2005 Rose Bowl- Texas 41-Mich 24

[UT-Longhorn]

Texas -6. Golden shoe lead pipe stone cold lock of the century.

even better than my Oregon over Michigan in 2003.
My Iowa over Michigan last year
My ND over Michigan this year.

Like f'ing clockwork.

here is your Rose Bowl. Michigan will go 3 and out due to Carr wanting to establish the run. Nevermind he has the best WR in the country in Edwards, a rocket in Breaston (who NEVER runs a fly route) and Avant who will catch everythng within 3 yards of him.

Texas will go up 24-7. Michigan will throw on the 1st series in the 2nd half and score within 7 plays. They'll stop Texas and get the ball back trailing 24-14 in the 3rd. He'll go right back to running the ball, they'll fall behind 34-14 then he'll start throwing again and they'll score easily making it 34-21 they tack a FG 34-24. They'll lose 41-24.

 

[Mjllomb]

I think it will be a little closer than that. And lower scoring



28-17

 

[Mjllomb]

We do both agree Greg Robinson will keep them in check on offense..

 

[docmercer--banned]

Texas has been know for having trouble against balance teams ..... and struggled on 3 out of 5 rd games, including a controversial call in Lawrence vs a terrible Kansas squad ... a call that saved Texas BCS bid



Young has not proven himself as a passer yet, so lets see if he can beat a zone .... especially in facing 2 of the premier dbs in the country

Michigan's DBs vs Texas' WRs- Does anything really need to be said about this? Texas doesn't throw the ball (their leading receiver has 399 yards...). The only problem is if Michigan allows Vince Young to run around to find open guys...key is to pressure Vince Young...when under pressure he consistently makes mistakes. EDGE: MICHIGAN

Michigan's WRs vs Texas' DBs- On average Texas gives up 211 yards through the air while Michigan gets an average of 233 yards per game. This looks like one area where Michigan can exploit Texas' defense but the only problem is that Michigan's O-line has to give Henne time to pass. Michigan receivers, especially Edwards, can make plays in this game against the Texas dbs. EDGE: MICHIGAN

Texas O-line and RBs vs Michigan front seven- This is the place where Texas may be able to take advantage of the Michigan defense...with an outstanding RB and a good running QB Texas could have some success gaining yards and moving the ball down the field. The Michigan defense gives up an average of 121 yards per game and Texas, with Cedric Benson and Vince Young gain an average of over 300 yards per game. But on a side note, these stats are inflated because of 350 yards against Baylor and 514 yards against North texas. If Michigan can contain the pass (which I believe they can) that means they can stack the box with eight guys (including hard-hitting Ernest Shazor) and try to stop the run. Texas excels at running the football and Michigan is a little above average at stopping it at best. EDGE: TEXAS

Michigan's O-line and RBs vs Texas' D-line- Like the Minnesota game and Purdue game, Michigan is going to have to use their excellent passing game to open the running game for Michael Hart. As we all know, Michigan has been very good at running the ball since the end of the Notre Dame game. Michael Hart is tough and can find the holes. Michigan gains an average of 156 yards per game and Texas allows an average of 105 yards per game. On another side note one must remember that Texas has been able to get way ahead of their opponents and as a result the teams have had to abandon the run. Teams that have had the lead or stayed close with the Horns have had success (OK. State in the 1st Half, Oklahoma, Baylor and Missouri each had over 175 yard on the ground). So Michigan can indeed have success running the ball against Texas IF they stay close. EDGE: EVER SO SLIGHTLY TO MICHIGAN

Michigan's Special Teams vs Texas' Special Teams: The one thing every Michigan dreads are the Special Teams play. This will be crucial in a game like this. Let's start with Texas- their kicker is pretty automatic from 39 yards and in, but from 40 yards and out is just 4 of 6 and he has only missed one PAT. As far as punting goes, is pretty average. Michigan is pretty suspect at kicking...Rivas is 16 of 21 this season which is 76% and has also missed four PATs. However, in his career, Rivas has made the big kicks when Michigan needed them (Purdue, Minnesota after a bad snap, Michigan State and Minnesota last year). Michigan also has a man named Steve Breaston that some people made have heard about. With over a month to heal, he should approach 100% rapidly and should be ready to go on January 1st. EDGE: MICHIGAN



