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ATX good point:

"He who has the best DUE FACTORS gets hired by the LVSC, the pure numbers are avail to ANYONE. The 11/10 is what beats the public- in addition to the books having an almost unlimited bankroll (by comparison), and the fact that the public has no idea what the NUMBER SHOULD be."

Indeed the human factor makes team sports quite different from a random dice game. The way spreads are set, you must give more points on popular favorites because there are loyal fans willing to throw $ on their team for emotional reasons.

You gotta figure out what a fair spread should be, and take advantage when it is off by a few points. Admittedly it's easier said than done, but if this was an easy way to make $ the freeway would be full of chauffeur driven limo's.
 

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wow...looking back, I totally forgot I made this thread.

Gonna re-apply all the great advice here going into the NBA/NCAAB season. Its still early!!
 

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This article was written by Ted Sevransky, aka "Buzkil" or "Teddy Covers". Ted is a well-respected handicapper and operates the paysite,

No Url's Please

Ted is a very good writer and this article is just one of many which can be found at his site.

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Five secrets that professional handicappers know that every recreational bettor should learn



Most casual bettors don’t make a profit from their sportsbetting hobby. This includes bettors who are relatively sharp as well as those who couldn’t pick a winner if their lives depended on it. That’s not a horrible thing either – if every bettor won, sportsbooks would be going belly up far more often than they do, and bettors would run out of places to play. And many bettors really don’t care very much about earning a long term profit. They like to have some action on games as a form of recreation or excitement, not as an investment decision. Many of these type of bettors are far more interested in TV games than anything else, and they tend to bet more on bigger games, like the Super Bowl or NCAA Tournament.



Much of the industry jargon considers money management as important as picking winners, if not more so. And it certainly is. But throwing around buzzwords like ‘money management’ and describing esoteric concepts like ‘isolate a percentage of bankroll’ and ‘positive expectation bets’ really doesn’t help the fortunes of most recreational bettors. If you, personally, are content with betting for entertainment purposes only than this essay will serve little purpose. But if you wish to be a successful sports bettor, even as an amateur, and earn a profit from your betting over an extended period of time, here are some tips that should help you in that quest.



1) Don’t bet into bad numbers.

Professional handicappers recognize the value of the half point. On the average college basketball Saturday, for example, there are at least ½ dozen games that are won or lost against the spread by a point or less. If he bet on the game, the pro bettor will be on the right side of just about every one of those decisions. He’ll either getting the push when others lost, or he’ll get the win when others pushed. (I use ‘he’ because, to be honest, every professional sports bettor that I know is a man – this is a very segregated industry in that regard). The pro will take the extra time to shop around for the best number at multiple sportsbooks. He’ll have accounts that are funded in enough places to ensure that when he finds the line that he is looking for, he’ll be able to place the bet. And he’ll have an idea of which direction the line is likely to move, enabling him to bet early or late, depending on which time offers an advantageous number. The pro wins by a half point far more often than he loses by the hook. Making a modest 20 bets a week (1000 a year, a number that is on the low side for most professionals), it is not unusual to gain an extra 10 or 15 wins a year and another 10 or 15 pushes just by betting into good numbers. Assuming the bettor is betting a modest 2% of his bankroll on any given play, those 20 or 30 favorable decisions translates into a 40-60% swing in his return on his sportsbetting investment. That’s not chump change, folks, it’s hard earned profit gained one half point at a time!



2) Make more straight bets and fewer parlays.

Professional bettors make the vast majority of their bets as straight bets, not as parlays. For amateurs, the number is closer to 50:50, and there are many, many amateurs who rarely straight bet at all. But the straight bet is the pro’s bread and butter. Professionals are satisfied with the return on investment from a 3-2 day, or a 12-8 week. They are in it for the long haul, not always looking for the quick score that parlays provide. Amateurs are often lured by the big paydays that winning parlays provide, conveniently forgetting that a season largely consisting of steady 2-1 type days will be even more profitable than the big hits that parlays provide even in a good overall season. Straight bettors never curse the 4-1 days – when they pick more winners than losers – because they make a profit every time, while parlay bettors don’t. There’s a reason that every sportsbook in Las Vegas has their parlay cards prominently displayed – frankly, parlays pay the bills at most joints here in town. That’s not to say pro bettors never go for the longshot score, but when they do, they do it for a considerably lesser percentage of their bankroll, and they do it in conjunction with their straight bets, not in lieu of them.



3) Concentrate more on box scores and less on final scores.

