Will Rodgers leave GB?

[Ladeda]

I don't thing going for the 3 is all that bad.

If he goes for it on 4th and goal.

-maybe a 35% chance of getting the TD

then:

-maybe 50-60% chance of converting the 2pt conversion

then:

Brady gets the ball back with around 2:00 with all there timeouts, just needing a FG! I think Brady gets it done at least 75% of the time.

So if they go for the TD on 4th down they have what , a 10% chance at winning max giving all of the above factors.



The best move is probably kicking the FG then letting TB score a TD as fast as possible and getting the ball back with around 2:00 minutes and down 5. Letting TB run the kick back would have been the ideal move. Rodgers down 5 with 2 minutes left is probably at least 30% shot, way more then the first scenario.


This could also explain why the TB return man slid down with 2:02 left on the clock saving GB a timeout. It seemed inexplicable, but he might have been instructed to just go down by coaches thinking BG might let them return the kick for a TD.

 

[PatsFan1283]

That would make it a 12pt gm if GB let TB score.

In terms of strict win probability it wasn't that bad, just because they were only about 10% to win at that point anyway. But it was still pretty bad.


As far as LaFleur goes, he ain't going anywhere. He did revive Rodgers career the last few years, which people tend to forget since only 1 top QB in the NFL is talked about as having benefited from coaching.

 

[Ladeda]

That would make it a 12pt gm if GB let TB score.

In terms of strict win probability it wasn't that bad, just because they were only about 10% to win at that point anyway. But it was still pretty bad.


As far as LaFleur goes, he ain't going anywhere. He did revive Rodgers career the last few years, which people tend to forget since only 1 top QB in the NFL is talked about as having benefited from coaching.

Yup, my example was all f'ed up. Sorry

 

[Avocado33]

I don't thing going for the 3 is all that bad.

If he goes for it on 4th and goal.

-maybe a 35% chance of getting the TD

then:

-maybe 50-60% chance of converting the 2pt conversion

then:

Brady gets the ball back with around 2:00 with all there timeouts, just needing a FG! I think Brady gets it done at least 75% of the time.

So if they go for the TD on 4th down they have what , a 10% chance at winning max giving all of the above factors.



The best move is probably kicking the FG then letting TB score a TD as fast as possible and getting the ball back with around 2:00 minutes and down 5. Letting TB run the kick back would have been the ideal move. Rodgers down 5 with 2 minutes left is probably at least 30% shot, way more then the first scenario.


This could also explain why the TB return man slid down with 2:02 left on the clock saving GB a timeout. It seemed inexplicable, but he might have been instructed to just go down by coaches thinking BG might let them return the kick for a TD.

Assuming the letting TB score is a mistype, but regardless....


There's nothing that could justify going for 3 there.

Sorry, there just isn't. They are lucky the TB guy didn't try to extend the kickoff play

It's all time awful coaching decision. No debate

If you are afraid of giving tying it up and giving Brady the ball back with too much time, then why the hell would you not be afraid of giving Brady the ball back with a 5-point lead???? Such a dumb reason to kick the FG

 

[Haystacks]

Yup, my example was all f'ed up. Sorry

maybe try using a little football sense and a little common sense.....instead of those dopey millennial analytics percentages
down 8 with a little more than 2 to play, you NEED A TD AND 2 pointer. Field goal does shit for you. You have to stop them or it doesn’t matter. If they stop you on 4 Th down, you have to stop them or it doesn’t matter. See the common theme....you have to stop them unless you tie them. It’s ludicrous to kick .

 

[arniesarmy]

The talk is LaFleur called a play with a back in the backfield on third down. Rodgers, who has the right, changed it to an empty backfield, figuring they had four downs to get it. That is why he didn't run for it on third down. He thought he would have another down. Did LaFleur get pissed that Rodgers changed the original call and then failed for the third straight down to get it in the end zone? Did he say, fuck you, we'll kick it and let our defense get the ball back? No chance, but should have happened but for a ticky-tack, especially in this game, interference call. I love him on the Pack, but Rodgers is a drama queen who doesn't come through in the playoffs. They were great in the red zone all season and Sunday, he didn't do it. With him next year, they still have a shot. But man, they were set up to go this year and he couldn't get the ball in the end zone.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Rodgers scores on the third down if he takes off for the end zone....

 

[Willie99]

Rodgers scores on the third down if he takes off for the end zone....

This, plus I would have won my + 600 prop bet that QB's on all four teams combined would rush for 100 yards or more. Allen almost pulled it off all by himself

Rogers didn't run one time, which is unlike him.