Michigan Coaching vs Texas Coaching: As we all know Lloyd Carr's record against top ten teams is very good (14-5) and he is good at making gameplans for the big games. The one question is Jimmy Hermann and whether he will make a gameplan like Purdue last year and this year, or like Ohio State this year. With so much on the line I think he will come through for Big Blue and make a brilliant gameplan work. Texas coach Mack Brown has been suspect in the big games in his career and that is not good for Texas. However, Texas has never been to the Rose Bowl and may want to play well. On the other hand though, none of the Texas players have been to a BCS Game...many UM players have. That could play a factor. However, with the suspect Michigan defensive schemes and the way Texas can play I don't know. EDGE: TEXAS CONCLUSION: Michigan just came off of a loss to Ohio State...the team is going to want to wash that taste from their mouth and also to send the seniors out with a win. Additionally, the seniors remember last year when they got dominated and blown out by USC and will try to avoid a repeat. Texas has never been to a BCS bowl game (at least the current players haven't). Michigan has big game experience in their favor in this. I think that could go a long way in deciding this game.

Your LOCK is far from a lock as this aint Kansas, toto ....

 

[Jarbo]

UTL



Whatever you are smoking please snd some to me. Texas isn't playing some Little 12 pushover. Things in Texas must REALLY be BIGGER. Your imagination is second to none.

Luck:think2:

 

[winkyduck]

Big Game + Mack Brown = CHOKE


first off - texass has NO BUSINESS being in this game - it should be Cal who would beat Texass in NO MORE than 6 games if these 2 played a best of 7 game series.

take a look at texass' record in bowl games outside the state of texass and that should be enough to convince you hail to the victors is the right side.

 

[EasyMoney]

Lets not mention that Texas plays st. marys catholic school for blind women whenever their in a big game. We all know how that Oaklahoma game turns out every year and lets see, how'd that bowl game against Wash St. as a 10 point fav work out for ya last year.

Not to mention Carr has a better record against top 10 teams than anybody but Stoops.

 

[LineBreaker+]

I wouldn't look to much into that Holiday bowl game against Wash St. last year. Texas wanted a BCS and was really upset they didn't get it, they didnt want to play Wash St. Texas will be fired up like no other for this game. Probably more than OU because they know they can win.

Mack Brown does choke in big games though, just not a lot of emphasis on last years game

 

[docmercer--banned]

Jam the line ....

force Young to beat Michigan thru the air ....

Better chance it snows in Austin heavy this upcoming
weekend

Young has the worse mechanics I've ever seen ...he is a
great athlete who will super catching passes from Eli Manning as a member of the Giants in a few years

 

[docmercer--banned]

Browns team's in big games always come up flat and that goes back to his NC days .. his game plan is always too damn conservative and a tiger never changes it stripes

No way I bet Texas in this game ...

 

[sphincter]

my first impression was michigan....but after taking a look,it worries me that mich st and ohio sta slashed michidan`s "d"on the ground......i mean hammered them...mich st and ohio st have something in common with texas...a running qb....and young is the best runner of the 3 by far.......actually,if stanton hadn`t been injured vs michigan,state would have annihilated them...

the ohio st game was an embarrassment....

young and benson worry me here...vs a freshman qb and running back...

 

[erac]

I have to weigh in on this one. All you Texas bashers need to chill. I fully understand there's lots of amunition to bash Texas but this is also a pretty good 10-1 team that will be totally pumped to play in the Rose Bowl. Texas did not want to be at the Holiday Bowl last year and it definitely showed on the field when they played like crap. I fully expect them to be ready this year.

A key difference between this year and others is a much better defense under new coordinator Greg Robinson. The Texas defense in years past was man-to-man blitz based that mostly ran itself out of position. Their defense this year is much more zone based, disciplined and versatile. Look up the stats, Texas hasn't always been lights out against the run this year (esp vs. OU) but they've made almost every QB on their schedule look bad. Most teams, even OU, they've made one-dimensional.

