http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=iraq
The always ready to start war crowd was wrong again.
The always ready to start war crowd was wrong again.
Who the fvck do you think started the war you moron? These muslim scum bags started this war and I don't give a shit of they live in Iraq, Afghanastan, Syria or anywhere else. They drew first blood on 9/11 and started this testing period. That piece of shit muslim "the sniper" continued it here in America. The sand scum started this war.
This is a religious war no matter how you try to spin it. Muslims vs. Christians. We know the ending - do you?
This is a religious war no matter how you try to spin it. Muslims vs. Christians. We know the ending - do you?
ignorance is a bliss, right joint pleasure? You dumb fvck, you dont even expect evidence to be presented to you, even forged ones, before you let loose your blind hate. But, then again bin laden,(of the bin laden family CO-OWNER OF SEVERAL OF COMPANIES INCLUDING LE FIGARO NEWSPAPER AND SEVERAL OIL CO'S WITH GUESS WHO, THE BUSH FVCKING FAMILY, AND LIVING A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT I GUESS YOU NEVER READ ANYTHING BEYOND CNN OR USA TODAY), AND Sadam Husein, both ex cia hired guns, are still alive.
I pity you, but i also despise retard sheep like yourself with their spineless, ignorant behaviour leave this world to be putty in the hands of dictators.
although an atheist per se, or at best an agnostic, i sure hope the good lord fvcks them degenerate sadists up for eternity for inflicting evil pain on others, TO ADVANCE THEIR SORRY ASS MATERIALIST EGOTISTIC INTERESTS, shame on them, shame on the human race for allowing such continued brutality under such skin thin pretexts in a so called advanced and democratic age, it's sad and repulsive.
I pity you, but i also despise retard sheep like yourself with their spineless, ignorant behaviour leave this world to be putty in the hands of dictators.
although an atheist per se, or at best an agnostic, i sure hope the good lord fvcks them degenerate sadists up for eternity for inflicting evil pain on others, TO ADVANCE THEIR SORRY ASS MATERIALIST EGOTISTIC INTERESTS, shame on them, shame on the human race for allowing such continued brutality under such skin thin pretexts in a so called advanced and democratic age, it's sad and repulsive.
Joint,
Great point. I think we would kill all Christians because Tim McVeigh was a Christian terrorist. You can go first, since most neo-con neo-Nazi war ******s are Christian.
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Ah the beauty. Not only did we rid the world of a potential terrorist - we gave the NRA a big shout out.
Isn't genocide wonderful?
Great point. I think we would kill all Christians because Tim McVeigh was a Christian terrorist. You can go first, since most neo-con neo-Nazi war ******s are Christian.
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Ah the beauty. Not only did we rid the world of a potential terrorist - we gave the NRA a big shout out.
Isn't genocide wonderful?
Funny how the first World Trade Bombing didn't occur until after the FIRST Gulf War. Perhaps we should just pull out of Iraq and let them decide the fate of their own country. Plus pull out of Saudi Arabia. Something tells me terrorist acts against us might dwindle just a tad. That 87 billion needs to be invested in our own country or get free health care for everyone. Also have our Army guarding our STILL pourous open borders.
Joint Pleasure,
You sound just like Osama Bin Laden. He said it was OK to kill 3000 Americans on 9/11 because the U.S had its troops in the Middle East. Now you are saying its OK for us to kill 4300 non combatants because a few people flew planes into the WTC on 9/11. The 2 of you should get together, your logic is identical.
Besides, Jointpleasure. I never said The U.S. was totally at blame, or for that matter to blame at all. I simply stated the numbers of dead and said that the always ready to start a war crowd were wrong. And they were. I heard comical sh*t like "we wont kill more than 50 non combatants tops". That was a ludicrous statement to make.
[This message was edited by DannyMay on October 29, 2003 at 07:53 PM.]
You sound just like Osama Bin Laden. He said it was OK to kill 3000 Americans on 9/11 because the U.S had its troops in the Middle East. Now you are saying its OK for us to kill 4300 non combatants because a few people flew planes into the WTC on 9/11. The 2 of you should get together, your logic is identical.
Besides, Jointpleasure. I never said The U.S. was totally at blame, or for that matter to blame at all. I simply stated the numbers of dead and said that the always ready to start a war crowd were wrong. And they were. I heard comical sh*t like "we wont kill more than 50 non combatants tops". That was a ludicrous statement to make.
[This message was edited by DannyMay on October 29, 2003 at 07:53 PM.]
I just clicked on the original link to the story and it has been changed to the Red Cross cutting staff story. Here is the link on a different site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3223523.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3223523.stm
Iraqi war deaths 'total 13,000'
US air raids targeted military and government facilities
About 13,000 Iraqis, including as many as 4,300 civilians, were killed during the major combat phase of the Iraq war, according to a US research group.
It said the estimates were based on US combat data, battlefield press reports, and Iraqi hospital surveys.
Despite the advent of precision weapons, more civilians died in the latest conflict than in the 1991 war, the group suggests.