 

[Avocado33]

Rodgers scores on the third down if he takes off for the end zone....

Making the right decision in the biggest moments not really his thing though.

 

[PoundFoolish]

He just wants to whine to deflect attention from his third championship game loss in a row. Don't forget the two earlier three-and-outs in the fourth quarter. Always looking for someone to blame or something that makes him look like a victim.

:aktion033

 

[Dr.Love]

Rodgers scores on the third down if he takes off for the end zone....

Maybe. It looked like a clear path. But we all know how fast NFL backfields can close on you. Looked like he had about 8 yards to the goal line from where he ended up throwing the football. He would have had to put his head down dive in as he was gonna get lit up. Do what you gotta do. But that wasn't a stone cold lock he scores if he runs.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I would say there needed to be at least 7 mins on the clock for a FG to be justified .

And if they were down 9 instead of 8 you could justify a kick in that spot .


LaFleur put the bullseye on his back with that move .

If they go for it and don’t get it then the narrative would have changed from what a fucking dumb call to Aaron Rodgers failed in the clutch .

 

[PatsFan1283]

Yeah, I dunno if he would've scored. Guys close fast in the NFL. All depends how fast they read and react. He is 37, maybe a younger version of himself scores, but even if he doesn't score then he could have a better situation on 4th down as well. Guess we will never know....

 

[5teamparlay]

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/will-rodgers-play-the-covid-opt-out-card-700

The NFL and the NFLPA reached a side agreement on Covid opt-out rules for 2021 last Tuesday. Players have until Friday, July 2, to opt out for 2021. It appears that Aaron Rodgers can opt out if he desires, according to Mike Florio. So, what would be the pros and cons for the team and for Rodgers if he opted out?
Rodgers would not be subject to any fines. He could keep the $6.8 million roster bonus (for now). He would not be subject to forfeiture: that is, he would not have to repay his signing bonus if he plays somewhere in 2022. He would not have to play for the Packers in 2021, and probably can expect to be traded in 2022, though that might depend on circumstance. The only pain he inflicts on the front office (and there is no reason to believe that he wants his teammates to do poorly) depends on how the Packers fare in terms of wins and playoff success in 2021 without him. Time will not stand still, so Rodgers would be a full year older when he returns to play (somewhere) in 2022. That might affect his career statistics and goals; after all, he would have one year less to accomplish any goals and he has a finite number of seasons left. If he opts out, he cannot play in 2021: he cannot change his mind and return in 2021.
The Packers would save $29.9 million on the salary cap in 2021 and $9.45 million more in 2022. His $37.202 million salary cap number for 2021 would be reduced by the $500,000 workout bonus he has already lost to $36.7M while his roster bonus would still count against the cap, for a net of $29.902 million in savings. Since the contract tolls, his 2022 cap number would no longer be $39.852 million. Instead, it would be his 2021 cap number of $37.2 million ($2.65M less), further decreased by the $6.8 million paid in 2021, for a net of $30.405 million instead. $39.852 million (his previously scheduled cap number) minus his new $30.405 million cap number for 2022 provides $9.45 million in savings in 2022. Total cap savings would be $39.35 million over the two seasons.
The Packers could still trade Rodgers in 2022 when it would be more advantageous for the team since there should be more suitors. His dead money would be $31.556 million ($14.352 million times two plus the $2.852 million proration in his final year on this contract) which would produce a negative cap savings of $1.15 million ($31.556 - $30.405 million). That would reduce total cap savings over the two seasons from the $39.35 million (above) to $38.25 million.

 

[5teamparlay]

Pack go to 9-3


It was an impressive win for the Packers, especially considering reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers has been dealing with what has been described as a painful toe injury. The Green and Gold improved to 9-3 on the season with Sunday's win to take a commanding lead in the NFC North.

Notable Stats

Aaron Rodgers, QB, GB: 28/45 for 307 YDS, 2 TD and 1 CAR for 1 YD, 1 TD

 

[michael777]

Jeopardy awaits

 

[RudyRuetigger]

might go 1 year in Pittsburgh

 

[Avocado33]

Table is being set up nicely for Rodgers to win a Super Bowl!

Hope he doesn't blow it again!

 

[Michelangelo]

Table is being set up nicely for Rodgers to win a Super Bowl!

Hope he doesn't blow it again!

He's got to go through Arizona, the team noone understands or believes in.

 

[Willie99]

I'll take him

not anymore, too late