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I'm about to post 2 articles that i found interesting (its college football related but not sure how much gambling related)

The first article shows the top 15 freshman looking to make an impact this season.

The 2nd article suggests the top qb's for the 2019 draft class.

Enjoy!!

 

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[FONT=&quot]At powerhouse college football programs, it usually takes a while for their top incoming recruits to hit the field. But there are always exceptions.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Some of this year’s blue-chip freshmen are positioned to make an immediate impact in 2018, whether it be as key role players or starters. Given the pedigree of some of these schools, there may be a few surprises.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Read on to find out which first-year football phenoms are bound to make a splash on Saturdays this year.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Note: Recruiting rankings and information courtesy of 247Sports.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Patrick Surtain Jr., cornerback, Alabama[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The son of an 11-year NFL veteran who played his same position, there’s a strong enough pedigree alone to believe Surtain has a bright future on the gridiron.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]But the young man isn’t resting on any laurels or counting on any preemptive coronation based in name recognition. Surtain is heading to the mother of all programs in Tuscaloosa, yet has a real chance to contribute in a big way as a true freshman.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Coach Nick Saban hasn’t shied away from playing recent arrivals in the past, particularly in the secondary. Minkah Fitzpatrick started as a freshman and played all over the place on the back end, eventually being chosen by the Miami Dolphins in the first round of the 2018 NFL draft.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Funny enough, Surtain’s father played for the Dolphins to begin his pro career. This feels like one of those singularity alignments. In any event, Surtain is the No. 1 cornerback in the country and will be in the starting lineup somewhere when the season starts, largely due to the departures of Fitzpatrick and fellow NFL draftee Anthony Averett.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Micah Parsons, linebacker, Penn State[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Nittany Lions are known for churning out great linebackers, and their next great one may well be the 5-star Parsons. Strength coach Dwight Galt recently remarked how Parsons is a “monster” and is already showing good leadership, per PennLive.com’s Greg Pickel.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Parsons lined up all over the place on defense at the prep level, but appears poised to make an impact at linebacker. He has natural pass-rushing ability due to his high school experience at defensive end and boasts uncanny instincts when it comes to taking proper pursuit angles.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Already with a fine arsenal of moves to shed blocks and the high football IQ to set the edge when necessary, Parsons is beyond his years as a defender. Don’t be surprised if Penn State deploys him all over the place on defense to keep opponents baffled as to how to block him.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lorenzo Lingard, running back, Miami[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As the only 5-star recruit by 247Sports’ measure that the Hurricanes added, Lingard is the prime candidate to make his mark on “The U” in swift fashion.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lingard is the second-ranked back in the country and enrolled early to participate in spring practice and to run track for Miami. He’s got that type of explosiveness and speed, not to mention a willingness to get on campus as quickly as possible to study the offense.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Despite the fact that he runs a little too upright, Lingard can work on his fundamentals and should add some more weight to help him take more punishment before football gets underway in the fall. Even if his running style doesn’t change much, the frosh possesses breakaway speed the other backs on the roster can’t claim to have.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Considering Miami lost its last three games this past season to finish 10-3, it’s unlikely coach Mark Richt will pass up a potential spark plug like Lingard to ignite the offense, even if he’s a little raw and lacks experience.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Justin Shorter, wide receiver, Penn State[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The team already has established receivers like Juwan Johnson and Deandre Thompkins, but could deploy Shorter in certain situations. Like Spiker in Washington, Shorter stands to benefit from a seasoned veteran signal-caller in Trace McSorley, who will be eager to run the show now that freakish running back Saquon Barkley has gone pro.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Barkley is impossible to replace, so it stands to reason Penn State will lean on McSorley’s arm more so in 2018. However, he did lose his leading receiver, DaeSean Hamilton, and tight end Mike Gesicki, who matched Hamilton last season for a team-leading nine touchdown catches.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That creates a spot for Shorter to step up. Listed by 247Sports at 6-foot-4 and 226 pounds, the 5-star receiver has prototypical size and should be invaluable in the scoring zone, helping make up for some of Gesicki’s lost red-zone production and ability to stretch the field.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]What’s scary about Shorter, the No. 1 receiver in the class, is he’s agile, laterally quick and fast enough to play in the slot and can take the punishment of going over the middle of the field. That should make him useful in a number of ways in his maiden college season.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Caden Sterns, defensive back, Texas[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No one in the Longhorns’ 2018 class rates higher on 247Sports than Sterns. Texas also landed 4-star safety DeMarvion Overshown, but Sterns figures to be the surest bet to start from Week 1 given his gaudy 5-star billing and status as the No. 1 safety in the class—and top overall player from the Lone Star State.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sterns played some receiver in high school, so his ball skills are obvious, evident too in the fact that he recorded 11 interceptions over his past three seasons. But he also racked up 100 tackles as a senior, proving he can come up and support in the running game.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The combination of Sterns’ coverage skills and physicality could land him at either safety spot. It depends where the coaching staff wants to put him. It could even come to pass that Sterns plays cornerback. That type of versatility is just what the Longhorns secondary needs to ensure the defense continues trending in the right direction this year.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Trevor Lawrence, quarterback, Clemson[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Kelly Bryant did a fine job stepping in for his celebrated predecessor Deshaun Watson, guiding the Tigers to the College Football Playoff. That alone was a feat Bryant should be proud of.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That being said, Lawrence is the top-ranked freshman nationally by 247Sports. He has so much more talent as a passer than Bryant, whose weaknesses were exposed when he completed 18 of 36 passes for 124 yards and two picks in the playoff loss to Alabama.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lawrence can probably do better than that. If he isn’t getting play packages early in the season, it’d be a surprise. The frosh isn’t as fleet of foot as Bryant, yet he can escape and run when he must and isn’t slow by any means. His superior passing skill set of arm strength and accuracy should ultimately result in Lawrence being the starter, if not at the dawn of the season, some point down the line. That is, if Clemson really wants to win a national championship.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This isn’t meant to bash Bryant, but he only threw 13 touchdowns to eight interceptions in 2017. I’ll bet Lawrence can do better even in his first year.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Terrace Marshall, wide receiver, LSU[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Prior starting quarterback Danny Etling is gone, leaving a void at the most important position. The cast of wide receivers is scant, with D.J. Chark now in the NFL. Chark had 874 yards receiving in 2017, by far the most on the team. Next-closest in that department was backup running back Darrel Williams at 331 yards.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It’s asking a lot for Marshall to step in as a prominent skill player for a competitive SEC team and shine. Nevertheless, he has the tools to be an instant stud. The 5-star prospect is the third-ranked wideout in the country. SB Nation reported Marshall is 6-foot-3, 215 pounds and runs a 4.5-second 40-yard dash, which is the type of supreme skill set that will help him hit the field in Baton Rouge. The Tigers have few other options in their returning core, so Marshall is bound to be their most explosive target.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Dante Stills, defensive lineman, West Virginia[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Big 12 isn’t big on defense. It would behoove the Mountaineers to enlist any help they can get on that side of the ball regardless of college reps. They must complement a high-powered offense led by quarterback Will Grier, a possible first-round NFL draft prospect.