Second major difference is that the strongest unit for Texas, behind the LB tandem of Johnson and Harris, is their O-line. This is a good o-line which is well coached. As mentioned above, Texas won't kill you throwing the ball and every team they have played has stacked the line on them. A few of their games teams basically played 9 men on the line. Guess what, Texas still ran on everyone. They still ran for almost 175 on OU despite a horrible performance by Vince Young throwing the ball and that was their worst showing of the year.

Bottom line is Texas has lots of questions to answer, their offensive coordinator is not very good and Mack Brown does not have history on his side to make people feel good in games such as this. However, this is a good Texas team that will come to play and their defense will play very tough. Texas will pound the football and run for yards with Benson and Young regardless. Young is not Elway but he will surprise people who judge him off his dreadful OU performance. I certainly won't guarantee a Texas win or cover but they easily have the ability to control this game. Those of you predicting a UM blowout or easy cover need to get realistic. Everyone loves to bash Texas 24/7 but most of you don't even know their team. I would bet Texas long before I start declaring UM a lock.

Just my take.

 

[Mjllomb]

Young is completing 70% of his passes after Missouri. Texas lost last year because we played without inspiration, just like Cal will do this year. Mack Brown, besides OU, does rather well against tough competition. Its amazing that you people think that Texas, who went 10-1 w/ a SOS of #8 deserves it more than CAL, who went 10-1 w/ a SOS of #28.


Pac-2 lovers say Cal out-yardaged USC and really won. Well then, USC shouldn't be playing for the NC. Aurubn and OU never let a team out-yardage them. And if that argument is OK, Texas had over 600 yards of offense against Kansas, so in that sense, we killed them.

Do yall watch the games or just post off of what you hear? Do you actually look at the numbers?

Cal almost lost @ HOME to Oregon. Wait you say, they had 2 TO's and would have dominated them. Well, Texas turned the ball over twice in the redzone and would have scored against OU other than that. Texas really held OU to 6 points, as the late trash TD inflated the score. IF it weren't for THOSE TO's it would have been a different story...

Jesus, you guys pound the line and I'll wait so I can get Texas at -4.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Young is TERRIBLE ...

Worse mechanics of any qb that has played Div I ball in the last 3 decades ... kid has one chance of playing in the NFL .. learn how to run that fade route right now

Big game + Mack Brown = FLAT

Young was exposed by Oklahoma for the Ovehyped version of a qb he truely is ... Young would not start at the Univ of Iowa @ qb as Tate is the best Sophmore QB in the country

Texas fans: BOL if your team will be riding the shoulders of Young the next 2 yrs ....

Great athlete: YES he is and will make a nice wideout in the NFL with his size

Great qb: NEVER HAS BEEN ... NEVER WILL BE as he is the Non QB version of Randall Cunningham

Hope Michigan trashes Texas like Iowa did in the mid 80's ...

 

[erac]

blah blah blah

People are providing reasonable information to help inform and you do nothing but repeat mindless dribble. No one here is calling Vince Young Joe Montana but he is better than you seem to realize. Even if he couldn't throw a lick he can move the offense with his feet regardless of how many people are on the line. If people like you are all over Michigan, I will make a killing on Texas.

 

[WCBias]

Enterprise Rent-A-Car...

Just like you made a killing last year on Texas!

 

[CRANDELL]

All we can hope for is total embarassment for Texas leading to Mac Brown being fired in total humiliation. I would love to see whiney, begging, pleading, ON YOUR KNEES Mac Brown will get hit in the mouth with an out of bounds pass in route to a 0-85 wipeout.

Crandell


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[docmercer--banned]

Erac:

I live in Austin .... NO HE AINT

He is nothing but a great athlete ... his mechanics are the worse I've ever seen and shut down the running game and Texas is in big trouble

Young is a great athlete .. and would not play one down at qb @ The Univ of Iowa as Drew Tate is by far the superior qb