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Tenn has a cake walk to the #1 seed.
Some tough games against Saints, Pats and Steelers. Every other game looks like a W.
They still play Houston twice lol.

If they get a healthy (and fresh) Henry back for the playoffs then I like their chances as the AFC champion.
 

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Tenn has a cake walk to the #1 seed.
Some tough games against Saints, Pats and Steelers. Every other game looks like a W.
They still play Houston twice lol.

If they get a healthy (and fresh) Henry back for the playoffs then I like their chances as the AFC champion.
agree Pats... Tenn has been battletested . I have them ahead of these teams in this order

Buffalo
LAC
Cleveland
Baltimore
KC
Pitt
NE
 

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Ultimately look at QB and pass rush
Also look at how a team is playing in the playoffs
TB is a perfect example
Last year their defense wasn't impressive until the playoffs(especially starting 2nd game)
They got after the Qb and defense was really good
Take what you know and watch teams playing in the playoffs and how they may have evolved and how bad they want it
Colts back when they won their SB had a poordefense that year. They played good in the playoffs though
But as far as picking teams as of now you look at pass rush and QB
Even more so once the playoffs start
 

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Also look at how a team is playing in the playoffs
TB is a perfect example
Last year their defense wasn't impressive until the playoffs(especially starting 2nd game)
They got after the Qb and defense was really good
Take what you know and watch teams playing in the playoffs and how they may have evolved and how bad they want it
Colts back when they won their SB had a poordefense that year. They played good in the playoffs though
But as far as picking teams as of now you look at pass rush and QB
Even more so once the playoffs start

A bit O/T but colts also ran pure with the Patriots upsetting the chargers in San Diego, Marlon McRees fumble being the big play in that 1.

As well as their defense played, it would’ve been a tall task to keep that up against the Chargers running game that year. No one thinks of playing the Patriots as good fortune so kinda forgotten over time.
 

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Didn't read thru this but Titans wins against KC and Buf and being in the weakest division in football make them appear better than they are. Henry loss is whatever. Not a positive but overall not the most determintal. Come playoffs I don't see them making a run but have been wrong before. I finally jumped off the Chiefs after the GMen game. There was a much more compelling argument earlier in the year that they were a few TOs away from being a dominate team once again. Last 4 weeks that off is playing bad. Yea they'll right ship eventually but think 4 game is enough to say something this year ain't clicking. Lamar is playing at at an mvp level but that Bal def isnt what it has been in the past. Maybe they get it turned around because this is the best off I can remember them having. Overall parity makes for a more exciting playoff race.

How is his loss whatever? He’s 1 of the best offensive skill position players in the league.

Having the best running game has been hugely instrumental in Tannehill resurrection. Most teams just not equipped to defend that type of running game now.

id like their chances to pivot to a more pass centric offense a lot more if Julio wasn’t hurt every 3rd week.
 

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Also look at how a team is playing in the playoffs


A bit O/T but colts also ran pure with the Patriots upsetting the chargers in San Diego, Marlon McRees fumble being the big play in that 1.

As well as their defense played, it would’ve been a tall task to keep that up against the Chargers running game that year. No one thinks of playing the Patriots as good fortune so kinda forgotten over time.
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agree Pats... Tenn has been battletested . I have them ahead of these teams in this order

Buffalo
LAC
Cleveland
Baltimore
KC
Pitt
NE

I will attempt this but with tiers, this takes into account upside/sustainability etc…..I’ll try not to include schedule too much even tho that’s going to play a big role

Bills

Ravens


Chiefs
Browns
Titans
Patriots

Colts
Chargers (I don’t put too much into special teams these days but this is a legitimate flaw with this team, as well as lack of HF)
Raiders
Broncos
Bengals
Steelers
 
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I will attempt this but with tiers, this takes into account upside/sustainability etc…..I’ll try not to include schedule too much even tho that’s going to play a big role

Bills

Ravens

This guy gets it. A top 2 sharpest poster in the thread.
 

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How is his loss whatever? He’s 1 of the best offensive skill position players in the league.

Having the best running game has been hugely instrumental in Tannehill resurrection. Most teams just not equipped to defend that type of running game now.

id like their chances to pivot to a more pass centric offense a lot more if Julio wasn’t hurt every 3rd week.
Well we tend disagree on the RB position in general. This season a lot of his production is volume based. He leads the league with 219 rush att (next most is 150) and 937 rush yards. Yards and attempts are volume based stats and more indicative of the type of offense they run. This season he's 28th in success rate and 17th in dvoa along rb. Sunday night the rushing success and epa for the Titans wasn't much different without him. Clearly I'm not saying his loss has no relation to the outcome of the rest of the season but I don't see it as being as huge an impact as losing Tannehill or AJ Brown.
 