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Stills, a home-state product, may well fit the bill. At 6-foot-4 and 265 pounds, he blends ideal size with stunning quick-twitch athleticism to evade blockers. What stands out as well is how he can already understand leverage and play with a lower pad level, which shows he pays attention to the finer details and can excel in the next phase of his career sooner rather than later.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]With some time to adjust throughout his freshman campaign to the fast pace of conference play, Stills could be just the type of pocket-collapsing force West Virginia requires to take the next step and truly challenge Oklahoma for the Big 12 title.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The team certainly has the offensive firepower to do so. It’s going to take someone like Stills, who compares rather favorably to an in-development, younger Aaron Donald, to put the Mountaineers over the top.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Emory Jones, quarterback, Florida[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Gators head coach Dan Mullen recently said the only incumbent quarterback with any experience, Feleipe Franks, that no one he’d coached since Cam Newton had such tremendous arm talent, per SEC Country’s Ryan Young.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That doesn’t mean Franks has locked up the starting gig, though, and in the highly competitive SEC, Mullen is going to make sure he has the best chance to win. This may mean turning to a true freshman in Jones to steer the offense.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It’s not like Franks lit the world on fire last season—he completed just 54.6 percent of his passes with nine touchdowns and eight interceptions, averaging a meager 6.8 yards per attempt despite his rocket arm.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Franks had a long run of 79 yards in 2017 and is hard man to bring down but isn’t the same type of quick-twitch athlete the 4-star Jones is. Mullen oversaw the development of Dak Prescott at Mississippi State, and Jones is cut more from that cloth, which should ultimately get him on the field as the starter in 2018. Even as a high schooler, too, Jones showed a knack for downfield passing ability, so he has more than enough arm to justify starting right away.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Adrian Martinez, quarterback, Nebraska[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]New head coach and former Cornhuskers quarterback Scott Frost has some unique insight into how to thrive under center in Lincoln, which he’s sure to pass on to Martinez, the landmark first signal-caller he successfully recruited to his alma mater.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Martinez is in a unique position to be mentored and groomed to play immediately. Frost has the chance to prove himself right out of the gate by finding Nebraska’s quarterback of the foreseeable future in his first recruiting class. The mutual incentive is especially high here.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Also worth noting is the fact that Frost started McKenzie Milton as a true freshman in his prior coaching stint with UCF. By his second year, Milton was guiding the team to a perfect season with 37 touchdown passes to just nine interceptions.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That type of rapid development is something Martinez could well be in for. He’s a 4-starrecruit, and Milton was only a 3-star prospect with far less size to boot.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Bryan Addison, wide receiver, UCLA[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]An uneven and ultimately unsuccessful tenure in the NFL has former Oregon coach Chip Kelly back in the college game, where his tactics seem better suited. Among the players he’s brought in through his initial recruiting haul, Addison stands out as the most intriguing and logical choice to contribute from the jump.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Bruins are in the unenviable position of replacing an NFL-bound quarterback in Josh Rosen. A new system, a new triggerman — possibly redshirt sophomore Devon Modster — and more importantly: a new cast of top pass-catchers for UCLA. Last year’s leading receiver Jordan Lasley went to the pros, and No. 2 wideout Darren Andrews graduated.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Recruited as an athlete who can also excel as a defensive back, Addison towers over defenders at 6-foot-5 and is a lethal red-zone threat who can high-point the ball well, further extending an already huge catch radius. Junior Theo Howard is the only returning receiver who was a bigger contributor last season and stands at only 6-foot.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Tight end Caleb Wilson had only one touchdown in 2017 and wasn’t a go-to target close to the end zone. That leaves a pretty clear role for Addison to potentially fill. It may not be until later in his career that the offensive-minded Kelly tries Addison out on defense.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Marquis Spiker, wide receiver, Washington[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The high-powered Huskies offense has recently produced NFL receivers in John Ross and Dante Pettis. With that type of recent track record developing the position, Washington fans should be optimistic about Spiker’s arrival.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Due to Pettis’ departure, there are more balls to go around from senior quarterback Jake Browning, whose leadership should accelerate Spiker’s understanding of the system as he vies for a spot with the first-team offense.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Spiker projects well to get into the receiver rotation as a playmaker because he’s a wiry, 6-foot-3 athlete, a 4-star recruit who already shows advanced route-running ability, incredible acceleration, the knack to track downfield throws — and not to mention, the strength of catching purely with his hands rather than bodying the ball so much. All those attributes may result in Spiker emerging as a star in the making after only one year in Washington.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Justin Fields, quarterback, Georgia[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Bulldogs need an X-factor to get past Alabama, and Fields may well be the answer. He’s the top-ranked dual-threat quarterback prospect in the 2018 class and the second-ranked player overall, only behind Clemson’s Lawrence.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fields has his work cut out to steal playing time from rising sophomore Jake Fromm, who took control as a first-year in his own right and led Georgia to the national title game. That resulted in a loss at the hands of the Crimson Tide, though, even with future NFL running backs in Nick Chubb and Sony Michel to help the cause.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perhaps the added juice Fields can bring with his immense athleticism and rushing ability will give Bama fits — he ran for north of 2,000 yards over his last two seasons in high school. The only problem is, a two-quarterback system can take both players out of rhythm, so head coach Kirby Smart must be delicate should he opt to stick Fields out there in non-garbage time, critical game situations.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Nicholas Petit-Frere, offensive lineman, Ohio State[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Buckeyes lost an extremely versatile trench player Billy Price and offensive tackle Jamarco Jones to the NFL draft, which means there’s a chance for a newcomer to step up and claim a place in the starting five up front.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Petit-Frere, albeit admittedly more of a wild card compared to others on this list, is a prime candidate, coming to Columbus as the nation’s best offensive tackle prospect for good reason. He’s incredibly nimble on his feet and plays with a high motor and tenacity. That ought to translate well to Ohio State’s spread, run-heavy offense, as Petit-Frere will be able to keep up with the pace of play and have the stamina to pass block.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Both tackles spots are being decided between Isaiah Prince and Thayer Munford, so there’s at least a chance for Petit-Frere to push for one of those spots, more likely at right tackle. Football Outsiders ranked the Buckeyes No. 92 in sack rate on passing downs last year, signaling plenty of room for improvement there. Petit-Frere doesn’t play the flashiest position, yet his contributions should keep OSU’s bona fide offense operating at an elite level, earning him recognition for his precocious abilities.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Adam Anderson, linebacker, Georgia[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sophomore Monty Rice had a big spring game and should solidify a starting spot at mike linebacker, but Anderson is top outside linebacker in the nation and has a real chance to crack the rotation somewhere.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Although he’s a little undersized at this point at just 214 pounds, he’ll be putting on some bulk as his college career progresses — and he has enough of a skill set to contribute right away.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Georgia sports a 3-4 alignment, featuring a Jack position that is a hybrid of linebacker and defensive end. The dynamic Anderson played with his hand in the dirt in high school and could either rotate in at Jack or spell two presumptive senior starters at outside ‘backer in D’Andre Walker and Walter Grant.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Roquan Smith and Lorenzo Carter both went on to the NFL this year, so there’s definitely an opening at linebacker for Anderson to shine as a situational pass-rusher and keep the Bulldogs’ front seven fresh.[/FONT]