The US military has published no details on Iraqi deaths in either war.
The study by the Project on Defense Alternatives (PDA) covers the period from 19 March to the end of April.
It provides ranges of casualty levels, rather than specific estimates.
Although [the conflict] was supposed to exemplify the new warfare, it provides no unambiguous support for the hypothesis regarding civilian casualties
Project on Defense Alternatives
It says that as few as 11,000 Iraqis may have been killed in the war, or as many as 15,000 - the 13,000 being the mid-point between the two figures.
According to the PDA, approximately 30% of the victims were "non-combatants" - defined as civilians who did not take up arms.
These are "working" figures, which could change as new information becomes available, the group makes clear.
Paradox
The study estimates the Iraqi dead during the 1991 Gulf War at some 3,500 civilians and between 20,000 and 26,000 soldiers.
The report says the Iraqi War fatalities point to the "paradox of the New Warfare".
Many Iraqi civilians were caught in the bombing
"One premise of the 'new warfare' hypothesis is that precision technologies and new warfighting techniques now allow the United States to wage war while incurring dramatically fewer casualties - especially civilian casualties.
"Although Operation Iraqi Freedom was supposed to exemplify the new warfare, it provides no unambiguous support for the hypothesis regarding civilian casualties," the author writes.
However, the report adds, "the power and promise of the new warfare is evident in having achieved so much more in the 2003 war than in the 1991 war, while incurring a comparable or lower cost in lives".
The PDA is a think tank based in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
US air raids targeted military and government facilities
About 13,000 Iraqis, including as many as 4,300 civilians, were killed during the major combat phase of the Iraq war, according to a US research group.
It said the estimates were based on US combat data, battlefield press reports, and Iraqi hospital surveys.
Despite the advent of precision weapons, more civilians died in the latest conflict than in the 1991 war, the group suggests.
The US military has published no details on Iraqi deaths in either war.
The study by the Project on Defense Alternatives (PDA) covers the period from 19 March to the end of April.
It provides ranges of casualty levels, rather than specific estimates.
Although [the conflict] was supposed to exemplify the new warfare, it provides no unambiguous support for the hypothesis regarding civilian casualties
Project on Defense Alternatives
It says that as few as 11,000 Iraqis may have been killed in the war, or as many as 15,000 - the 13,000 being the mid-point between the two figures.
According to the PDA, approximately 30% of the victims were "non-combatants" - defined as civilians who did not take up arms.
These are "working" figures, which could change as new information becomes available, the group makes clear.
Paradox
The study estimates the Iraqi dead during the 1991 Gulf War at some 3,500 civilians and between 20,000 and 26,000 soldiers.
The report says the Iraqi War fatalities point to the "paradox of the New Warfare".
Many Iraqi civilians were caught in the bombing
"One premise of the 'new warfare' hypothesis is that precision technologies and new warfighting techniques now allow the United States to wage war while incurring dramatically fewer casualties - especially civilian casualties.
"Although Operation Iraqi Freedom was supposed to exemplify the new warfare, it provides no unambiguous support for the hypothesis regarding civilian casualties," the author writes.
However, the report adds, "the power and promise of the new warfare is evident in having achieved so much more in the 2003 war than in the 1991 war, while incurring a comparable or lower cost in lives".
The PDA is a think tank based in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Is that all????? According to most left wing publications 100's of thousnds were to be the norm...Its also a country of 26 million....Where were you lefties when Saddam gased 15000 Kurds??Wheres your humanity then??
Here is stat that has NO slant...Saddam is responsible for more Muslim deaths than anyone else in history!!!
Hey you jerks don't drive your cars or heat your houses because the Bushes are connected to oil...fxckin retards.
(The PDA is a think tank based in Cambridge, Massachusetts)....Thats all I need to know.The people in Mass. think these people are wacky and the people in Mass are left of californians.
Not all Muslims are terrorist but so far all the terroist are Muslims.
And for you dumb ass Americans and unappriciative fxckin foreigners..Here is a stat you can stick up your cave like faggot asses....Since Americas aggressive stance on terrorism...Terroist acts around the WORLD have occured at the lowest rate since they started recording them.
Blame the Muslims for Muslim deaths!!
Here is stat that has NO slant...Saddam is responsible for more Muslim deaths than anyone else in history!!!
Hey you jerks don't drive your cars or heat your houses because the Bushes are connected to oil...fxckin retards.
(The PDA is a think tank based in Cambridge, Massachusetts)....Thats all I need to know.The people in Mass. think these people are wacky and the people in Mass are left of californians.
Not all Muslims are terrorist but so far all the terroist are Muslims.
And for you dumb ass Americans and unappriciative fxckin foreigners..Here is a stat you can stick up your cave like faggot asses....Since Americas aggressive stance on terrorism...Terroist acts around the WORLD have occured at the lowest rate since they started recording them.
Blame the Muslims for Muslim deaths!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Is that all?????