It’s easy to look at the final score of a game and make all kinds of false assumptions. This team got killed, that team gave ‘em all they could handle. But without reading game recaps and looking at box scores, you really have no idea of what took place, and what kind of current form the teams you are examining are in. It’s key to handicap games again, after the games are over. What happened that you expected to happen, and what was a surprise? Which things are likely to repeat themselves, and which are something of an anomaly? Here’s an example. The Pistons play the Bulls at home, as nine point favorites, but win by only seven, 97-90. But looking at the box score, it’s clear that Detroit dominated for most of the game. The Pistons won the rebounding battle and forced the Bulls into turnovers. They led by double digits at halftime and after three quarters. Bu the Bulls hit some late shots in garbage time and made the final score closer than the game was. On that same night, the Raptors are nine point favorites to the Nuggets, and win by that same 97-90 margin. But the box score here indicates a whole different story. The Raptors trailed throughout this game, but got hot in the 4th quarter to steal the win. Toronto made an uncharacteristic 27-30 from the free throw line, and hit ten three pointers, while Denver shot just 4-19 in the 4th quarter. By examining the box scores you can recognize that the Pistons are in better form than the Raptors and/or the Nuggets are in better form than the Bulls, making your future wagers involving those teams more likely to be successful, even though the final scores of the two games were exactly the same.



4) Take advantage of value.

Linesmakers have a pretty good idea of which way the money is going to flow once they hang their opening numbers. And amateur bettors are a big part of this, falling in love with ‘public’ teams, betting them over and over again. In college sports, these ‘public’ teams are usually in the Top 25, from a major conference – well known schools. In the pro sports, they are the hottest teams, teams at the top of their respective divisions or conferences. The professional bettor will recognize this public bias, notice that the lines are inflated for many of the best teams in the country, and either bet against many of the good teams or pass on their games entirely. Instead, the pro’s concentrate much more on backing the ‘good but not great’ type of squads, teams that have fallen underneath the public’s collective radar, as well as fading some of the mediocre type squads that are in poor current form. The pros bet against Top 25 clubs far more often than they back ‘em – that’s where the value is, catching six points with an underdog that should only be getting four. It’s equally important to recognize when the linesmakers have priced you out of a play. Kentucky and Arizona have been red hot in college basketball for the last couple of months, and they are the top two teams in the whole country right now. While few bettors of any ilk like to step in front of juggernauts like these, they also recognize that the time to back these two schools has come and gone – there’s no value on their respective sides. Both clubs had great records against the spread at one point this season, but neither is above .500 vs. the number here in February.



5) Be smart when betting your streaks.

It’s one of the most common mistakes that amateurs make, and it’s quite possibly the most costly. They press their losses, raising the stakes to get back to even off a losing week/streak. Pro bettors know that there will be times when you lose more than you win. Hopefully, those times are few and far between, but inevitably, they will happen to everybody. Rather than raising the stakes during those times when you are having a bad run, the pro lowers his stakes, conserving bankroll while waiting for things to turn around. There’s no ‘double or nothing’ attitude on Monday Night Football games for the pro. Conversely, the pro knows that winning streaks are the time to press your bets, not the time to pull back with a conservative approach to their recent profit. When a ‘capper is in good form and good rhythm, with his read on the games in solid form and the bounces generally falling in his direction, he’s not afraid to raise his stakes a bit, making larger plays when the percentages are in his favor (positive expectation wagers) It sounds so basic – don’t chase losses, ride your winning streaks, but few amateur bettors are able to maintain an even keel during periods of higher rates than the norm of both successes and of failures

[This message was edited by The General on 03-29-03 at 02:21 PM.]

Here is a professional's math formula for determining the maximum that you can risk on one game:

A= % of wins (expressed as a decimal) --> This is your EXPECTED overall win rate.

B = Average profit per game won

C = Average loss per game lost

D = Size of your bankroll today

E = Percentage of bankroll to risk on 1 game

For example, making a modest presumption that you can win 55% to 60% of the time, A = 0.55

Assuming you make $10 profit for every $11 wagered when you win, B = $10

Again, assuming you lose the amount wagered ($11) whenever your team loses, C = $11

Say your bankroll is $500. D = $500

Here is the math:

E = A - [(1-A)/(B/C)] <----- This is the formula

1-A = (1 - 0.55) = 0.45
B/C = ($10/$11) = 0.91

E = 0.55 - (0.45 / 0.91)
E= 0.55 - 0.4945, or 0.05, or 5%

If D = $500, the amount to risk = 5% x $500 = $25


Just remember, if you can win 55% of the time, you will make money over the long run. However, a string of 6 or 7 losses from time to time is inevitable. But so are streaks of 6 or 7 winners in a row.

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He post all his picks on Twitter (Type in Randizzle14) watch for fakes (The real Dizzle has over 1,800 followers)
 

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Just having an average size proportional to my bankroll works for me.

Adjust it a bit as your bankroll fluctuates, that's what I do.
 

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Always buy points in your favor. Juice is free when you win. A Loss by a half-point or so, is far worse than 9 losses by not buying it.
 

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I wanna know if there's any system out there that anyone uses to manage their bankroll?

For example, if I start with a 1K bankroll...
for the remainder of the NBA season, should there be a maximum amount I should be wagering or a maximum amount of games to be played per day?

Trying to find the most effecient way to play without depleting my bank roll in 1 week. I'd like to know if anyone has any stratgies or disiplines they could share.