 

[Knightrofins]

[h=1]Which Quarterbacks Will Rise to the Top of the 2019 NFL Draft Class?[/h][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]

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Baker Mayfield was drafted into the NFL two months ago, six years after Russell Wilson and 17 draft cycles after Drew Brees. If you look closely, you won’t find too many torchbearers for the vertically-challenged passer in the years between those three.
Should Mayfield, the No. 1 pick of the 2018 draft, be an inspiration for the six-foot-and-under crowd? Without question. Is he a trend-setter? Tap the brakes. Brees’s success was supposed to open the minds of NFL decision-makers on the established decision-makers for quarterbacks. It didn’t. Wilson’s breakthrough was seen as the potential front end on how teams viewed the position. It wasn’t.
Last July, pegging Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen for the first round of the 2018 NFL draft was an easy bet. Those players hadn’t just produced at their respective colleges, but they were prototypes for the ideal NFL quarterback. Mayfield wasn’t considered to be a first-rounder at this point, but he wasn’t exactly anonymous either. The 2017 Heisman winner finished in the top-five of the voting for college football’s most prestigious award in ’16 and ’15.
But it’s a different story as we come out of the 2018 draft cycle and move into ’19. There’s a glaring absence of prototypical first-round quarterbacks, and predicting which passers could be drafted on the first night (if any at all) is anyone’s guess—and based on the type of QBs that college teams are recruting, NFL teams might not have a choice on what kind of quarterback they want to draft for much longer.
“This is not up to the NFL,” says Trent Dilfer, head coach for the high school Elite 11 quarterbacks program and a former NFL first-round pick himself. “This is up to college coaches. And what college coaches want is—if I’m going to simplify it the most—competitors that have twitch in their body and their arm.”​

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In the 2019 quarterbacks draft class, there are players who are closer to the prototype, in Auburn’s Jarrett Stidham and Missouri’s Drew Lock. You have guys who are a little different, in West Virginia’s Will Grier and Penn State’s Trace McSorley. As Dilfer says, “They’re going to be more about tastes than traits.”
“The game has become about playing fast, throwing fast, getting to the receiver fast, it’s precision and speed, not power and stature,” Dilfer says. “It’s about precision and twitch, not power and stature.”
Case-in-point: The walk-on Mayfield beat out a 6' 5", 209-pound, four-star recruit (Cody Thomas is now playing baseball in the Dodgers’ organization) to earn the starting position at Oklahoma, after winning the job at Texas Tech from 6' 5" Davis Webb two years earlier. Another example? Penn State’s six-foot, 198-pound senior, Trace McSorley, has held off a freakish 6' 4" athlete, in Tommy Stevens, for three years in Happy Valley. So what does this trend mean?
“What you’re going to see is a radical shift in how quarterbacks are evaluated,” Dilfer added. “I don’t think Baker’s a pioneer. I think Baker’s a product of what’s happening. College coaches value certain things more than they used to, and those are going to be the guys that are going to play. And then as those guys play, our minds are going to get wrapped around the fact that you don’t have to be John Elway or Ben Roethlisberger anymore.”
Michigan is another team buying into the trend of smaller quarterbacks, having brought in shorter, quicker Shea Patterson this year as a transfer to compete with prototypes Brandon Peters and Dylan McCaffrey. And as Dilfer said, there’s not a whole lot the NFL can do to stem the tide as the rest of the sport adjusts what it’s looking for at the position.
“If Baker has a lot of success, I think it could continue to lower the barrier to entry,” said ex-NFL quarterback Jordan Palmer, who prepared Darnold and Allen for the ’18 draft and is working with some of next year’s class this summer. “You used to have to be 6' 4" and 225 pounds, and you don’t have to be that anymore. You gotta be able to play the game. And with the RPOs, the pure progression passing, where guys aren’t having to read coverage, because there’s a percentage of plays called in the NFL now where that’s not required, it does lower the barrier for entry.”

