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http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/3/124657/0595

Bush's "19 words"
by kos
Thu Feb 3rd, 2005 at 09:46:57 PST

Bush said:

And best of all, the money in the account is yours, and the government can never take it away.


Lies.

As the WaPo explains: If a worker sets aside $1,000 a year for 40 years, and earns 4 percent annually on investments, the account would grow to $99,800 in today's dollars, but the government would keep $78,700 -- or about 80 percent of the account. The remainder, $21,100, would be the worker's. With a 4.6 percent average gain over inflation, the government keeps more than 70 percent. With the CBO's 3.3 percent rate, the worker is left with nothing but the guaranteed benefit.
The wingers loved to dismiss Bush's Yellowcake lie by counting words.



So we'll spare them the trouble -- this one was 19 words long.

Update: A reader who understand this stuff better than me writes: I see from the early comments that people find this hard to believe. And it is astonishing -- but completely true. The policy wonks call this the "clawback" provision -- the government 'claws back' most of what you make to fund the system. In fact, they claw back the principal plus the assumed 3% annual gain EVEN FOR A WORKER WHO EARNED LESS THAN 3%, so you could earn 2% a year and lose $$$ on the deal! As for why they do it: because if they didn't, they would basically have to wipe out the guaranteed benefit entirely to make the numbers add up.

Warning: next administration lie will be: "No, no, you can keep all of your account -- it's the guaranteed benefit that is reduced." Technically true but a canard, because the benefit reduction is based entirely on how much you put in your account. And the 'clawback' terminology tells you exactly what this is about -- taking back the private account earnings. (But you can see the political genius of this design: it will appear to people that they got a lot of $$$ from their private account but almost nothing from the "old SS system," destroying public support for the system.) And BTW, this is all IN ADDITION to the cuts in guaranteed benefits Bush is expected to make for all retirees, regardless of whether you choose to put $$ into an account.
 

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There will be cuts in benefits or means testing or raising the withholding income level eventually regardless of what bush does. But under this mess bush is proposing you add another 2 TRILLION dollars to the debt. And who will pay that...the same young people he's trying to sell this bag-o-crap to.
 

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The above story posted by liberal loonie 919 is b.s. and has been retracted by the Washington Post.
 

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At least your policy of supporting the bankruptcy of America "trickles down" to supporting the bankruptcy of it's future elderly.
 
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At least your policy of supporting the bankruptcy of America "trickles down" to supporting the bankruptcy of it's future elderly.


The only bankruptcy I see is in ideas from the loonie left. Personal savings accounts are long overdue. I say some form of them comes out of Congress this year...despite Dusty Harry Reid and Nancy I Never Blink Pelosi. What a great pair of representatives.
 

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>> The only bankruptcy I see is in ideas from the loonie left.

You must have missed the last four years of record deficit and SS reserve depletion -- guess that's what happens when you close your eyes.
 

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Yes Lander record deficits in DOLLAR terms...don't forget the other side of the equation...RECORD GROWTH. The deficit stood at 4.5% of GDP for 2004. It was 6% back in the early 80's...did the World come to an end?

Bush's current plan aims to cut the deficit in half over the next five years. Will the loonie left help in that goal or just continue crying over losing ANOTHER election?
 

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