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Tenn has a cake walk to the #1 seed.

On paper, absolutely. Lets look at remaining SOS compared to Buffalo.

Buffalo's combined future opponents are 37-39. Slightly below average.

Titans combined future opponents are 24-44. That's putrid.

The Bills schedule isn't all that hard. But the Titans is a joke. In an easy way.

The Titans hold the 1st tie breaker over the Bills due to head to head win as well. Yet Buffalo is still a considerable favorite to win the AFC over Tennessee. Hmmmmm... What can we decipher from this?
 

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I don’t think we disagree on the RB position in general (although I do think the pendulum has swung so far towards passing that there is value in zigging while others zag, also think in the right spot some of these RBs can matter more in January weather)

You can’t use pure efficiency stats with Henry of course with that type of volume some efficiency is going to wane. He also had bad games the last 2 skewing the numbers.

PFF #1 RB and the Titans rushing offense had the value of a top 5-10 passing offense last year.

Then there is just his gravitational pull in general, a game like vs KC the chiefs have to commit bodies to him and Tannehill is able to shred. He’s 1 of 1 at what he’s been able to do.

Agree he isn’t as valuable as those 2 guys but that’s because QB positional value being what it is and because healthy AJB should be in best WR in NFL conversation

Also any WAR/AV approximating value metric is going to have him as worth an elite player that is non-QB, I.e Titans line moving a pt after the injury was announced
 
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Also, how can you say EPA/rushing success wasn’t different without him? They averaged 3.5 yards per play. You can’t just isolate their running game numbers without factoring in their lack of overall success. Gravity is real and football is a game of synergy.
 

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Bills and Ravens still have a ton of upside, but one needs to fix their Offense and the other their d
On paper, absolutely. Lets look at remaining SOS compared to Buffalo.

Buffalo's combined future opponents are 37-39. Slightly below average.

Titans combined future opponents are 24-44. That's putrid.

The Bills schedule isn't all that hard. But the Titans is a joke. In an easy way.

The Titans hold the 1st tie breaker over the Bills due to head to head win as well. Yet Buffalo is still a considerable favorite to win the AFC over Tennessee. Hmmmmm... What can we decipher from this?
That Vegas still likes Buffalo more than Tennessee. And I really don’t disagree with it, every team is capable of throwing up a stinker like Buffalo just did. Shit, Tennessee lost to the Jets. But Buffalo’s offense needs to run the ball, I’m talking about their backs not just Allen. When they abandon the run like they did against Jacksonville they’re very beatable.

This thread title is perfect, I wouldn’t be surprised to see 6 different teams win the AFC. But home field still means a lot to me. And Tennessee needs to get Henry back healthy that’s a big if.
 

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Bills should abandon the silly 'running from shotgun' thing.

It doesnt work. When Allen was under center, they could run the ball, but when the rb is doing the lambada 3 yards from the line of scrimmage, the best he can hope for is to fall forward for gain of a yard.
 

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Teams will catch up to Tennessee. They will miss Henry dearly, though it may not end up mattering because of the weak schedule — as far as 1-seed goes
 

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Ravens probably have the best team if they can adjust some things defensively

Have a feeling Chiefs still pull it out though
 

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Teams will catch up to Tennessee. They will miss Henry dearly, though it may not end up mattering because of the weak schedule — as far as 1-seed goes
Tennessee didnt even play well on offense...

It felt Ten was in control and played well but stats paint a different picture.

Certainly on offense they werent anything special

Just my recollection but teams that outperformed their stats to that degree, are bad bets the following weak, especially as favorites
 

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That Saints vs Titans game spread is a complete mindfuck.
 

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Tennessee didnt even play well on offense...

It felt Ten was in control and played well but stats paint a different picture.

Certainly on offense they werent anything special

Just my recollection but teams that outperformed their stats to that degree, are bad bets the following weak, especially as favorites
What's odd is Tennessee seems to have a lot of questions on defense, in general. Last night was different. They were all over Stafford, especially in the first half yesterday.

I think a lot of what we saw last night was just an absolute dud from the Rams. Titans were in control more because of Rams' offensive deficiencies. Rams were also committing penalties like it was their day job. Just an awful game from them.

Titans are like a nice top 8-10 team in the league with a healthy Henry if you really break down their roster. I think they ran into some solid teams these past few weeks who all didn't seem to play their best on game day. That's not to take anything away from Tennessee; I just think it's what happened....
 

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Think it ends up being something like this.....

Ravens
Chiefs
Titans
Bills
Browns
Patriots
Chargers
Bengals
Steelers
Colts
Raiders
Broncos
Dolphins
Jets
Jags
Texans


A lot of parity
 

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