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So we’ve got Lock, Stidham, Grier and McSorley. There’s NC State’s Ryan Finley, who flashed on the NFL radar briefly last fall, and Duke’s Daniel Jones, who’s emerging as a darkhorse. There’s Buffalo’s Tyree Jackson, a 6' 7", 245-pound player who’s creeping into the consciousness of the pros and UCF’s McKenzie Milton who, at 5' 11" and 185 pounds, is on the complete opposite of the measureables spectrum.
Add it up, and there’s lot of potential, and lots of unknown, which should make the fall fun to watch.
“I don’t think from a talent perspective those guys too far off, they’ll be right there with last year’s class,” Palmer said. “I don’t see a drop off in talent between some of the guys in last year’s class that went high and some of the guys in this year’s class. ... I think this class is better than people think. And there’s going to be a couple guys who put together great years and rise here at the end.”
“It’s not that [the quarterbacks are] not as good as last year, there’s not going to be as much need, so the quarterbacks aren’t going to be the main conversation piece for the next nine months,” said Dilfer. “So taking all that into consideration, I’d say Stidham and Lock will be in the narrative all year long as first-round picks. The other ones, it will be a taste conversation. Where do they fit? Who needs one?”
With the help of Palmer, Dilfer and a few scouts, we’ll take a look at the horses in this race—including both the guys who look like thoroughbreds, and the guys who don’t …
Drew Lock, senior, Missouri. Lock, who’s 6' 4" and 225 pounds, was a Division I basketball recruit coming out of high school. He can make every throw, but he has yet to post a season with a 60% completion rate. Some scouts are comparing him to Josh Allen, which is both good (Allen was uber-talented and a Top 10 pick) and not good (he was panned for accuracy issues).
“He’s been a one-read quarterback strictly, with a good arm, and accuracy that’s very poor on short and mid-range throws,” one AFC scouting director said. “He throws a good deep ball, he’s weird that way, like a guy that’s just really good off the tee. The short game is what he’s lacking, struggles placing it, and he struggles if his primary receiver is covered. But he’s big, good athlete, and this is a big year, because he’ll do some pro-style stuff.”
Derek Dooley, Mizzou’s new offensive coordinator, spent four seasons with the Cowboys, and his pro-style background should help scouts get a more complete picture of him. “He’s got incredible arm strength, he’s an awesome kid, he’s a learner, he’s a leader, all that stuff,” Dilfer said. “He’s just played in a system, like Bryce Petty did, where they just don’t learn a lot of football. That’s until this year.” For what it’s worth, word is that Lock looked great throwing it at the Manning Passing Academy in June.
Jarrett Stidham, redshirt junior, Auburn. Once a superstar recruit of former Baylor coach Art Briles, scandal in Waco threw the 6' 3" Stidham’s college career influx for over a year—then he landed on solid ground in the SEC, making second-team all-conference last fall. While there’s some disagreement on what type of prospect he is, everyone agrees he throws the prettiest ball. “He’s got the best arm talent,” said one NFC exec. “He looks like a very talented kid.” As is the case with Lock, there’s skepticism around the simple offense he runs at Auburn, but by all accounts, he’s a sharp kid.
Will Grier, redshirt senior, West Virginia. Grier first popped on the radar in 2015 as a redshirt freshman, winning the job at Florida and showing a ton of promise early. Then he failed a PED test and transferred, reemerging last fall and winning Big 12 Newcomer of the Year honors while throwing for 34 touchdowns at West Virginia. Weirdly, there’s some question over his size—he’s listed at 6' 3" and 217 pounds, but some who have been around him swear he’s smaller than that, which has led to some Mayfield comparisons. “I get the same feeling on him I had on Baker,” said the NFC exec. “I expected an undersized guy with an average arm. When I left Oklahoma this year, I felt like Baker could make every throws. And I had the same feeling watching Grier against Virginia Tech—he’s a gamer, he’s got moxie, he has athleticism, and he can make the throws.”
Justin Herbert, junior, Oregon. At 6' 6" and 225 pounds, Herbert boasts a live arm, athleticism, and a career completion percentage of 64.7 with a 32-7 TD-INT ratio. However it seems like the NFL, and even guys like Dilfer and Palmer, are scrambling to catch up on him because he was a late bloomer and overlooked recruit, and he wasn’t draft-eligible last year. When I asked the AFC scouting director if he knew anything about Herbert, his answer was to the point: “No, but my scouts love him. They think he’s a premier guy.” The questions I’ve heard on him regard his toughness, and his ability to work through progressions, which makes him, in the scout’s eyes, a work in progress.

