizner established the first betting line on the Boston Marathon in 1979, and he was among the first to take wagers on other nontraditional betting sports such as NASCAR races, golf and tennis.

"He brought sports betting into the modern age," said Larry Grossman, a friend of Reizner and host of a Las Vegas radio show devoted to gambling, "You Can Bet on It."

Reizner also became known for his innovative proposition wagers in which handicappers could bet on everything from whether there would be a no-hitter pitched in a baseball game that day to whether a Super Bowl coin toss would turn up heads or tails.


But Reizner was unprepared for the response he generated in 1980 when he posted the betting line asking, "Who shot J.R.?"

Thousands of fans of the TV series "Dallas" placed wagers on who they thought was the unknown assailant who had shot the unscrupulous Texas oilman J.R. Ewing, played by Larry Hagman, in the previous season's cliffhanger.

Reizner wrote the odds for every character on the show who had a reason to kill J.R. Always one to inject humor into the proceedings, he even gave odds on real people, such as Dallas Cowboys coach Tom Landry at 500 to 1.

"It caused such a frenzy," Grossman said. "He had no idea it was going to be like that. He put up these kinds of things all the time."

Bookmakers, Grossman said, "used to put up lines on everything from elections to who's going to win the National League MVP. I remember a line asking where the comet Kohoutek is going to land."

All that changed in the wake of Reizner's "Dallas"-inspired betting line.

Before the episode that revealed who shot J.R. aired in the fall of 1980, Nevada's Gambling Control Board ordered that the line be taken down and all bets refunded.

The board reasoned that the shooter had already been determined by "Dallas" and that people who worked on the show may have talked.

"The person who pulled the trigger turned out to be the sister of J.R.'s wife," Reizner said later, "and she was my 7-to-2 fourth choice in the odds."


Born Julius Charles Reizner in Taunton, Mass., in 1921, he fell in love with sports as a child. He placed his first bet with a bookie -- on the Boston Braves -- when he was 16.

While working in the Sears mail order warehouse in Brookline, Mass., at 17, he supplemented his $15-a-week earnings by betting on sports and backing top local pool players.

After serving in the Army Air Corps during World War II -- "When I went into the service, the Germans became an 8-to-5 favorite," he would joke -- he turned to full-time gambling.

"He and Mother owned an antique store in Framingham [Mass.], but he made his living as a professional gambler on sporting events," said Reizner's daughter, Jann Reizner, a retired Las Vegas teacher.

She remembers the many times her father would be preoccupied watching a game, talking on the phone or simply worrying about a bet.

One time in the 1960s, he had $100,000 riding on the outcome of a single World Series game. He lost.

"We were never poor or hurting for anything, but there was a lot of stress on his part to provide for a wife and four kids," she said.

The family moved to Las Vegas in 1970. Reizner went to work at the now-defunct Churchill Downs Race and Sports Book.

He worked at the Fremont and Stardust before he was hired by the Castaways Hole-in-the-Wall Sportsbook in 1976. After the Castaways was demolished in 1987 to make way for the Mirage, Reizner became director of the Frontier hotel's race and sports book.

Reizner, who taught a course on the history of sports betting at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas for three years, helped open the Rio's race and sports book in 1989 and served as its director for several years before taking over the same job at the Desert Inn. He retired in 1996, passed away Saturday Nov. 30, 2002 at the age of 81.

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[Fishhead]

Hard to believe Sonny gone for 13 years

 

[VegasVic]

"3.Personal Goals should influence the way you Play.”

May be a stupid question but can anyone explain this one to me?

 

[Willie99]

"3.Personal Goals should influence the way you Play.”

May be a stupid question but can anyone explain this one to me?

that might apply more to a professional gambler, casual gamblers not so much