If you start with 1k, still use conservative money management. Most people who deposit small bankroll like 1k, don't have the patience to bet under 3% per game. But if you are a good handicapper and stick bets under 3% you can grow rapidly using the compounding methods. I highly recommend reading the money management article at bettingresource.com that shows how this type of compounding can double the bankroll at about every 3 months. So after 12 months (1 year) your 1k can be sitting at 16k while never betting more than 3%
 

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[QUOTE = couch_potatoes; 1184816] Хорошая точка ATX:

«Тот, кто имеет лучшие ФАКТОРЫ ОТВЕТСТВЕННОСТИ, нанимается LVSC, чистые цифры доступны НИКОМУ. 11/10 - это то, что бьет публику - в дополнение к книгам, имеющим почти неограниченный банкролл (для сравнения) и тот факт, что публика не знает, каким должен быть НОМЕР ".

Действительно, человеческий фактор сильно отличает командные виды спорта от случайной игры в кости. Как настроены спреды, вы должны давать больше очков популярным фаворитам, потому что есть преданные фанаты, желающие добавить $ в свою команду по эмоциональным причинам.

Вы должны выяснить, каким должен быть справедливый спред, и воспользоваться преимуществом, когда он отклонен на несколько пунктов. По общему признанию, это легче сказать, чем сделать, но если бы это был простой способ заработать $, автострада была бы полна лимузинов с шофером.


Thank you for an interesting thought!
 

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I wanna know if there's any system out there that anyone uses to manage their bankroll?

For example, if I start with a 1K bankroll...
for the remainder of the NBA season, should there be a maximum amount I should be wagering or a maximum amount of games to be played per day?

Trying to find the most effecient way to play without depleting my bank roll in 1 week. I'd like to know if anyone has any stratgies or disiplines they could share.

Bet the same amount on each game. This is a long term venture.

Stay away from parlays. Occasional 2 team money line parlay is ok but once you start adding 3 and more teams, just a losing venture.

Don't chase. If you lose, there are more games tomorrow.

Don't bet if there is nothing on the board that you like. Let the daily card/schedule of games dictate the play or plays. This is about being disciplined and have a long term vision. Take it 30 days at a time, 2 weeks at a time, whatever fits your needs/situation

Put in the work. It is a science. Not an exact science but the numbers matter.

Good luck.
 

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While reading many of the opinions they can all be helpful in some way. Im going to offer insight to football only in this read. No other sport can be compared to football when it compares to the point spread and how its made.

Handicapping is truly an art from past results and public betting history. Its rarely relevant to the current matchup - except and until - there is enough data to change the perceived point spread.
While you may be thinking that my summation is crazy, its not when you look at what makes up the spread every time. If Im a book and Im going to take bets, I better know what the average gambler doesn't know before I post a line on any game. Only I, as the man who takes the bets have the power to make that line and only I can change it, when I have no advantage at winning the bet. On these games Im trying to get even action in dollars so I can make the 10 percent profit.

If I have, by prior betting history, enough proven and accurate factors of what the public will do long before I make and post a spread, and I have current data that tells me what the real difference is between the 2 teams playing today, then I know where I can post the number and make money off the losers. What this means, is that in some situations, I can afford to take lopsided bets on any given game, if I know by history, Im going to get one-sided by the majority of bettors and I know I can put up a number with them believing its fair. When in reality, I have better information than the public and I have a very strong chance to win much more money on the losers than the few who will actually make money on the winner.

While no one can predict a "balanced betting amount" of the unknown between two teams, in order to make money - I - as the one taking bets, must have an advantage that no one else has to be sure I dont go out of business on day one.

If I as the bookmaker, post a line on the unknown and I get a million dollars bet on one side, I have no power any longer to move the line enough to force bettors to the other side in hopes of getting the other million dollars to balance the action to save myself.
ONLY by prior betting habits and betting history, along with current public perception, can I make the line to protect myself or increase my chances to make more money on the losers than the winners.
Remember its Vegas' line. You have to decide what side you are betting on. But you have no way to prove its fair, since it their line, not yours that your betting against.

If you have a way of finding the line is off, and can by any system you may have, and actually see an advantage other than just a hunch, then and only then - can you find and select a game where that advantage exists. In my experiences of several decades of wagering I look for what I consider an advantage against the line. There aren't many, but they are there. In 60 games in any given week, there may be as many as 7 to 13 games on average that may have this advantage. Keep in mind, these games do not all win. Losses are mainly compiled from mistakes and turnovers that cause scores to go against your side. But in the long run you, will come out a winner.

Many services that post plays use trends and the current success of a team as their choice to choose a side. I don;t, because that means little to me unless I find that advantage from betting history against current data, actually applies to the game in question. Trends are compiled by teams that have different players each year and its impossible to establish any potential outcome unless the teams in question are precisely what is needed to continue the trend. In that case - it is really the current potential of the teams that haven't changed much to defeat that trend. But 90 percent of trends all lose too often, to be trusted over the long run.
If trends truly were effective, Vegas would go out of business quickly because everyone would know about them. That is also what kills bettors, not Vegas.
Back to handicapping, it takes some ability to find that advantage against the point spread, or you're just guessing too often to end up losing and wondering why each and every year..
 

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