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Ryan Finley, redshirt senior, NC State. Last year when I asked around if there was a potential out-of-nowhere prospect like Mitchell Trubisky in the pipeline, I heard Finley’s name. But he cooled off late last season and decided to return for a fifth year. The one-time Boise State transfer is up to fifth in school history in career passing yards (6,557) and seventh in touchdown passes (35), and had a streak of 339 attempts without an interception broken last year. It will be interesting to see how he’s scrutinized this fall. Though he’s Academic All-ACC and pursuing a Master’s, questions have come up about his personality and what he’s like as a teammate.
Trace McSorley, redshirt senior, Penn State. Stylistically, he’ll be compared most to Mayfield—McSorley plays a breakneck style and has piled up wins in college. And as you might expect, at six-feet tall (maybe), he’s polarizing. “I love him, he’s like GI Joe,” said the AFC scouting director. “He’s not an NFL quarterback, but he’s such an awesome college football players. He’s not as good an athlete as Baker or Manziel, not as accurate either. He’s like them in that he’s a run-around guy who makes plays. But those guys were really accurate.”
Dilfer, for one, disagrees on that one. “I’d say Trace probably has more arm talent than Baker does,” he said. “I’d say Trace is probably a little thicker, has a little more stature, and is a little better athlete. Trace was a DI safety prospect, he’s one of the unique competitors I’ve ever been around. He is fantastic.”
Daniel Jones, redshirt junior, Duke. NFL people seem genuinely intrigued by this 6' 5", two-time team captain who, via coach David Cutcliffe, has had pro-style training and access to the Mannings. “He operates in the pocket and moves just like the Mannings,” said the NFC exec. “His feet are always moving. He’s talented, it’s just consistency and decision-making with him, he needs to clean up the turnovers. But it would not shock me if he winds up in first-round consideration. I saw him play Northwestern his freshman year, you could see he could make every throw. He’s a big, strong kid.”
Clayton Thorson, redshirt senior, Northwestern. Thorson has intrigued scouts for a while, but he’s inconsistent, and ahead of his fourth year as the Wildcats’ starter, he’s coming back from a torn ACL. At 6' 4" and 225 pounds with a live arm, he’s worth watching, though there are questions on when he’ll be ready to play.
Shea Patterson, Junior, Michigan. Listed at 6' 2" (though most NFL types believe he’s closer to six feet), Patterson is another player who doesn’t fit the NFL quarterback prototype. He started 10 games over two years at Ole Miss, flashing athleticism, a big arm and playmaking ability.
“The Ole Miss tape shows he has the twitch, the precision part needs to grow, which I think it will at Michigan,” Dilfer said. “At Michigan, they’re all about making a lot of decisions, run game, pass game, protections, he’s going to have to do all that stuff, and you have NFL coaches coaching him. He’s going to bring a new look to Michigan football.”
Tyree Jackson, redshirt junior, Buffalo. An absolute horse at 6' 7" and 245 pounds, Jackson was very raw in 2016 but showed progress last year, and is getting some NFL love now. Palmer will work with him later in the summer, but hadn’t studied him yet, nor had the scouts I spoke with. He’s got athletic ability, that’s for sure, and a level demeanor, per Palmer, making him another name to file away. As is …
McKenzie Milton, redshirt junior, UCF. He was the heart and soul of an undefeated team last year. The problem? He’s listed at 5' 11" and 185 pounds. “The kid who blew everyone’s mind that none of us knew anything about, because he only went to one Elite 11 camp three years ago that none of us were at, because it was late in the process, and is such a great kid that he came back to be a counselor because he wanted to be part of our process is McKenzie Milton,” Dilfer said. “This kid, first of all, just as a leader, as a person, is a 10. He’s a little guy, he’s super little, but he plays huge. His arm is electric, it is off-the-charts electric, it’s Tua Tagovailoa-electric, it is unique. He has unique release, unique twitch and unique power in his arm for a little guy. That ball is scary good.” But again, there’s that caveat—and while it’s easier to get around than it used to, it’s still there for everyone to see.

 

[The Pooh]

Interesting, but opinion only. I do not put a lot of faith in what rags have to say.

 

[Knightrofins]

Another article which i liked. Again, nothing gambling related but a fun college football read. I like the last rivalry the best. Not sure if its ever been mentioned on this forum or not???

With the 2017-18-college football season almost upon us, it’s time to re-examine one of the best parts of any sport: the rivalries. In doing so, we must set aside all preconceived notions and welcome in the new order — enemies forged in the Twitter fires, divided by conference realignments and created by the coveted College Football Playoff spots.

Here are your new, revamped college football rivalries heading into the 2018 season.

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Auburn vs. Georgia

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Both of these SEC powerhouse teams have far more famous opponents despite the fact that the "Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry" is one of the five most-played rivalries in college football. Social dynamics and geographic proximity aside, the UGA-Auburn grudge match has become a who’s who of the Southeastern Conference. It’s subversive, and it defies rivalry logic.

In the last 25 meetings, the home team has won on only 10 occasions. Georgia holds a very slight 58-56-8 record over the Tigers, and it's now expanded beyond the SEC to become a national affair. Georgia may have outsmarted Auburn more often in recent years, but the Tigers routed the Dawgs in regular-season play last November, creating doubt around Kirby Smart’s squad. Georgia managed some revenge in the SEC Championship Game, making this year's contest anybody’s game.

Smart will be working with an extremely balanced offense led by sophomore quarterback Jake Fromm, wide receiver Riley Ridley and running back D’Andre Swift. Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn will have to put his lucrative contract to work if he wants repeat wins over both of the most recent National Championship Game participants.

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Stanford vs. USC
Many around college football don’t consider West Coast rivalries to be very real. Maybe it’s the laid-back nature, the spread offense or the "what’s your deal?” handshake disputes. But trust me, there are no good vibrations between Stanford and USC.

This is another rivalry as old as time that has been reborn for millennials on the wings of the Jim Harbaugh-Pete Carroll feud, Stanford’s recent rash of Heisman runner-ups and USC’s coaching carousel. The games between these two hard-nosed teams are just plain good, featuring one-possession finales and triple-overtime finishes.

The best news is they play each other early, so you don’t have to wait until Thanksgiving for a good, old-fashioned fight. The Trojans hold a 59-32-3 edge but have struggled in recent years, taking nothing but L’s since 2014 — until last year’s 42-24 victory. The grudge match continues on The Farm this year, where it will be Bryce Love vs. every returning linebacker USC head coach Clay Helton has to offer.