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You are saying it is OK that we killed 4,300 innocent Iraqis ( Before the end of April) because it is a country of 26 million ???????
So is it OK that 2800 Americans were killed on 9/11 ???
Who should care ??? - after all this is a country of 300,000,000 +
Damn, you are an Idiot.
Is that all?????
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You are saying it is OK that we killed 4,300 innocent Iraqis ( Before the end of April) because it is a country of 26 million ???????
So is it OK that 2800 Americans were killed on 9/11 ???
Who should care ??? - after all this is a country of 300,000,000 +
Damn, you are an Idiot.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Where were you lefties when Saddam gased 15000 Kurds??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The real question is , wher were you "righties". You like to ignore the fact that OUR govt was SUPPORTING Saddam at that time - even supplying him with those weapons. Of course, you didnt have a bad word to say about Saddam back then - you hadnt yet been told to hate him.
Where were you lefties when Saddam gased 15000 Kurds??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The real question is , wher were you "righties". You like to ignore the fact that OUR govt was SUPPORTING Saddam at that time - even supplying him with those weapons. Of course, you didnt have a bad word to say about Saddam back then - you hadnt yet been told to hate him.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
According to most left wing publications 100's of thousnds were to be the norm...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is an out and out LIE. You CANNOT and WILL NOT post a link where it was said that 100's of thousands of innocents would be killed in this war. I will be waiting for the link - any link. You WILL NOT post one. Simple as that. It is a LIE.
Anyone who would say " Is that all ? " is no better than any Al Queda terrorist, you dumbass idiot.
According to most left wing publications 100's of thousnds were to be the norm...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is an out and out LIE. You CANNOT and WILL NOT post a link where it was said that 100's of thousands of innocents would be killed in this war. I will be waiting for the link - any link. You WILL NOT post one. Simple as that. It is a LIE.
Anyone who would say " Is that all ? " is no better than any Al Queda terrorist, you dumbass idiot.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Since Americas aggressive stance on terrorism...Terroist acts around the WORLD have occured at the lowest rate since they started recording them.
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If you believe that you are that dumbest idiot on this board.
Since Americas aggressive stance on terrorism...Terroist acts around the WORLD have occured at the lowest rate since they started recording them.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you believe that you are that dumbest idiot on this board.
Idon't give a fxck about how many Iraqs got killed..Blame it on the Muslims...When you indicrimantaley kill 3000 innocent people ..shit happens.Including wars.
There were many leftist pundits that had a much larger body count predicted.
Since I stated the facts about terrorist attacks around the world is a fact...That make you the idiot...
Tim Mcveigh is an exception, but there is some speculation that he was tied to an Iraqy muslim terroist group
Until the nation of Islam leaders takes a bigger step in getting rid of muslim extremist, they are in fact an accessory to murder.
There were many leftist pundits that had a much larger body count predicted.
Since I stated the facts about terrorist attacks around the world is a fact...That make you the idiot...
Tim Mcveigh is an exception, but there is some speculation that he was tied to an Iraqy muslim terroist group
Until the nation of Islam leaders takes a bigger step in getting rid of muslim extremist, they are in fact an accessory to murder.
Danny,
According to Bushie every attack in Iraq is a terrorist attack. I happen to call it self defense, but it's all apples and (genocidal lunactic) oranges.
I don't remember being attacked by terrorist on a daily basis before Bush wagered his illegal war.
Funny how these monkeys spew random Bs and try to pawn it off as truth.
According to Bushie every attack in Iraq is a terrorist attack. I happen to call it self defense, but it's all apples and (genocidal lunactic) oranges.
I don't remember being attacked by terrorist on a daily basis before Bush wagered his illegal war.
Funny how these monkeys spew random Bs and try to pawn it off as truth.
Lander,
I agree 100%. Bush says they are all terrorist attacks in Iraq. To say there are fewer terrorist attacks now, would be to say Bush is lying. No way Bush would lie. LMAO.
Patriot,
You said you dont care how many Iraqis got killed. You said that, I didnt. That just makes it clear that you are not 1 bit better than Al Queda extremists. Isnt that exactly what Bin Laden said about 9/11. He didnt care how many Americans were killed ? YOu are no better than Bin Laden saying you dont care how many Iraqia were killed.
Again, I will be waiting for you to post just 1 of the "most left wing publications said 100's of thousands were to be the norm". I will be waiting to see just 1.
I agree 100%. Bush says they are all terrorist attacks in Iraq. To say there are fewer terrorist attacks now, would be to say Bush is lying. No way Bush would lie. LMAO.
Patriot,
You said you dont care how many Iraqis got killed. You said that, I didnt. That just makes it clear that you are not 1 bit better than Al Queda extremists. Isnt that exactly what Bin Laden said about 9/11. He didnt care how many Americans were killed ? YOu are no better than Bin Laden saying you dont care how many Iraqia were killed.
Again, I will be waiting for you to post just 1 of the "most left wing publications said 100's of thousands were to be the norm". I will be waiting to see just 1.
