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Court Vote Fraught With 2008 Politics
[font=geneva,arial]- By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
[/font][font=geneva,arial][size=-2]Sunday, July 24, 2005
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(07-24) 10:18 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

Among the senators deciding whether to put John Roberts on the Supreme Court, no one may have more at stake than those with designs on the White House in 2008.



For those harboring the slightest interest in a presidential bid, the debate over the first high-court nominee in more than a decade leaves a tricky calculation: what to say — and not to say — about a jurist expected to steer the court to the right but whose enigmatic record makes him difficult to predict.



"It matters a lot for the party activists. It matters some for primary voters. And it matters a little for undecided general election voters," said Jack Pitney, government professor at Claremont McKenna College. "Even if it matters for 5 percent of the electorate — no candidate can ignore that."



In Roberts, Bush chose a federal appeals court judge who has served in Republican administrations and is a certified conservative. He is regarded as possessing a razor-sharp intellect and a judicial record that covers few of the contentious topics capable of energizing special-interest groups.



In the first few days since Bush's announcement, there was little indication of an all-out confirmation battle. Yet some fight is expected as senators scrutinize Roberts' close ties to conservative groups and his writings on abortion and other issues.



The decision of how tough a line to take in that process is most difficult for the least-known senators, said Norm Ornstein, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute think tank.



Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Sam Brownback, R-Kan. — two talked about as 2008 candidates — are on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which has initial responsibility for considering Roberts.



Both men may feel the need to steal some of the national political attention being lavished on Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., considered the early 2008 front-runners in the absence of any official word.



For Biden, who has carved a niche as a foreign-policy expert and has been the most open about his White House ambitions, the challenge is to remain statesmanlike while delving aggressively into Roberts' record, Ornstein said.



Biden said Sunday he did not think presidential politics would play a role in how Democrats approach Roberts' nomination. "Whether or not that is the motivation of anyone voting on Roberts or asking questions about Roberts, I'm sure it'll be phrased in that context," he told CBS'"Face the Nation."



Two years ago, Biden supported Roberts' nomination to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. A potential White House hopeful who is no longer in the Senate — John Edwards, the Democratic vice presidential nominee in 2004 — did so as well.



Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the party's presidential candidate in 2004, may hope to win the nomination again. On Friday, he urged the White House to release all documents and memos from Roberts' tenure at the Justice Department during the Reagan administration.



Brownback counts his greatest support among religious conservatives. There could be pressure from GOP activists to make certain Roberts isn't another David Souter, the Supreme Court justice named by former President Bush who has often sided with liberal members of the court.



Republican Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, also a favorite of the right, could face the same problem.



In the end, said Pitney, supporting Roberts will likely be an easy call for Brownback and Santorum, along with other Senate Republicans considered presidential material — such as Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.



"I don't think they'll press him very hard because they don't want to blow the nomination," Pitney said.



Potential Democratic candidates face a scary scenario of their own: What if Roberts ends up being the vote that overturns Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion?



That prospect led Democratic consultant Dane Strother to offer this advice: "The safe vote is just to vote no. They don't need to filibuster, they don't need to throw a fit. Just vote no."



Pitney said that guidance is especially relevant for Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, a conservative Democrat who needs to address the problem that he "has no natural constituency among Democratic primary voters."



Even Clinton could do well to follow the "vote no" suggestion, Strother said.



The Roberts nomination presents the New York senator "another opportunity to be centrist," Strother said, and a "yes" vote isn't likely to dent her popularity with the Democratic Party base. But assuming that Roberts' decisions on the court will never bring that vote back to haunt her is too much of a risk, he said.



Like Clinton, McCain may be too well-defined with voters to have to worry about the negative political impact of his vote. In fact, the Roberts nomination seems so far to have offered the Arizona senator, who is liked by Democrats and independents, the chance to shore up his standing with his own party.



Conservatives felt betrayed that McCain was part of the group of seven Republicans and seven Democrats who averted a Senate showdown over judicial filibusters by agreeing to participate in them only in extraordinary circumstances.



Immediately after Bush announced his choice of Roberts, McCain signaled his support and termed Roberts someone who doesn't meet the definition of "extraordinary circumstances."



"If Roberts goes through, it's a big win for McCain," Pitney said.
 
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Good read Sam, thanks


I support McCain
 
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RobFunk said:
I support McCain

I voted indy in the 2004 gen. election. I will vote for the most con dem in the 2008 dem primary but I will take a 'wait and see' attitude for the 2008 gen election.
 
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Hopefully McCain wont get trashed again by Rove with lies and other false allegations
 
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doc, name for me a major candidate for prez who hasn't been trashed with lies and other false allegations? It's a tough 'game,' if a candidate can't take the heat then I wounldn't want him or her as prez.
 
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McCains a sellout, shouldn't get backing by the right or the left. After bush/rove smeared his family he still kisses bushs ass. Then he keeps towing the party line on Plame outing. Maybe Robush has something on him. Mr. Straight Talk is just another political hack.
 
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I like the way McCain works with both partys, that impresses me most


I'm sure kissing Bush's ass is just for neccesary political gain. He doesnt have to support his policys, if he gets in
 

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McCain:103631605 Our best chance for a voice of reason and compassion in the White House!:103631605
 
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If we have McCain for 8 then Obama for 8 the country will more than be headed the right way
 
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RobFunk said:
I like the way McCain works with both partys, that impresses me most


I'm sure kissing Bush's ass is just for neccesary political gain. He doesnt have to support his policys, if he gets in
So you think this is what makes a good man. Someone that will go along with policies that harm the country for political gain? He'd sell his mother for the presidency. I have more respect for bush. You go around bad mouthing bush he's coming after you. You slander McCains family and he goes on the campaign trail with you and polishs your knob.
 
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HILLARY CLINTON TO SUPPORT BUSH COURT NOMINEE **Exclusive** Senator Hillary Clinton has confided to associates that she intends to vote FOR Bush Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. Unless some unforeseen development occurs around Roberts, Clinton will throw her support behind confirmation, says a top source. "Look, we're not thrilled President Bush is in office and gets to make these chocies," said a top Hillary source, "But we have to make the best of the situation until the next election!" With her support of Roberts, Clinton ignores pressure from the reactionary-activist wing of the Democrat party. "She is simply doing what is right for the country, not MOVEON.ORG," the Clinton insider explained.

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Sam:

what Rove did to McCain in the 2000 SC primary was an act that would have made Joseph Goebbels smile ....

One thing to "trash" ....another thing to spread vicious lies that hurt ones family
 
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doc mercer said:
Sam:

what Rove did to McCain in the 2000 SC primary was an act that would have made Joseph Goebbels smile ....

One thing to "trash" ....another thing to spread vicious lies that hurt ones family

IMHO, until you accept the fact that politics is one of the worse/dirtiest businesses around you will be disappointed your whole life. Doesn't make it right, wrong or indifferent, it is the way it is and no one 'party' has a monopoly on being the "worse" offender.
 
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You got me Jinn, I guess I will reserve judgement for now. I liked his handling of policys as well, but then again thats all just stuff I read from his site
 
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JinnRikki said:
So you think this is what makes a good man[McCain]. Someone that will go along with policies that harm the country for political gain?

Sen McCain has no choice, KKKarl Rove has naked pictures of McCain engaging in homo acts with other top GOPers! If you don't believe me ask doc.
 
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Being Rove spread rumors about McCain having a black child outside of marriage would not suprise me ...

Rove would like right at home in an SS uniform going to see Adolf
 
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doc, :103631605


:lolBIG:
 

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