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Florida Atlantic vs. Florida International
I was less familiar with this rivalry until Lane Kiffin became my favorite follow on Twitter. Fans of both programs love the drama that is the Shula Bowl, named after former Miami Dolphins head coach Don Shula. FIU and FAU have clashed on the football field almost every season in Panthers' program history. In fact, FAU’s only season that didn’t involved FIU was its first in 2001.

The two teams have been conference mates since they both joined the Sun Belt in 2005 and then jumped ship to Conference USA in 2013. This rivalry hasn’t meant much outside of Florida, with neither team competing for a conference title or even going bowling until last season. The Owls are 10-5 in the series, but the teams are tied up 2-2 since 2013, with home-field advantage playing a major role in each win. FAU defeated FIU 52-24 at home last year to clinch the Owls' first-ever berth in the C-USA title game. Then with a decisive win over North Texas, the Owls completed an undefeated conference season, making this rivalry relevant to the rest of the college football world.

This year, keeping up with the Lane Train will be hard for Butch Davis. FIU lost a lot of talent, but the Panthers do get the Owls at home in early November. Davis is known as a master recruiter so prepare for an epic Florida throwdown. Headlining the coming edition of the Shula Bowl are a 24-year-old offensive coordinator (Charlie Weis Jr.), dark horse Heisman candidate (Devin Singletary) and the most prepared backup quarterbacks in college football.

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Oklahoma vs. TCU
This is the downright nastiest, dirtiest of all the new-order rivalries. It is the "Westworld" of college football, not just because of the graphic nature, but also because of the levels of complexity. This is a maze designed by Gary Patterson himself. It started with Bob Stoops, a worthy adversary and kindred spirit — they were the only two of their kind, defensive coordinators lost in an offense-only conference. Then came Lincoln Riley, Baker Mayfield and the innovative offense Oklahoma now boasts, ramping up the rivalry and reminding Patterson he has more to deal with than shaking off the moniker of Texas’ forgotten program.

These two teams have met seven times since 2005, and six of the meetings were decided by one possession. Since TCU joined the Big 12 in 2012, Oklahoma has won four out of five meetings with every game decided on the final possession. That’s what makes this rivalry so great: close, nail-biter games, memorable plays and Mayfield stealing signs.

Now, with Mayfield off in Browner pastures, the Sooners are left with a question mark at quarterback, leaving the Horned Frogs with more than just home-field advantage when the two teams meet in mid-October. Oklahoma does have fluid depth at defensive back as well as a steadfast kicker/punter in Austin Seibert so no matter how many stars Patterson’s QBs and receivers boast, TCU better bring it.

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Colorado vs. Utah
You may think this particular rivalry is an odd choice, boys amongst men even, but the Utes and Buffaloes getting thrown together by conference realignment is poetic, something Mike Leach might write a haiku about.

Fun fact: From 1903 to 1962, Utah and Colorado played almost every year, a total of 57 games. It is the fifth most-played rivalry in Utah’s history and the eight most-played in Colorado’s history. Colorado leads the series 32-29-3, but Utah won last year's game by a score of 34-13. It is a passionate, competitive rivalry, but it is also civil and courteous, which is a nice change of pace.
“A rivalry typically has some bad blood involved in it and some ill feelings, and there is none of that with Colorado,” said Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham to the Denver Post last year.
Utah is the only team to never win the Pac-12 South and Colorado has stood in the Utes' path in the past, so maybe there is more to this Rumble in the Rockies than meets the eye. Plus, fans should be prepared for a feisty battle of the QBs between Utah’s Tyler Huntley and Colorado’s Steven Montez.

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Notre Dame vs. everyone
This rivalry is all-inclusive. The Fighting Irish have played teams from every current FBS conference, except the Sun Belt, which is too sober for that.

Notre Dame has played every team from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and the ACC, but the Irish have played the most games against Navy (89) and USC (87). They have become the rotating rival, the non-affiliated opponent you have to care about because when the Irish win, they matter.

Last year, Brian Kelly’s squad posted a solid 10-win season, and he is looking for a repeat performance this year. Notre Dame hasn’t posted back-to-back 10-win seasons since 1992-93. With Stanford at home, Vanderbilt as the only SEC team on the schedule and USC as the toughest road game, Kelly might just get his wish — especially since the defense returns nine starters, including linebackers Te’von Coney and Drue Tranquill, who combined for 201 tackles.

Notre Dame has rumbled with everyone and rubs elbows with college footballs finest, giving us games we can’t ignore from a team we love to hate.

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UCF vs. Alabama
You knew it was coming, the reigning champ of new-school rivalries. No, we haven’t had enough of UCF’s shenanigans — as we can never have enough of self-proclaimed national champions. EVER. There are three things you need to know about this national championship rivalry.
1.) UCF defeated Alabama 40-38 in 2000, the only time the two teams have met. So technically, the Knights are 1-0 in the series, making them just one of 19 teams with an all-time winning record against the Tide.
2.) Mark Wahlberg, one of the highest-paid actors in America, called the Knights “Co-National Champions” in a video shout-out he did prior to the 2017 NFL Pro Bowl in Orlando. The Knights were also honored for their undefeated season during the Pro Bowl game itself, adding even more fuel to the Bama-UCF fire.
3.) Trophies: Alabama won the CFP trophy with a 26-23 comeback victory over Georgia, but the Knights picked up some hardware that the Tide couldn’t touch: a conference title trophy, a divisional trophy and an in-state rivalry trophy. Surely three is better than one, right?
It is unlikely that UCF would have beaten Alabama last year, but the Knights showed that they definitely earned the right to try. This is my new favorite rivalry, a rivalry for the new college football world, a world where you can be anything you want.

 

[Knightrofins]

A new college football season is nearly upon us, and perhaps you are still mourning the loss of your superstar of choice to some faraway National Football League franchise that will never quite comprehend his brilliance the way you did. The good news about this sport is that the archetypes never cease — one player graduates, and another rises to meet our need for memes and GIFs.

With that in mind, here are some players you might want to zero in on as you prepare to plunge ahead with your college football existence in 2018.

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The New Baker Mayfield: Will Grier, West Virginia

If you miss the unrestrained self-assurance of Mayfield, here is your replacement: a Florida transfer who was suspended after testing positive for a banned substance, who may or may not have an overbearing father, and who is already focused on winning the Heisman Trophy. Grier and Mayfield even play (and look) a little bit alike. If Grier can consistently make throws like this, then he might actually become the next iconoclastic Heisman quarterback.

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The New Saquon Barkley: J.K. Dobbins, Ohio State
Listen, no one is going to match Barkley’s contortions, not to mention his penchant for pole-vaulting defenders, unless a "Westworld" robot iteration of Barry Sanders returns for another season at Oklahoma State. However, among all the gifted running backs in America, Dobbins may not be the best quite yet — that’s probably Stanford’s Bryce Love (more on him in a minute) or Wisconsin’s Jonathan Taylor — but he could be the one with the greatest potential for rampant freakishness.

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The New Bradley Chubb: Ed Oliver, Houston
If you are a fan of defensive line play — and who isn’t except for all those oafish guards and tackles, am I right? — is this the season for you. Chubb is gone from NC State to the Denver Broncos, but an argument can be made that eight of the top 10 players in college football are defensive linemen. Oliver is the best of that group, because what are you supposed to do about a guy who seems impervious to blocks?

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The New Dante Pettis: Tony Pollard, Memphis
The most exciting return man in the recent college football history graduated to Sunday football, but fear not, Pettis acolytes — allow us to introduce you to this Pollard fellow, who has the same ability to revive what may be a dying art form.

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The New Derwin James: Jaquan Johnson, Miami
James was the prototype of the physical, hard-hitting, versatile safety during his two full seasons at Florida State, a guy who was even capable of chasing down Louisville’s Lamar Jackson (and pity the poor receiverwho incurred his wrath). But we can keep this one in-state, because Johnson is the kind of talent who can make a sliding interception on one play, force a fumble on the next and blow up the option the next time around.

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The New Roquan Smith: The Two Devins
The Georgia linebacker who was all over the place during last year’s College Football Playoff is now a Chicago Bear, but here are two dudes who both happened to be named Devin and can satisfy your relentless linebacker craving. There’s Michigan’s Devin Bush, who’s already being referred to by YouTube-highlight hyperbolists as “The Most Terrifying Player in College Football,” and there’s LSU’s Devin White, who is merely billed as “The Fastest Linebacker in the Country.” Your call.

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The New Joel Lanning: Malcolm Perry, Navy
OK, we’ll concede that it’s not quite as dramatic as Lanning’s move from quarterback to linebacker last season for Iowa State, but Perry shifted to slotback for Navy after being buried deep on the depth chart. He was such a dynamic athlete that he took over as the starting quarterback for Navy’s final four games, and yet he threw precisely two passes last season — one was a touchdown and one was an interception. Granted, Navy throws the football with the regularity of a solar eclipse, but it’ll be kind of wild to see what happens when Perry actually does let one fly.

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The New Bryce Love: Bryce Love, Stanford
Maybe you’ve forgotten that the other best running back in the country last season decided to follow up on a 2,000-yard season by coming back for another one as a senior. This is good for all of us, because Love gained a good deal of those yards last season while essentially running on one leg. Therefore, let us set the bar high and proclaim that anything less than 3,000 yards and a Heisman Trophy will be considered an utter disappointment.

 

[Knightrofins]

[FONT=&quot]For 16 years, calls of “We were snubbed” echoed across college football as fans longingly watched another team play for a national championship while their team sat at home. Historically, the sport is no stranger to postseason controversy—witness 1973 Michigan, which was held out of the Rose Bowl by a vote in favor of archrival Ohio State—but no other system consistently broke the hearts of fans quite like the BCS.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As the BCS’s 20th anniversary arrives, we rank the 10 best No. 3 finishers in the rankings, the teams that almost went down in history and maybe could have made noise if the four-team playoff had arrived earlier. There are more snubs worth mentioning like Joey Harrington–led 2001 Oregon, which finished fourth despite a late push to crack the top two, or the 2009 Boise State team that rolled to a 14–0 season but hit a ceiling of sixth in the rankings. This exercise is limited to picking a No. 1 out of the 16 teams that landed at No. 3.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]10. 2013 ALABAMA[/h][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Alabama was ranked No. 1 for the first 11 weeks of the 2013 season, only to see its chances of winning a national title evaporate as Chris Davis went sprinting down the Auburn sideline and into college football history. Reeling from the Kick-Six, the Tide were awarded an at-large BCS bid to the Sugar Bowl to face off against Oklahoma, but that felt like a let down for a team which expected to play for a national championship. Quarterback Trevor Knight shredded the Alabama defense on the way to a 45–31 Sooners victory. This is the only team on this list to not win its bowl game, but Alabama had been impenetrable prior to its final two games of 2013. The defense held opponents to 10 points or less in nine out of its 11 games and pitched three shutouts.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][h=3]9. 2005 PENN STATE[/h][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They were not flashy or exciting, but they got the job done. Led on offense by punishing runners Tony Hunt and Michael Robinson, Penn State averaged 235.5 yards per game on the ground. On defense, the Nittany Lions were anchored by eventual All-Pro defensive end Tamba Hali. Penn State’s only slip-up was a 27–25 loss to Michigan, where the officials put time back on the clock that allowed Chad Henne to find Mario Manningham for a last-second touchdown. The Nittany Lions would finish the season 11–1 and outlast Florida State in a triple-overtime Orange Bowl victory.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]8. 2011 OKLAHOMA STATE[/h][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Oklahoma State had a 4,000-yard passer in Brandon Weeden, a 1,500-yard receiver in Justin Blackmon and a 1,200-yard rusher in Joseph Randle, carving up defenses on the way to a 12–1 season. Unbeaten and ranked second in the country deep into November, the Cowboys appeared to be a lock for the national title game if they could get past rival Oklahoma in the season finale. Much to the college football world’s surprise, Oklahoma State stumbled before Bedlam, losing in double overtime at Iowa State. The Cowboys turned around and dominated their rivals the next week 44–10, but that wasn’t enough to leapfrog Alabama back into No. 2 for a chance to play LSU in the title game. As the controversy raged, they finished the season with a 41–38 overtime win against Andrew Luck and Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Lefty quarterback David Greene and dominant pass rusher David Pollack led the Bulldogs to a 13–1 season and a Sugar Bowl victory over ACC champ Florida State, with Greene throwing for 2,924 yards and 22 touchdowns and Pollack finishing with 14 sacks. Their only loss came by a touchdown to Florida in the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, paving the way for Ohio State to topple Miami in the national title game.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]If it hadn’t been for a four-point loss to Texas in Austin, Nebraska may have had a BCS title to go with its split national title in 1997. Eric Crouch, who went on win the Heisman Trophy in 2001, led a dominant option attack that amassed 265.9 rush yards per game. The Cornhuskers went on to avenge their loss to Texas in the Big 12 championship game and capped the season off with a Fiesta Bowl win over No. 6 Tennessee.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Before UCF disrupted the playoff conversation but after Boise State arrived to demand a seat at the table for mid-majors, there was this TCU team. Led by quarterback Andy Dalton and a tenacious defense, the Horned Frogs breezed through the competition in the Mountain West. But the BCS felt that the Horned Frogs’ strength of schedule was not enough to have a title shot, and they landed in the Rose Bowl opposite Big Ten co-champion Wisconsin. They pulled off a tight 21–19 victory to finish 13–0, leaving us to wonder how they would have matched up with title-game participants Auburn and Oregon.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The 2003 season is one of the seasons that can be pointed to as the death of the BCS. At the end of the year, three one-loss teams were in contention: USC, LSU, and Oklahoma. USC was atop both the AP and Coaches' polls, while LSU was No. 2. The logical choice would be to have those two duke it out on the field to determine a champion, right? Wrong—the BCS chose to go with No. 3 Oklahoma over the Trojans. That being said, USC was an excellent team. Led by two future Heisman winners, Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush, the Trojans sliced through defenses with a dynamic passing and rushing attack on their way to a Rose Bowl win over Michigan and an AP national title. Their only loss came to Cal in triple overtime, a team led by a little-known JUCO transfer named Aaron Rodgers.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]3. 2008 TEXAS[/h][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The most important position on the field is quarterback, and when yours passes for 3,859 yards and 34 touchdowns with nearly a 77% completion percentage, your team normally succeeds. Colt McCoy laid waste to defenses in the 2008 season, leading the Longhorns to a 12–1 season. If it hadn’t been for the late-game heroics of Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree in Lubbock to deal Texas its only loss and force a weird three-way tie for the Big 12 South that sent Oklahoma to the conference title game, this Texas team would have been in position to play for a national title. The Longhorns had four wins over top-11 opponents and finished their season off with a win in the Fiesta Bowl over No. 10 Ohio State.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]The Hurricanes were loaded with NFL talent: Ed Reed, Jeremy Shockey, Jonathan Vilma, Clinton Portis. Controversy swirled around this season, as Florida State, which Miami beat earlier in the season, was chosen to play in the BCS championship game instead. An early-September loss to eventual Rose Bowl champ Washington held Miami out of the national title game, but Butch Davis’s squad rattled off 10 straight wins to start the program’s record 34-game unbeaten streak and topped No. 7 Florida in the Sugar Bowl.[/FONT]

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[The Pooh]

Only a complete and total fool would post something like that. We are getting tired of your UCF homer caca. Are you begging to be kicked out of here? Knock off the UCF caca before you really get yourself in deep trouble in here. The real players (of which you are NOT) are getting sick and tired of it.

 

[Knightrofins]

Pooh,

i really hope your college football handicapping is better than your insults and threats b/c you pretty much suck at the ladder.

I havent responded to your posts in other threads as I am watching you slowly get buried by other members of the forum.

Still not sure why you are talking so much JUNK to me. You haven’t been here that long. Why are u trying to be the BIG DADDY????

 

[The Pooh]

And just who is burring me? Names please. I will make sure to apologize to them. Everyone of them. Now do not include yourself in this because you are really rather meaningless to me. The others in here are not. Even though I do not always agree with them, I do respect them and their opinions because they have earned my respect. They have demonstrated the knowledge and ability to hold a decent football conversations You, on the other hand, have not. So I am waiting for you to send me the names of all of those people who are burring me. For your sake, you had better send them and had better be right or you are going to have to answer to many people in here.

 

[Knightrofins]

This coming from a person saying that a hurricane didn’t cancel games last season and that a game was scheduled last season which is actually going to be played 3 months into the future.

Bring your people here for me to answer to (that was funny)

stop bringing JUNK in here BIG DADDY

 

[The Pooh]

That is what we all knew. You can't prove anything because none if it was true. Typical lying loser. Here is the way it is going to work. First, I am the Pooh, no one else. You are just embarrassed because you are getting your butt whipped by a lady. Live with it. Second. Clover has thrown you out of his post. I have now thrown you out of mine. This is a gambling site, not a site for some loser to go running his mouth about a second rate college with a second rate team. You admit you know nothing about College Football Gambling, so stay out unless you want to post something regarding gaming. You will stay out of my threads. Next, since you have the maturity of an 8 year old, you will now be known as "Beaver Cleaver" in here. Only 8 year olds root for EVERY team in the state they live in. Now say goodbye Beaver.

 

[Knightrofins]

How can you kick me out of "your thread" when i started this thread?

BTW, love the Leave it to beaver reference!! A series that has been off the air for 55 years!!!

I'll give you a reference from my generation "Finkle is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkle"

Now please get that JUNK out of hear. Got me BIG DADDY???